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by scott＠saskatoon.com

> > How about Chuck Peddle? > > Who? (please explain!) Chuck Peddle, while working at Motorola, was on the design team for the 6800. He and a number of other engineers on the team had a number of enhancements that they wanted to make to the chip, but the higher-ups wouldn't let them. They left Motorola to form MOS Technology, and developed the 6502 line of CPUS. When Commodore decided to get into the Personal Computer market, they bought MOS. One theory is that they primarily wanted Peddle. Chuck went on to design the early Commodore machines. (I'm not sure how involved he was in the Kim-1, but he almost singlehandedly designed the first PETs.) This is mostly off the top of my head. If I made any glaring errors (or minor ones, for that matter), please let me know. (If you do an Alta-vista search for +commodore +"chuck peddle" you will get around 40 pages with info on him.) > Sam ttfn srw ------------------------------------------------------------ Walde Techonology http://scott.cprompt.sk.ca Box 7284 finger: scott(a)cprompt.sk.ca Saskatoon, SK S7K 4J2 email: scott(a)cprompt.sk.ca CANADA email: walde(a)dlcwest.com -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s:+>: a- C++++$ UL++++$ !P L++ E- W+++$ N+ o? K? w$ O- M-- V PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP->++ t+ 5 X+ !R tv- b+ DI++++ D+ G e* h r++ y- ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

28 years, 6 months

TI 99 & a good weekend

by BigLouS＠aol.com

I managed to pick up a beige, all plastic TI 99/A this weekend and if I remember prior posts this is an uncommon version of this machine. I also saw what looked like the standard black and chrome machine except that it had no chrome at all. Did TI ever make such a machine or is it a standard machine that was mutilated by some brute? I also picked up a Commodore SX64 and a Franklin Ace 1000 (a sentimental favorite of mine) as well as a CoCo floppy drive and interface cartridge. It was a great weekend. Lou

28 years, 6 months

Sharp MZ-800

by walgen＠do.isst.fhg.de

-----Original Message----- From: Krzysztof Strzecha [SMTP:strzecha@kis.p.lodz.pl] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 1997 12:29 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Sharp MZ-800 >Hi all ! > > I recently bought SHARP MZ-800 with no documentation, either programs etc. > Could anyone help me find any information & programs for it ? I have a MZ-800 with 2x5.25"-Disk, manual and service-docs. I also have a working boot-disk. Tell me what you need ... You can also contact: Nobuaki Ohishi at GFB00551(a)niftyserve.or.jp he knows everything about MZs. There are some WWW-pages at http://may.csse.muroran-it.ac.jp/~ogawa/MZMuseum/

28 years, 6 months

Sharp MZ-800

by strzecha＠kis.p.lodz.pl

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28 years, 6 months

PET to S100 bus interface

by ds_spenc＠alcor.concordia.ca

I'd just like to make an update for all who may be interested in that potential PET to S100 bus device that I had sitting in storage. I pulled it out tonight instead of studying for exams, and it is indeed what was suspected. The "motherboard" (if that is the correct term) is a Vector Graphic Inc. S100 bus board. The RAM board that was being used for the PET, is a Vector Graphic Inc. 16K Static RAM board with a date of 1977 on it. The power supply says "KIMSI-PLUS Power Supply" on the back, 1977 from Forethought Products. This is all very wild, because I had no idea there was S100 stuff in this house. Anyway, the really interesting piece of circuitry is the PET to S100 interface board. It's the same size as the RAM board, and of course plugs into the S100 bus. At the top of the board is a 50-pin connector that plugs into a cable, that in turn plugs into the side memory expansion connector on the PET 2001. In white lettering, it says .----------. |_| | | |_|| | | |_| | || (<-- my cheezy attempt at duplicating the company .----------' logo with ASCII, it's HUH surrounded by a question .ELECTRONICS mark.) S100 MPA and etched into the board it says "COPYRIGHT 1978 BY HUH" and "S100 MPA REV A". The board isn't very heavily populated, compared to the RAM board, and most of the chips are 74LSxx chips. Anyone out there know more than I do about this thing? Doug Spence ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca

28 years, 6 months

by scott＠saskatoon.com

> *** Preliminary Announcement *** > > First Annual Classic Computer Collector Conference Sounds like fun. > Classic Computer Pioneer - every year an > Nominees: Gary Kildall, creator of > CP/M; Steve Wozniak; ??? How about Chuck Peddle? ------------------------------------------------------------ Walde Techonology http://scott.cprompt.sk.ca Box 7284 finger: scott(a)cprompt.sk.ca Saskatoon, SK S7K 4J2 email: scott(a)cprompt.sk.ca CANADA email: walde(a)dlcwest.com -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s:+>: a- C++++$ UL++++$ !P L++ E- W+++$ N+ o? K? w$ O- M-- V PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP->++ t+ 5 X+ !R tv- b+ DI++++ D+ G e* h r++ y- ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

