>WOW 1's and O's - you where lucky! I had to use l's and O's.
>Of course I cheated and wrote out all my code long hand - that was when
>I was back in Egypt. I am sure you've seen some of my code 8-)
>
You had 1's AND 0's? Back in my day, we only had 0's, and we liked it. I
tried to get my parents to buy me some 1's, but they were just too much.
Actually, I am 28, and learned to program in basic. I am just now taking
the time to learn assembler on my atari 800. I have wanted to learn for the
last 14 years, but I think that some of the latter experience that I have
gotten has made it to where I think I can tackle assembly language. In the
"old fart" category, I just helped my next door neighbor get his first
computer, a classic of course, and he is in his early 60's. He's pretty
excited, and so am I.
While we are on the subject of disks, I got a bag of 5 1/4" disks from a
friend, and they are mostly DSHD. I have been able to format most of them,
but there are a select few that my Atari SSSD drive will not format. Do you
think that I could format them with a different machine, or pass them under
a magnet and get them to where my atari could format them? I hate to throw
them away, and I'm not that technical when it comes to magnetic properties
and such.
Isaac Davis
idavis(a)comland.com
indavis(a)juno.com
Well, the weekend has just started, and I've made yet another haul of
program tapes for the Timex-Sinclair, this time mostly business applications.
This brings the total number of original T/S-1000 and ZX-81 tapes to 12, with
a total of 20 original tapes of all types! Some of them will run on the 2k
machine, while most require the 16k expansion.
Jeff jeffh(a)eleventh.com
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Amiga 1000, Atari 800, 800XL, and Mega-ST/2, Commodore C-128,
C128D, Plus/4 and VIC-20, IBM 5155, Kaypro 2X, Osbourne Executive
Radofin Aquarius, Sinclair ZX-81, TI-99/4A, Timex-Sinclair 1000,
TRS-80 Color Computer-3 and Model 4, plus Atari Superpong and
2600VCS game consoles.
| What - you had an assembler? I have to toggle in ones and
| zeroes. Before that we didn't even have zeroes and I had
| to use the letter 'O'.
Y'know, that's not far from the truth. I was looking at some of my old
Teletype listings the other day and realized it had a line through the O
instead of through the 0, therefore it really did look like we were
using O's for zeroes!
| Tim. (selling his last of seven IMSAI's to a museum next week...)
Whew, I guess I just got under the wire there! See ya Sunday...
Kai
Just browsing through the newsgroup, and if anyone lives in or around
Cambridge, MA. Here's a good deal for the weekend. Hope this helps
someone. I really wished I lived there. I wonder if I could drive there
>from Austin, TX and make it in time. Oh well, maybe next time.
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Subject: Atari 800 System/Software Giveaway at MIT
From: remler(a)ll.mit.edu (Rick Ferranti)
Date: 1997/04/18
Message-Id: <remler-1804970826170001(a)macferranti.atc.ll.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
I have a complete Atari 800 system -- the 800 with 48K RAM, 810 disk
drive, 1020 printer/plotter, P:R: Connection serial interface, joysticks,
paddle controllers, cables, power supplies, and all original
documentation. With this system comes many business programs and zillions
of games, many still in their original boxes with documentation. Plus
many indexed reference articles from the old 8-bit Atari magazines. The
system is in excellent, working condition.
I'm "selling" the package at the MIT Radio/Computer flea market on Sunday,
April 20th, corner of Albany and Main Streets in Cambridge, MA. Doors
open at 9:OO a.m. If you can tell me a good story on what you'd use this
thing for, it's yours for the taking! Look for a beige '92 Camry.
-- Rick
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With the diversity of people in this maillist, a good story should be pretty
easy to come by. If anyone gets it, be sure and let us know "the story".
Isaac Davis
idavis(a)comland.com
indavis(a)juno.com
On 22-Apr-97, classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu wrote:
>I'll take the 1000. I have a 68000 chip sitting around from my old Amiga and
>the drives are pretty easy to find. If it's still available let me know what
>the shipping is.
Lou,
Just email me your address, and I'll figure out what the postage will be.
Jeff jeffh(a)eleventh.com
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Amiga 1000, Atari 800, 800XL, and Mega-ST/2, Commodore C-128,
C128D, Plus/4 and VIC-20, IBM 5155, Kaypro 2X, Osbourne Executive
Radofin Aquarius, Sinclair ZX-81, TI-99/4A, Timex-Sinclair 1000,
TRS-80 Color Computer-3 and Model 4, plus Atari Superpong and
2600VCS game consoles.
| - Has the copy protection on original system disks and program
disks ever
| been cracked? (for those that don't know, the first time an
original
| disk is used in a Lisa, it apparantly stamps the disk with its
serial
| number, preventing other Lisae from using it).
You need to find someone with an un-installed set of Lisa diskettes and
copy them with an Option Board.
Kai
At 10:18 PM 4/17/97 -0800, you wrote:
>> While we are on the subject of disks, I got a bag of 5 1/4" disks from a
>> friend, and they are mostly DSHD. I have been able to format most of them,
>> but there are a select few that my Atari SSSD drive will not format.
>
>Yeah, well, I wouldn't trust the HD ones you did manage to format.
>It just isn't worth the risk when double-density floppies are
>still readily available.
>
>Are people finding it hard to get double-density floppies? I have
>access to several thousand new-sealed-in-boxes up here. If you've
>been unable to find any, let me know and I'll ship ship out some
>boxes.
>
>Tim. (shoppa(a)triumf.ca)
>
>
I will try to find some locally. I definitely don't need more than a couple
hundred, if that many. I have some old work of mine that I would hate to
loose. I have had these disks since the early 80's, and they all seem to be
in perfect condition, but you never know when they will go bad.
Anyone have any suggestions, of places to go to get boxed SD or DD floppies
in bulk? I will start looking around, and if I find a place, I will post it.
Thanks for the advice about the HD floppies being different than DD or SD.
I will definitely reserve those for scratch disks. That was exactly the
answer I was looking for. Thanks for the help.
Isaac Davis
idavis(a)comland.com
indavis(a)juno.com
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 20:02:43 -0800, Mr Shoppa graced us with
these words of wisdom:
> What - you had an assembler? I have to toggle in ones and
> zeroes. Before that we didn't even have zeroes and I had
> to use the letter 'O'.
Ah, good lad! I understand that in some parts of the world the use
of the numeral "0" (zero) is still regarded as heresy. You may have
saved your life that way.
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| Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin) | West Boylston |
| Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast | Massachusetts, USA |
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On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:23:30 -0400, this arrived on the list from
the esteemed Mr. Allen Underdown:
> In the olden days of magnetic floppy media, there was a sector hole
> FOR EVERY SECTOR located around the hub of the floppy.
All very well and good, but there's that one extra you forgot
about. ;-)
Yes, hard-sectored disks _do_ have a hole to denote the beginning
of each sector, but to indicate the beginning of a _track_ they use
two adjacent holes. In soft-sectored disks, the single hole serves
to signal the beginning-of-track; the individual sectors are defined
via headers recorded during the format operation.
> God I love reading this list!
With all due respects to Mr. Mel Brooks: "Ditto!"
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| Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin) | West Boylston |
| Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast | Massachusetts, USA |
| mailto:carl.friend@stoneweb.com | |
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