Out of curiosity, anyone know how many IMSAIs were produced?
Sam
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You do need the system disks in order to make copies of disks.
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> From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Apple ][e software?
> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 1997 8:50 PM
>
> On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Cord Coslor wrote:
>
> > Greetings:
> >
> > I just picked up an Apple ][e, monitor, disk drives, the whole works...
> > even a mouse! But, I am wondering if someone out there might be able to
> > sell me a copy of the Disk Operating System disks and maybe one or two
> > (more?...) game disks?
> >
> > Please get in touch with me at the below address, e-mail, or phoen
number,
> > if you might have something like that which I could use to get the
system
> > going.
>
> Cord, forget about the system disks. You don't actually need them. The
> Apple was the kind of computer where you could use it with or without
> disks, although having software made it more useful. Each disk for the
> apple is self-contained and has whatever DOS it needs to run it. Your
> main concern right now is to get software for it, whatever that may be -
> games, utilities, productivity, etc. Find the apple users group near you
> (if there is one) or go to comp.sys.apple where you will find a ton of
> information on how and where to obtain apple software. Its not hard to
> find, there were literally tens of thousands of titles published for the
> Apple ][. If you've never had an Apple before, you want to go out and
> start collecting ssome of the games released for it, as there are some
> fun titles. But as far as system disks, if you want to round out your
> collection, then I guess you would want an original copy just to say you
> have them, but every Apple I ever got was second-hand, and I already had
> software from the previous apple I was upgrading from, and having the
> original system disks was a moot point, as there were so many other more
> useful disks to have.
>
> Sam
>
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> Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer,
Jackass
>> I'm wondering if there's a way to hack code to get it to copy without
>> any System Master programs.
>
>Oh, sure. Just take a look at the description of the RWTS
>(Read - write - track/sector) routines
>in the Apple _DOS 3.3 Manual_. (You know, the one with the Disk ][
>and controller schematics.) You could probably come up with a
>basic sector duplicator using a dozen lines of BASIC, sprinkled
>liberally with PEEKs, POKEs, and CALLs.
I could do it if I was at home, but I don't have all the manuals at
college with me. So, I'm attempting to rely on memory (I'm pretty sure
I've done something like this with RWTS before). I know a lot of
times, instead of using the boring INIT command to format a new disk,
I would use the RWTS version just for kicks.
Too bad you really can't have as much fun with new computers. :)
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At 11:51 AM 6/17/97 -0700, you wrote:
>IIRC it was a 1040ST motherboard in a laptop case. They come up for
>sale once in a while in the Atari ST news groups. It seems to me
The last STacy I saw sold went for about $750 -- about a year ago. They
still get close to that; they're still popular with musicians.
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At 12:12 AM 6/19/97 -0400, you wrote:
>> If they're shipped to the bay area, I've got lots of boxes and packing
>Uh, but what of us here on the other coast (where the devices are to start
>with)? (I'm in the same area code, actually). Damn, but I wish I was
Oh, sure, keep 'em there before distributing them. *Don't* send 'em across
the country before sending 'em back. Go ahead, be normal. 8^)
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Tandy 600
Introduced:
October 28, 1985
CPU:
80C88
RAM:
32K expandable to 224K in 96K increments
Display:
Flip-up 80x16 LCD
Storage:
Internal 3.5" 360K floppy
(storage only, not bootable)
Ports:
RS-232 and Centronics parallel
Bus:
Proprietary for external floppy or "other peripherals"
One option ROM socket (accessible by removing
Multiplan) that holds BASIC or other ROMs
Power:
AC adapter, and built-in NiCd batteries
Modem:
Internal 300 baud
Operating System:
Proprietary ROM
Applications:
Built-in System Manager, Word, Calendar, File,
Telcom and Multiplan
BASIC:
Optional ROM cartridge
Keyboard:
72-key
Pricing:
Base system $1599
BASIC ROM $129
96K RAM upgrade $399
> It seems every time I turn around, I find something else I either
> haven't seen in a while, or don't know anything about it. In this case,
> I picked up a brand new Digilog 1500 some number of years ago. It is
> not on the "Big List" so does anyone know anything about this?
Yeah, I know a little about Digilogs. Used to use one quite a bit; when I
started working here, that was the CP/M machine of choice and we had a
couple of them (the non-CP/M machine of choice were the Micro PDP-11s that
DEC kept throwing at us). Someone had built a custom interface between one
of them and a PC05 to punch paper tape to ship out to folks who did our
wire-wrapping (the software to generate the paper tapes was either in
FORTRAN on the PDP-11s or PL/I-80 on the Digilogs; shortly after I arrived
we moved the FORTRAN version to the VAX-11/780 we had just installed (sigh;
I was the only user of the 11/780 most of the time and I had a whole
gigabyte of RM05s to play with; those were the days), so I never had to use
the PL/I-80 version of the wirewrap software). We started picking up
Televideo 802s and 803s about that time and migrated from the Digilog to
them.
No promises, but I _may_ have a CP/M boot disk for the thing and (depending
on how recently my cow-orkers have cleaned their offices) I may be able to
find a bit of technical info.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
> Hmm. One of my friends got a LOT of apple II stuff from a business that
> went under. One of the things he got was an 8" CP/M disk. I'm gonna go
> try to get my hands on it. (It said CP/M on it). It may be
> destroyed/gone by now. This was a year or two ago, before I got
> interested in old stuff... Any way to tell what system it's for without
> being able to read it?
You usually can't tell what system it's for even _with_ being able to read it.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
I just recieved an Atari XDM121 printer, and it appears to work fine,
though is in need of a new ribbon. It is a daisy wheel printer, 80 column,
and is set up to connect to the Atari 8bit I/O bus. It appears to have been
produced in the mid to late 80's since the style of the case and buttons on
the front are the same as those of the Atari ST line of computers, and not the
earlier 8bit machines (ie. the case is grey and the 3 buttons on the front
panel have diagonal vertical lines). My question is about a third connector
on the back (the other two being the 8bit I/O bus connectors). This third
connector is a modular connector, similar to a RJ-11 phone jack, and it has
just two contacts in it. Any ideas on what this might be for? Any help would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Jeff jeffh(a)unix.aardvarkol.com
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