test-drb May 2018

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by web＠loomcom.com

I'm experimenting with setting up UUCP and Usenet on a cluster of 3B2/400s, and I've quickly discovered that while it's trivial to find old source code for Usenet (B News and C News), it's virtually impossible to find source code for old news *readers*. I'm looking especially for nn, which was my go-to at the time. The oldest version I've found so far is nn 6.4, which is too big to compile on a 3B2/400. If I could get my hands on 6.1 or earlier, I think I'd have a good chance. I also found that trn 3.6 from 1994 works well enough, though it is fairly bloated. Earlier versions of that might be better. Does anyone have better Google-fu than I do? Or perhaps you've got earlier sources squirreled away? As an aside: If you were active on Usenet in 1989, what software were you using? -Seth -- Seth Morabito web at loomcom.com

6 years, 7 months

Old core memory system.

by donald＠donaldwhittemore.com

My 360/65 panel has the control panel for Fabri-Tek add-on memory on the left side. http://www.myimagecollection.com/webpics/65panel.jpg

6 years, 7 months

'90s era PC recommendation.

by seefriek＠gmail.com

Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for a '90s era PC that has PCI and > ISA slots? Ideally I'd like to have EISA slots too. ? At least I > think that's what I want. EISA is a nice-to-have, especially if you want to run multiple interfaces (much better irq handling than ISA) and/or higher speed stuff like FDDI, 100Mb enet, T-3/ATM, etc. Or you already have a cache of EISA cards. That said (and this is x86 specific, because there's a whole HPPA EISA world I don't know a lot about with all sorts of weird stuff): 1) PCI does a better job......usually. 2) EISA motherboards, desktop machines and fun/exotic network cards seem to be getting increasingly rare and ridiculously expensive, at least on evil auction sites. On the other hand, 10Mb EISA ethernet and scsi cards are chump change. 3) There are some interesting network things that just don't seem to have ever been made for EISA. For example, I've never heard of a fibre ethernet or HSSI card for EISA. 4) I think EISA limits you to 386 through PII CPUs (and probably PII as a PPro Overdrive upgrade outside of a server class machine). At least, I can't think of a P3 machine with EISA. YMMV. 5) The video card options are a bit thin on EISA. The Compaq QVision VGA is common as dirt (and just as dumb), but outside of that the ELSA Winner and ATI Mach32 are the only "real" graphics cards I seem to see often. There's probably some awful TIGA boards out there somewhere. Go PCI. I held on to a couple of Intel Xpress machines for the EISA bus. I doubt I'd pay the premium over a solid PCI/ISA machine. Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > Depends on your CPU needs, but if you're willing to settle for P2/P3 era, > anything using the Intel i440BX or GX generally has very good ISA support. Yeah, but didn't the GX (and KX) have some pretty serious bugs until really late steppings? Same to a lesser extent with the NX. The BX (and FX) however was very reliable, as I recall. Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I've long had a soft spot for the Pentium Pro. Yeah, me too. Great chip with a long useful life. I ran a couple of Intel PR440FX based machine for years past their expiration date because they kept up with the load and just wouldn't die. > A LONG time ago I saw an advertisement for a system that could accept six Pentium Pros. ALR Revolution server, probably. NCR and Corollary made 8-ways. > I /think/ it's a Compaq Deskpro XL 560 Great machine; built like a tank. Much better quality than the Xpress. I had an XL 6200 (200Mhz PPro) for many years and still regret getting rid of it. Lucky you you got yours back. The HP Vectra XU was also pretty nice.

6 years, 7 months

FS: California Computer Systems Model 2210 S-100 system

by sellam.ismail＠gmail.com

Hello Folks. I've listed a nice California Computer Systems S-100 computer for sale. Details are here: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?63588-California-Computer-Systems… Thanks! Sellam P.S. If you're waiting on something from me, know that I have not forgotten about you, just took most of the last month to setup and plant the garden. I am getting back up to speed and will respond to everyone and pick up where we left off promptly, but feel free to nudge me if you somehow fall through the cracks and are neglected. Forgive me, and please know it is not intentional.

