At 06:33 PM 5/1/97 -0700, you wrote:
> | >- Add: NorthStar model with built-in monitor (forget the
>model, Tim
> | >Shoppa has one)
>
> | The NorthStar "Advantage" (I have one too)
>
>Yeah, come to think of it, the one Tim has that I was thinking of was
>actually a similar IMSAI with built-in monitor. The name was something
>like "DPC-1"
Well... letters and numbers anyway... The IMSAI VDP-80. (sold and
serviced those too!)
-jim
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Whilst in a self-induced trance, Tim Shoppa happened to blather:
>Well, when it comes down to it, vanilla CP/M never had
>FORMAT. Didn't matter a whole lot on vanilla systems, as
>8" floppies always come preformatted.
Yes, but what about *chocolate* CP/M? Huh? How about that, Mr. Smart-Guy???
Everybody knows that chocolate is better than vanilla!!! ;^>
I'm just joking... still working & it's been a long night!
Anyone here have any experience with Unix NewsServer Daemons? That be me
problem tonite, matey!
See ya,
"Merch"
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Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should *not*
zmerch(a)northernway.net | be your first career choice.
In a message dated 97-04-30 03:16:50 EDT,idavis(a)comland.com (Isaac Davis)
writes:
> there is also a product called ape which is at
http://www.nacs.net/~classics which allows you to connect your atari to a
pc. They also have schematics <snip>.
I use ape with my setup and it has worked just fine. I download Atari
software to my PC and Ape does the rest. The cable is fairly easy to build if
you have some soldering experience.
Lou
| >- Add: MITS Altair 680, 68000, 1976
| Ummm... no. 6800 mpu (not 68000)
Typo... thanks
| >- Add: NorthStar model with built-in monitor (forget the
model, Tim
| >Shoppa has one)
| The NorthStar "Advantage" (I have one too)
Yeah, come to think of it, the one Tim has that I was thinking of was
actually a similar IMSAI with built-in monitor. The name was something
like "DPC-1"
| >- Change: NorthStar Horizons primarily ran NSDOS
| Interesting... Many I worked with ran OASIS. B^}
I guess it would have been clearer to say "NorthStar Horizons shipped
with NSDOS". I'm sure most of them "primarily ran" CP/M after the
owners realized how obscure and limiting NSDOS was ("cd" to Copy Disk?
Gee, a DOS user would never type that by accident!)
Kai
> >Yeah, but then people realized a lot of computer geeks make a lot of
> >money, and they stopped laughing at them.
>
> We do? Why wasn't I told????
>
>
> -Matt Pritchard
>
> ----------
> From: Scott Walde[SMTP:scott@saskatoon.com]
>
| > Atari ST1024?
| Getting warmer...
Hmm, must be a 520.
| BIG HINT... it's the first 386 built by the company
| that, at the time was one of the biggest clone manufacturers
around.
| There are plenty other (non-clone) machines by the same
company in
| this picture.
Aha - Tandy 4000, right?
| There are four machines barely exposed in the lower right
corner,
| that I don't expect anyone to ID.
I'm going out on a limb here... under the PCjr, an IBM PC? And under
the Model III... would you have another Model III? Probably not... is
it a Model IV? There's another Atari ST box, and something on its side
by the Model III that could be a CoCo 1.
| There are, however, two very
| distinct original boxes. One under the atari, and one under
the
| middle commodore machine.
Under the Atari, an Amiga 500. The box under the PET is an AST PC clone
box... Premium 286?
In case you missed it, my basement can be viewed at:
http://scott.cprompt.sk.ca/pics/basement.jpg
or if you have a crappy old browser that doesn't send "Host:" in the
request:
http://www.cprompt.sk.ca/scott/pics/basement.jpg
I can identify 20 machines (18 unique) in this picture. (Some are
in boxes, and of course, I have the high-resolution version by
walking around the corner and down the stairs... but anyway...)
How many can you identify? For bonus marks if you can identify any
peripherals. Email your answers to me at:
scott(a)saskatoon.com
ttfn
srw
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> From: Sam Ismail[SMTP:dastar@crl.com]
> Starting from the very back, that is either a Commodore 128, Amiga 500
> or
> some newer Atari.
>
Atari ST, you can tell by the monitor. The Amiga 500 is in the box.
> The moving on to the far end of the table: Apple ][+
>
Or II
> Apple //e
>
Very probable given the monitor
> Commodore Pet
>
CBM 2001 specifically
> Commodore CBM Professional Business Computer
>
Either a CBM 2001 full size keyboard or a 4000 series.
> Commodore PET 2001
>
Probably an 8000 series
> Macintosh (128? 512?)
>
Impossible to tell the difference visually without looking at the back
Plus, the two TRS-80 model I's with expansion interfaces on top of the
first two PETs, and some kind of probable microprocessor trainer to the
left of the Altair.
Kai
>
> Atari ST1024?
Getting warmer...
> >The moving on to the far end of the table: Apple ][+,
> >Apple //e, Altair 680, Commodore Pet, Commodore CBM Professional Business
> >Computer, Commodore PET 2001, Macintosh (128? 512?), IBM PCjr. Then
> >below the table: TRS-80 Model III and an Atari box.
You'll have to be more careful with the Commodore machines. (You
should be able to be more accurate, even without seeing the
nameplate.)
> You forgot the two dual Commodore PET disk drive units, and the four TRS-80
> single mini-disk units holding up the scope...
It's pretty hard to tell the models of drives, they're a 2040 and a
8250.
> >Oh, and an oscilliscope (my guess is Tektronix).
>
> Heathkit? (or an older single channel Tek)
There's nothing really classic about the scope. It's a two channel
20Mhz Iwatsu. (No, I've never heard of them before either.)
> ...and the PCjr has the later model keyboard... No chicklets???
No, and the monitor doesn't vertical lock. You have to keep playing
with the hold knob :-(
> ...and one on its side near the left lower third of the pic that I can't
> ID... (bad angle)
I've never really considered that one a part of my collection,
although I think it now officially qualifies for this list. (i.e. 10
years old.) BIG HINT... it's the first 386 built by the company
that, at the time was one of the biggest clone manufacturers around.
There are plenty other (non-clone) machines by the same company in
this picture.
There are four machines barely exposed in the lower right corner,
that I don't expect anyone to ID. There are, however, two very
distinct original boxes. One under the atari, and one under the
middle commodore machine. There's also all the stuff sitting on top
of the commodore machines. Super bonus marks to anyone who can ID
the thing on top of the scope. (No, it's not really computer related.)
ttfn
srw
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