test-drb September 2016

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G4 cube (was Re: 68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...)

by glen.slick＠gmail.com

On Sep 13, 2016 9:16 AM, "Al Kossow" <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote: > > I've been working on archiving documentation and firmware from microprocessor > based CRT terminals for a couple of months, since I realized they are disappearing > the same way CRT monitors have. Did you ever get any Motorola EXORterm docs that were mentioned here? http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?44638-Motorola-EXORciser/page4

8 years, 3 months

Logic Analyser Advice

by mark＠markesystems.com

> I finally managed to pick up a logic analyser for a price I could justify. > It is a HP1630G and it comes with a number of pods. However the pods do > not > seem to have the actual wires/probes. Is there a separate part number for > these that I should look for. There seem to be quite a few items like > this: > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291753390848, are these likely to be suitable > alternatives? Sign seen on an HP logic analyzer at a local swap meet: HP 1630G Logic Analyzer: $10 Complete set of probes: $500 ~~ Mark Moulding

8 years, 3 months

Recovering 4mm tar tapes

by dj.taylor4＠comcast.net

I have a pair of 4mm DDS tapes from 1999 that I would like to recover. I was able to read one with tar on a Debian (jessie) Linux system, but the second gives an error. The tape that I could read is a Sony with DDS markings and 4 bars next to the DDS logo. It was written on an SGI computer. I was able to read this with a simple tar -xvf /dev/st0 command. The second tape is a 3M brand with DDS markings and 4 bars next to the DDS logo. It also has 'Media Recognition System' and DD-90 written on it. Here is the dialog and error: root at T5400deb:/home/taylor/4mm_tar_1998# lsscsi [0:0:4:0] disk codesrc SCSI2SD 4.2 /dev/sdc [0:0:5:0] disk codesrc SCSI2SD 4.2 /dev/sdd [0:0:6:0] tape ARCHIVE 4326XX 27871-XXX 0324 /dev/st0 [3:0:0:0] disk ATA WDC WD800JD-75MS 1E04 /dev/sda [3:0:1:0] cd/dvd PLDS DVD+-RW DH-16A6S YD11 /dev/sr0 [4:0:0:0] disk ATA ST500DM002-1BD14 KC45 /dev/sdb root at T5400deb:/home/taylor/4mm_tar_1998# mt -f /dev/st0 status drive type = 114 drive status = 318767616 sense key error = 0 residue count = 0 file number = 0 block number = 0 root at T5400deb:/home/taylor/4mm_tar_1998# tar -xvf /dev/st0 tar: /dev/st0: Cannot read: Input/output error tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now The tape drive is a Seagate CTD8000R-S with COMPAQ markings. There are 5 jumpers to configure the drive and one is for MRS which the jumper config page I have says it is enabled (Default), however the pins are missing for that option. What does that mean? (None of the config jumpers were installed for the tape that I could read) Is the 2nd tape just bad and can't be read? Or do I need a slightly different tape drive? Doug

8 years, 3 months

68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...

by vintagecomputer＠bettercomputing.net

Man I remember when the Cube came out.. I saw one on display at an Apple store with 23 inch Cinema display. ?Man I wanted one badly. ?But wayyyy too much money. ?Definitely want one for my collection. ?Probably not too expensive now. Sent from my Samsung device -------- Original message -------- From: George Rachor <george.rachor at gmail.com> Date: 2016-09-11 8:09 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: 68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use... My wife and I purchased the G4 cube, monitor, as well as enhanced sound package.? It?s primary? purchase was using it as a music server and some games.? My wife was working with Apple II e?s and very early Mac?s at the time. Over time I had to replace a failing hard drive. I retired it last week as I couldn?t put a modern browser on it.? The last few years I used it for only music. Retire means I?m packing it up to put in a dust proof container and placed in storage. Not looking to get rid of it but will obviously will someday. Not really vintage but it has served a long and happy life. George Rachor Hillsboro, Oregon george at rachors.com > On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Chris Hanson <cmhanson at eschatologist.net> wrote: > > What do you mean by ?retired,? and what kind of setup did you have for it? > >? -- Chris > >> On Sep 11, 2016, at 11:10 AM, George Rachor <george.rachor at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I just retired my G4 cube (still working).? Replaced it with a NOT NEW iMac. >> >> George Rachor >> george at rachors.com <mailto:george at rachors.com> >> >> >>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=30456459#p30456459 >>> >>> Found via: >>> >>> http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/an-os-9-odyssey-why-do-some-mac-users-… >>> >>> -- >>> Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile >>> Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven >>> MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven >>> Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) ? +420 702 829 053 (?R) >> >