6 years, 7 months

wtb PC2K1-AA keyboard has blue trim and special WPS markings on the keys.

by couryhouse＠aol.com

wtb PC2K1-AA keyboard has blue trim and special WPS markings on the keys. reply offlist? please ? ed sharpe archivist?for smecc?

6 years, 7 months

WTB or? HP 150 and HP 125 and hp 120 computers especaly want large scree touchscreen II 150!

by couryhouse＠aol.com

WTB or? HP 150 and HP 125 and hp 120 computers especially?want large screen touchscreen II 150! ? also looking? for? rack? mount? hp 85? ?also looking? for? hp 86? / 87 ? any product and point of sale? display materials? for? there are? ?good to sell us? too.? ?they spice up? a? display. ? drop me? a note off list Ed Sharpe archivist??for SMECC ? ? ? ? ?

6 years, 7 months

HP 3000/37 console

by mloewen＠cpumagic.scol.pa.us

Does anyone know if a non-HP terminal will work as the console for a HP 3000 Series 37? The power-on self-test uses ENQ/ACK to speed sense, but the manual also implies that it will sense speed from a <CR>. On my 37, the TIC self-test passes up to the point where it talks to the terminal, but fails to to speed sense. Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/

6 years, 7 months

Old core memory system.

by mattislind＠gmail.com

Can anyone tell what kind of computer this might have been connected to? https://i.imgur.com/IC3AVCf.jpg I googled MS8192X26-1.9-RT and found one hit: http://www.nsn-now.com/Indexing/ViewDetail.aspx?QString=7025013480747 And then FABRI-TECH (maybe miss-spelled) gave a nice broschure: https://archive.org/details/TNM_Fabri-Tek_Inc_-_Brochure_20170629_0325 The core memory system boxes indeed look similar. But still no clue what kind of system this has been connected to. What kind of system made use of 26 bits? Maybe 24 bits + check bits? It could be flight control related since it is aviation museum that currently have it. But the person I have contact with don't know the actual source. Possibly flight simulation since the same guys do have several old flight simulators.

6 years, 7 months

HP 3000/37 console

by kevenm＠reeltapetransfer.com

(Retrying post with different email) Another quick thought, Putty ( https://www.putty.org/ ) has serial mode, and an AnswerBack for ENQ (Control-E). You could try using that, although HPterm escape sequences will not work. Keven Miller > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Loewen via cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Sent: Mon 07 May 2018 09:36 PM > Subject: HP 3000/37 console > > >> >> Does anyone know if a non-HP terminal will work as the console for a >> HP 3000 Series 37? The power-on self-test uses ENQ/ACK to speed sense, >> but the manual also implies that it will sense speed from a <CR>. On my >> 37, the TIC self-test passes up to the point where it talks to the >> terminal, but fails to to speed sense. >> >> >> Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us >> Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ >> >

6 years, 7 months

HP 3000/37 console

by kevenm＠reeltapetransfer.com

(Retrying post, with different email.) As Ed mentioned, I believe the CISC machines will need the ENQ/ACK. I thought that speed-sense was only on the CR. But the ENQ/ACK will happen every 80 chars sent. I think you can wait on it because it will timeout, and continue. Or when output pauses, you could type Control-F, as I recall. If you cannot get your hands on Reflection ( https://www.microfocus.com/products/reflection/ ) (took me a moment to find it, now that microfocus controls it) or Minisoft Win92/Secure92 (www.minisoft.com), or an hp terminal, you could try QC-Term. http://www.3kranger.com/Atmar/AICS_qcterm.shtm Keven Miller > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Loewen via cctalk" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Sent: Mon 07 May 2018 09:36 PM > Subject: HP 3000/37 console > > >> >> Does anyone know if a non-HP terminal will work as the console for a >> HP 3000 Series 37? The power-on self-test uses ENQ/ACK to speed sense, >> but the manual also implies that it will sense speed from a <CR>. On my >> 37, the TIC self-test passes up to the point where it talks to the >> terminal, but fails to to speed sense. >> >> >> Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us >> Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/ >> >

6 years, 7 months

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test-drb May 2018