The Bendix G-15 was conspicuously left out, although I think
it meets all the requirements. it was the size of a
refrigerator,
weighed 800 Lbs, had several K of drum memory (not "RAM")
had an IBM executive typewriter for I/O, and ran a version
of Algol.
Jon
What about the Bendix G15? Introduced in 1953. Definitely fits the criteria outlined in the article.
Not that I agree with the article..like many others here feel, the term `first` in a historical context is too fraught with issues of definition.
Rick Bensene
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Guzis [cclist at sydex.com]
Received: Friday, 24 Jan 2014, 9:17AM
To: General at bensene.com [General at bensene.com]; Discussion at bensene.com:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts [cctalk at classiccmp.org]
Subject: Re: Who built the first minicomputers?
I'm surprised that the Packard-Bell PB250 wasn't considered. It could
run from a standard US lighting circuit. Circa (IIRC) 1959. Not a drum
machine, but used a recirculating magnetostrictive memory.
It also seems that there may have been a few military computers that
would satisfy your criteria.
As Will has stated "first" is a very dangerous word and "minicomputer"
is, in fact, a term of art. Like pornography, it's what it is because
someone says so.
--Chuck
Found via Hack-a-Day just now...
https://github.com/davecheney/avr11
It apparently can handle booting v6 UNIX on an emulated RK05 at about
10% the speed of real hardware. It requires a custom sheild to add a
couple of 8-pin SPI RAM chips. Directions for that are said to be
coming soon.
-ethan
I've got a PDP-8A with RK05's and a TC08/TU56.
I've verified the serial port is okay (via checkser), loaded focal with the
rim loader and run both read and write tests on a RK05 pack.
I've done a restrk05 with both
diagpack2.rk05<http://www.pdp8online.com/pdp8cgi/os8_html?act=dir;fn=images/os8/diagpack2.…>
and haygood-osv3r.rk05<http://www.pdp8online.com/pdp8cgi/os8_html?act=dir;fn=images/os8/haygood%2D…>.
It seems to progress ok, counting up to the last cylinder and leaving the
AC equal to 0 when done. However when I execute the two word bootstrap for
the RK8E I hear the drive seek once and then stop at location 0031.
I've also tried a restore with the TC08 but it never even gets to the point
that the drive gets selected (the SR is 0 on entry). However if I punch in
the TC08 bootstrap unit 0 does a rewind, then goes forward (with lots of
das blinken lights), goes past quite a few blocks and then halts (this is
on a tape that claims to have OS8 on it).
The RK05 is most frustrating since it passes the rw tests (9 passes) but
doesn't boot.
I guess I'm going to be loading in some maindecs unless someone out there
has any other ideas.
Thanks,
Marc
Dear sirs,
I'm looking for education, since I know nothing about S-100
I got some boards from an Alcon surgical laser, and they SEEMS TO BE
clearly S-100-compatible. The CPU board uses an 8085, with ROM mapped from
$1000 on. BIN avaiable upon request.
Since I'm a complete n00b about S-100 systems, how can I positively
identify this board as a S-100 compatible board, and what are the minimal
connections I can use for, at least, make it tick?
(now I understand the need to learn more about CPU emulators and how to
integrate "blocks" of code to emulate an unknown computer easily)
Thanks
Alexandre Souza
Correction...the G15 was introduced in 1956.
Rick Bensene
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Bensene [rickb at bensene.com]
Received: Friday, 24 Jan 2014, 10:18AM
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org [cctalk at classiccmp.org]
Subject: RE: Who built the first minicomputers?
What about the Bendix G15? Introduced in 1953. Definitely fits the criteria outlined in the article.
Not that I agree with the article..like many others here feel, the term `first` in a historical context is too fraught with issues of definition.
Rick Bensene
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Guzis [cclist at sydex.com]
Received: Friday, 24 Jan 2014, 9:17AM
To: General at bensene.com [General at bensene.com]; Discussion at bensene.com:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts [cctalk at classiccmp.org]
Subject: Re: Who built the first minicomputers?
I'm surprised that the Packard-Bell PB250 wasn't considered. It could
run from a standard US lighting circuit. Circa (IIRC) 1959. Not a drum
machine, but used a recirculating magnetostrictive memory.
It also seems that there may have been a few military computers that
would satisfy your criteria.
As Will has stated "first" is a very dangerous word and "minicomputer"
is, in fact, a term of art. Like pornography, it's what it is because
someone says so.
--Chuck
http://www.ebay.com/itm/380684482851
the seller is 'special'
he had useless pictures, updated them at my request, then realized that there was a market for
just the keyboards, pulled them off and now is selling them separately for $50
I'm sorry I even asked
Anyway, if someone else is looking for one for $150, here's your chance.
On Jan 20, 2014 2:07 PM, "Holm Tiffe" <holm at freibergnet.de> wrote:
> Next interesting thing are 10 pcs. of NS405-B18N, a sticker says that
that
> are display processors, someone knows where tehy where used in?
To a first approximation, nowhere. Ciarcia used it in the TERM-MITE
construction article in the Feb. 1984 issue of BYTE, reprinted in
_Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar, Vol. 7_.
There's also an NS455 variant, and alternate part numbers (e.g. NS32045).
They have an enchanced 8048 core and a text-oriented CRT controller.
Does anyone here know where I could find a "generic" monitor ROM that
could be tweaked for the target system? I'm looking for something that
would fit in a 4K EPROM.
tnx.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies.
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
The forums have a maintenance announcement up last time i checked an hour or so ago so hopefully some planned maintenance is going on. It didnt specify any eta but they're (or Erik) usually pretty quick to get things up.