28 years, 6 months

BBSes on old hardware and SuperVIC

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

| ---------- | From: Doug Spence[SMTP:ds_spenc@alcor.concordia.ca] | Actually, I also want to build a kind of "SuperVIC" machine. I want it to | ba a luggable like my TeleVideo or Kaypro II Um, isn't that a Commodore SX-64? Kai

28 years, 6 months

emulator board help

by zmerch＠northernway.net

Whilst in a self-induced trance, hellige happened to blather: >On 28-Apr-97, classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu wrote: > >>I seem to recall that Definicon made coprocessor boards (68000 series, and >>maybe 32016 series as well) for PC's. You rean special language compilers >>on the PC that converted your high-level source into machine code for the >>68000 or whatever, and ran it on the coprocessor board > > What would be the point in doing this though, if the board didn't emulate a >specific 68000 series computer? Jeff, It's way past my bedtime, but I just had to comment on this post... Believe it or not, the board doesn't have to emulate a specific 68K computer... it *is* a specific 68K computer! The board quite possibly was a system that would just use the PeeCee's hard/floppy/parallel/serial (etc.) ports and would run OS-9/68K or another viable 68K operating system of the day (Xenix?). This in itself is not new... shortly after the IBM-PC came out there was a 68000 board for it that ran OS-9. Remember, the 68K was first, and by then already had several super-powerful (compared to MS-Dog) OS's available for the platform. I have a review of one in an old copy of Byte laying around somewhere around here. BTW, put away the asbestos... it's not a flame! I'm just tired (& cranky) and don't have a bad case of run-on fingers like usual! See ya, "Merch" -- Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed, Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* zmerch(a)northernway.net | be your first career choice.

28 years, 6 months

Software database for you collector-types

by marcw＠lightside.com

Howdy, I just thought of something. Are any of you using a database to catalogue what software you use/have for these old machines? I've got a database that came on a Big Blue Disk back around '88 called Software Indexer. It's small and all but has some nice features including cascading menus with a lot of pre-defined categories. These can be edited/deleted/added to. There's not much data entry because of the menus/pick-lists. Once you type in the name of the program everything else is a matter of choosing what's there except for the comments field. Here's examples that may interest you (jeez I sound like I'm spamming a new product here). Example/sample of menu selections: System Macintosh MFS (Old format) HFS (Current format) Lisa Office System Apple II Series Apple ProDOS 8 Apple ProDOS 16 Apple DOS 3.3 Apple DOS 3.2 Apple CP/M Apple Pascal Apple GEOS Apple /// (SOS) CP/M CP/M-80 CP/M-86 CP/M-68K Orphan Machines Timex/Sinclair TI 99/4 TI Professional Osborne Exidy Sorcerer CompuColor 2 SOL-20 Ohio Scientific Altair Cromemco Mainframes DecSystem-10/PDP-10 DecSystem-20 RSTS Multics Minicomputers IBM System 34/36 DEC VAX (VMS) PDP-11 Video Game Systems Atari VCS (2600) Atari 5200 Atari 7800 ColecoVision Magnavox Odyssey 2 Sega Master System (more) Medium 5.25" floppy Double-density High-density Single-sided "Flippy" 8" floppy "Twiggy" (old Lisa) And all the other stuff. Atari's, Amiga's, Commodore's, Intel x86, etc. Other categories/menus are Distribution & Category. All customizable 'til you run out of menu space (easy to do). Anyhind, if anyone's interested I can zip it up and send it to whoever's interested. It is/was shareware. I used to get Big Blue Disk but don't remember if I got this from there or from a BBS way back when. Marc -- >> ANIME SENSHI << Marc D. Williams marcw(a)lightside.com (finger at: marcw(a)mail.lightside.com) marc.williams(a)mb.fidonet.org http://www.agate.net/~tvdog/internet.html

28 years, 6 months

Osborne 1 prices (was: On Generations of People and Computers )

by BigLouS＠aol.com

> A guy at my > work is supposed to give me his, which he says is a ][, but he's not > always all there, so it could just be a ][+. But I would say a ][ is > probably worth about $100 with some accessories, like a disk drive and > monitor and the language card. I just swapped a bare II/E for a Bare II. Going price for a bare IIE is about $20 on the Apple newsgroups. Apple II's don't seem to be valued very much in the Apple II newsgroup or for sale group. Lou

28 years, 6 months

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