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> From: Jerome H. Fine
> I would point out that one reason that memory may have stayed with 2 **
> 30 is that memory is usually produced and sold in multiples of 2 ** 30
> these days
Main memory has pretty much _always_ been sold in blocks that were exact
powers of two, for obvious reasons (at least, powers of two of the word size
of the machine in question)...
(Although occasionally, back when, one used to see things that were 1.5 times
a power of two, e.g. on a 16-bit machine, 12KB, 96KB, etc - physical and cost
constraints tended to produce those. I don't recall the last time I saw
something that wasn't a power of two - probably those 96KB jobs.)
With disk drives, on the other hand, one can get all sorts of arbitrary sizes,
produced by the number of cylinders, numbers of heads, etc, etc.
Noel
Anyone have any documentation on the RGS 008A? This is an early (1975)
microcomputer kit based on the 8008, and was reviewed in the first issue of
BYTE. Other than that article, there's not much information out there;
anyone happen to have the manuals (or anything else) and be willing to scan
them?
Thanks,
Josh
PS: When buying replacement chips, since many are NOS, which manufacturers
should be avoided, and which are good? I recall there was some discussion on
here a while back about the topic of which vendors seemed to have the most
problems with chips failing, but I can't find it (and a bit of Google
searching couldn't turn up anything on the topic - all my searches turned up
too much other stuff).
And should I always install the replacements in sockets, or is it OK to just
go ahead and solder them straight in? (The socket obviously doesn't cost
much, and I'm less likely to damage the chip installing it like that, and of
course if I get it in and it's U/S, it's easy to swap out from a socket, but
I'm wondering if the use of a socket has any downside, electrically.)
Again, thanks for any advice (and I won't be surprised if the last starts
the usual debate... :-)
Noel
Classic Computer Fans,
I made it through an i5 OS install on my 9406-270 plus installed various
products. I haven't done much past that other than switching the QCTLSBSD
system value from QBASE to QCTL and performing an IPL. I'm now able to
perform an unattended IPL and get from power on to a sign-on screen in just
under nine minutes.
Only one drive came up to choose from during the install process so
everything is installed on it. A WRKDSKSTS shows drive 1 at 33% and drive 0
unused. Is it possible to add drive 0 to the system at this point?
I'm not sure where to go from here. Some of the things I can think of that
I'm sure need to be done at some point:
- Learn how to apply PTFs
- Create some user profiles
- Configure and start TCP/IP
- Explore backup options in case I have to reinstall or restore every 69
days. I'd be surprised if the internal tape drive is functional.
- Learn all kinds of things I haven't even heard of yet
And I'm sure the list goes on and on. I'm open to suggestions.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fred Cisin [mailto:cisin at xenosoft.com]
>Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:40 PM
>To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>Subject: Re: Weekly Classic Computer Trivia Question (20141205)
>>On Sat, 6 Dec 2014, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> I should actually do my math before commenting. :-) It just happens,
>> that by a funny accident, 1440*1024 is actually 1,474,560.
>>
>> But still. The actual size of the floppy wasn't decided because you
>> pulled out 1440*1024, but because of the format of the darn thing.
>> 1.44MB is just the closest "nice" number you can come up with after
>> the fact as a way to talk about the capacity of the thing.
>>
>> It is not an exact number, but they seldom are, when we talk about
>> storage. People like to round things off, to make it easier to talk
about.
>It is NOT a "nice" number.
>Honest numbers would be either 1.47 or 1.4 There is no legitimate way to
come up with 1.44 unless you cheat and MIX powers of 10 and powers of 2.
__________________
It comes from a double capacity 720 KB FDD - which in this case are actually
KiB and not kB
However, in an incredible bit of marketing stupidity it was labeled 1.44 MB,
since 2*720 KB/1000 = 1.44 MB
Tom
Just checking a PSU in a MicroVAX 3100 Model 80. I am measuring about 10mV
ripple on the 5V supply and 20mV ripple on the 12V supply. Does that seem
reasonable?
I am not sure if it is a scope artefact, but there appear to be large spikes
at the top and bottom of each sawtooth. The machine appears to partially
work, it seems to be getting some errors during the memory test, but I don't
know if that is the spikes I am seeing or just a bad component somewhere.
Regards
Rob
>> From: Jon Elson
>> The 2V level sounds like maybe NO chip is driving that node. A shorted
>> output (or input) would likely pull one way or the other, 2V is about
>> the resting point of a TTL input.
> The way the two output data laches are wired, the output control on one
> is wired with the negation of the output control on the other, so one
> or the other ought to be trying to drive the line at all times. So
> perhaps the one that _should_ be driving the line normally is the bad
> one, then
After thinking about this tip for a few minutes, it dawned on me that there's
a simple way to see if the data latch is bad: read the CSR! That will try and
drive that line from the other latch. So I did, and ... I can read 0 from
that bit in the CSR! So it's the data latch that's bad.
Thanks for the tip!
Noel
> From: Jon Elson
>> the anomalous voltage I see (2V) is after the output (i.e. to the
>> QBUS) data latches, but before the bus transceiver
> Output from the memory chips? Well, then, you may have to replace them
> all, as one chip may be jamming the bus.
No, "after the output .. data latches", which are between the memory chips
and the bus transceiver.
> Do any of the affected driver chips run hotter than the others? That's
> the "finger test", you replace any anomalously hot chips first
That's a useful idea, thanks, I'll try that.
> The 2V level sounds like maybe NO chip is driving that node. A shorted
> output (or input) would likely pull one way or the other, 2V is about
> the resting point of a TTL input.
Ah, more useful info. The way the two output data laches are wired, the
output control on one is wired with the negation of the output control on the
other, so one or the other ought to be trying to drive the line at all times.
So perhaps the one that _should_ be driving the line normally is the bad one,
then (since it's clearly not...) Thanks for the tip!
Noel