I am intrested in the macs, the 128 & 512. How much? I do have a few dos
3.3 master disks for the II series (the origional apple disks!).
Intrested? I'll try to dig them out!
Josh M. Nutzman
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> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 10:04:36 -0700
> From: Kai Kaltenbach <kaikal(a)MICROSOFT.com>
> Almost forgot - I also picked up an Apricot F2. For those in the
> US, this is one bizarre machine. It's only about 7" wide, 4" tall
[...]
>
> Any additional information -- and pointers to a boot disk --
> appreciated!
If you (or anybody else) want, I can copy your message into the
Fidonet "APRICOT" support echo. There aren't all that many messages
in there at the moment, but I am sure that there are still folk with
working Apricot machines, that would be glad to help.
Let me know, and I'll post your messages in there for you, and
forward replies either to this list, or back to you personally.
Best wishes,
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In a message dated 97-05-27 23:56:45 EDT, you write:
> Should I take one of the video cards out? Are they supposed to BOTH be in
> there?
If when you boot the machine it comes up with Apple IIe then you have an
enhanced IIE. If it says Apple II then you have an unenhanced IIe. Part of
the enhancement upgrade involved replacing roms on the motherboard so perhaps
the upgrade was done improperly (unlikely). Pulling cards is the best way to
isolate the problem. First pull the videx card. If that doesn't solve the
problem then pull the AE card, the mouse card and finally the printer card.
If your still having problems then you may want to replace the Zip chip with
a stock 65C02 (an enhanced IIe uses a 65C02 rather than a 6502). If you still
have problems then you may want to try a different controller card or just
throw the thing out the window. :-)
Lou
Whilst in a self-induced trance, Charles P. Hobbs happened to blather:
>Hey, DOS *is* CP/M as far as I'm concerned (look how long it took to
>kick that 8.3 filename habit! :-)
It is not easy to calculate how long it took for them to kick the habit, as
the habit has not yet been kicked... think of it as still being on the
nicotine patch. The long filenames of Win95 are only a *bunch* of 8.3
filename placeholders conveniently disguised to the end user.
Wanna waste a whole weekend over nothing? Run MS-DOS 6.22's scandisk/defrag
on a Win95 volume and see how long it takes you to straighten that mess
out... it's easier to reformat and reinstall.
HTH,
"Merch"
--
Roger Merchberger | If at first you don't succeed,
Programmer, NorthernWay | nuclear warhead disarmament should *not*
zmerch(a)northernway.net | be your first career choice.
If you're looking for an Atari you might want to talk to this
guy.
Bill
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Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 18:29:18 -0700
From: Steve <stevemr2(a)televar.com>
To: bill(a)booster.bothell.washington.edu
Subject: Atari 800 XL
Hi Bill
I have an Atari 800 XL along with several cartridges, tapes with programs and the 1010
player. This machine is like new as I take care of my equipment. I haven't used it for
several years and have been thinking about selling everything. Even back then I saw how
computers were advancing and I decided not to try to keep up. Last year I finally decided
to buy a new computer. Quantex with P133, 2.1 gig HD, etc. I was into the computer thing
in the late 50's early 60's when still a kid.
If you know of anyone who would be interested in this equipment, which is in cherry
condition and all power supplies, cables etc come with it along with several programs on
tape (Zaxxon, Chess, Slot Machine, Sky Chart, E-Factor and LOTS more), several carts
(Missile Command, Donkey Kong, Defenders...and more).
Thanks....................Steve
From: Steve Hagensicker <---<----->---> stevemr2(a)televar.com
Homepage: Netsurfer Central <-----> http://www.televar.com/~stevemr2/
Almost forgot - I also picked up an Apricot F2. For those in the US,
this is one bizarre machine. It's only about 7" wide, 4" tall and 16"
deep. It has a wireless infrared keyboard and wireless hand-held
trackball!
I never knew these were sold in the United States. It's marked 60Hz so
it's not an import. About all I know about it is from a couple of web
references -- 1985, 8086 CPU, 512K RAM, dual 720K drives, ran a modified
OEM version of MS-DOS.
Any additional information -- and pointers to a boot disk --
appreciated!
thanks
Kai
> ----------
> From: Kai Kaltenbach
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 1997 9:40 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Another weekend haul story
>
> Well, thanks to a mobile GPS, I managed to visit 30 thrifts in one day
> this weekend, and ended up with:
>
> - Atari 400
> - IBM Portable PC 5155
> - Two more Osborne 1's (for trade)
> - An Indus GT floppy drive for Atari 8bit (this is the best Atari 8bit
> drive ever made!)
> - Apple Disk II new in box
> - Another TRS-80 Model I (system unit only)
> - Atari 1040ST and SC124 mono monitor (floppy wasn't working but I
> fixed
> it--I think)
> - Another Mac 128 (with bad floppy, I have the parts to fix)
> - Pile of diskettes for the TRS-80 Model 4/4P, including original
> TRSDOS, SCRIPSIT, ZORK I, etc.
> - Manuals for my TRS-80 Model 4P
> - Some shrink wrapped games for the Apple II, Atari 8bit, and C64
> - TI 99/4A "P-Code Module", whatever the heck that is (goes in the
> expansion bay)
> - Atari 65XE game computer
> - Atari 7800 ProSystem with PS, RF adapter and 3 joysticks
> - Colecovision driving expansion module
>
> Kai
>
i'm trying to fire up the old Heath H-120. it seems to have "forgotten"
how to see the floppy disk controller, i get:
DEVAULT DEVICE CONTROLLER ERROR
i've checked quite a few things (e.g. reseat card and chips, look for cold
solder joits, etc. - see my more extensive posting on comp.sys.zenith.z100).
it seems like maybe getting hold of another H207 card (floppy controller)
would be worth trying - or maybe even a whole Z100 system for swapping
parts. are these still showing up at auctions? (DOD was of course a big
Z100 customer). How do i find out about these auctions? anyone know of a
source for spares or help with this sort of thing? thanks.
- glenn
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| Comments are my own and not the opinion of my employer
| groberts(a)mitre.org
Saturday my wife had chanced upon a Commodore 64 system (computer,
1541 drive, cables, power supply) whith some books & magazines. Since
the flea market was closing there was a final offer of $10.00.
Needless to say I bought it (for $8.36, all the change I had left),
mainly because it was worth $10.00 for the stuff and the disks, books,
and magazines caught my attention. Besides the system I got a users
guide for the computer and drive, a programmer's reference guide, and a
couple software manuals. Many of the disks seem to be copies of stuff,
I'll have to scan them to see if there are any lost treasures... The
Magazines included 6 Commander magazines from 1983/84 (this is the first
time I've had the opportunity to flip though this publication.),
Commodore Power/Play June/July 84, a Popular Computing and a Personal
Computing magazine (the latter two have very little Commodore coverage
and were talking about the Apple II and IBM as on even playing fields.)
Also a Scholastic K-Power Collection of computer programs, "10
awsome/original/unusual/super/fantastic/computer puzzles and games"
The computer seems to be dead ('m glad he didn't sell it to someone
for the $50 he was asking for it), the drive is in great shape (as it
helped copy many disks for me today) and the magazines are facinating.
In the Magazines: I finally saw an ad for the OSCAR bar code reader,
looked good to me, one argument they had in the ad was the unreliability
of tapes, heck, I have tapes older than that ad that still work, but it
would be cool to have a bar code reader for my computer(s). The issue
of Popular Computing had a review on the Jupiter Ace 4000 (looks kinda
like a Sinclair ZX80, but has FORTH as it's built-in language) Pretty
in-depth too, 5 pages long with a screen shot and an overview of the
differences of ACE FORTH to other FORTH standards. The K-power is kinda
a rosetta stone of BASICs with similar programs for Adam, Apple, Atari,
Commodore 64, IBM PC, TI-99/4A, TRS-80 Color Computer/Model III/4, and
VIC-20. Some programs deal with at least low-res graphics and another
with music.
Later on I fondled a Compupro 10 at a thrift shop, like like it was a
multi-user machine with 4 console ports, 3 printer ports, a SCSI/SASI
port and an 8" drive port (to compliment it's two 5.25" drives bays it
already has. Will have to browse the web and see if I can see what it
was about.
Larry Anderson
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I pulled out a disk I had sitting here which I totally forgot I had.
It's the program 'Uniform', version 2.02, from Micro Solutions and is
copywrited 1986. This is the PC version, and I hadn't tried it before
because it's been quite a long time since I had a PC with the 5-1/4" drives.
Well, I installed it onto the MS-DOS 2.11 boot disk copy I keep with the IBM
5155 and began trying different CP/M formats with it, including Kaypro 4 and
Osbourne Executive formats. It read both formats flawlessly, though I've
not tried formatting an Osbourne or Kaypro disk on the PC and then reading
it on the real machine since Uniform does that as well. The leaflet which
comes with the disk says that on an XT, the program supports 110 different
CP/M formats, while on an AT it supports 160 (I'm assuming with a HD disk
drive).
I knew that I could read a number of different CP/M formats using
CP/M 3.0 on the C-128, but hadn't given this program much attention before.
Is there anyone out there who still uses this program for data exchange?
Jeff jeffh(a)unix.aardvarkol.com <--- new address
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Collector of Classic Computers: Amiga 1000, Amiga 3000, Atari 800, Atari
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Kaypro 2X, Mattel Aquarius, Osbourne Executive, Timex-Sinclair 1000, TRS-80
Color Computer 3, TRS-80 Model IV
Plus Atari SuperPong and Atari 2600VCS game consoles
> On Mon, 26 May 1997, Barry Peterson wrote:
> Gee, it's started already 8-(
No, it started a long time ago.
> No, it worth about $0.50. Of course, you have all the documentation, and
> the disks that go with it. That might make it worth $1.50.
It's worth what someone will pay for it. Nobody is forcing anyone to pay
"too much" for anything. It's called supply and demand.
> It's much better to get rid of it locally - $25 and it yours. Come pick it
> up! Better for you, better for it.
Nice if you can find someone locally to take it off your hands. Why do you
think there are so many computers at the thrift stores with garage sale
price tags on them. The general public doesn't want them.
> > 2: Would be unethical to email the non-winning bidders with an offer
> > to sell my computer to them?
>
> Only to those of us who want to preserve the beasts - rather than sell
> them off for a profit.
I don't think there's any harm in trying to get a fair price for anything.
We're not talking about selling food to starving people at ridiculous prices
and this stuff is selling way below it's original cost. As more of this
stuff is trashed and recycled, it's just the way it works. Best thing to do
is get your stuff while it's still cheap. Then someday, if you ever get rid
of it you can donate it to a needy collector and feel really good about it.
I'd really like to pick up a 1964 mustang convertible for $500 but those
greedy bastards want more than they cost new! Can you imagine? All I want to
do is preserve it.