8 years, 3 months

G4 cube (was Re: 68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...)

by rlloken＠telus.net

Mark, I strongly support the addition of Oscar to your Mac Pro. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our Athabasca, Alberta Canada : heads are naked!" ** rlloken at telus.net ** : - Arthur Black

8 years, 3 months

Recovering 4mm tar tapes

by cruff＠ruffspot.net

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 11:00 AM, cctech-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > Is the 2nd tape just bad and can't be read? Or do I need a > slightly different tape drive? It may be bad or perhaps it was written with a larger block size? I don?t recall what tar does if the tape was written with a record size larger than the default. You might try using dd if=/dev/st0 bs=65532 of=... on the tape to see if you can read it at all. I don?t recall what the maximum record size on these tapes are, but it seems like it isn?t a full 65KiB. Also, make sure the drive is not configured for fixed block mode.

8 years, 3 months

Classic computer get together in Lower Mainland, BC, Canada

by azd30＠telus.net

Hi, This might only be of interest to people in the Pacific North West. We are starting a new retro-computer club in Chilliwack, BC. Both Rob C, and myself have a pretty good collection of 'classic' computers and rather than having them sit in a basement collecting dust, we thought we'd bring them out on a monthly basis for show and tells and demos... We are planning on making this a monthly meeting. I plan on bringing an ATARI 130XE w/1050 and an SD2SIO card, and the ATARI Assembler to demonstrate some 6502 ML programming, a minimal PDP11/23 in a H9281-BA enclosure (CPU, memory and DLV11 to power up to ODT) and a GrID tablet computer Rob C (who set this whole thing up) will be bringing: >I was thinking I would bring out some of the micro-controllers I have been using, together with my >ATMega based home brew computer that I have been building. I was also thinking of bringing >out my retro-chip tune tracker PC that I built and do a music demo. Meeting details: CHILLIWACK RETRO-COMPUTING CLUB 7:00PM September 22, 2016 Sardis (FVRL) Library 5819 Tyson Road, Sardis, BC We also have an email and a FB group set up (web site coming soon): chilliwackretro (at) gmail (dot) com www.facebook.com/chilliwackretro cheers -- alex

8 years, 3 months

OpenVMS manuals (Grey wall + HP) available, Windermere UK

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Greetings I have a set of OpenVMS 7.3 era manuals available (grey wall). They are located in Windermere, UK. At the moment I am unable to ship them due to lack of packing materials so it would be either via collection or by an arrangement. The manuals are generally in good condition. I can get a list together if anyone is interested. I also have a large numbr of HP/Compaq softbound manuals which came as a set also available. Please email me direct if interested. I am the organiser of declegacy.org.uk so if you want to come along on October 15th-16th and collect them you've got a reason to visit Windermere. Please feel free to pass this message on to anyone you think might be interested. Regards, Mark. ----- End forwarded message -----

8 years, 3 months

obscure forgoten Machean of Europe?

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

I've got the model for the Phillips p1000 love to get more stuff to go with it. Got the paper cut out scan someone sent me a while back. Came across this doing my once every few months search https://aconit.inria.fr/omeka/items/show/595 http://amitrtlu.free.fr/guirimand/G3d.htm What other obscure European Machean are out there? All seems we see is HP and Dec mostly talked about yet we forget about allot of others and the thread about that random lot of military grade Machean the chm called junk trash didn't want got me thinking

8 years, 3 months

Using a modern USB joystick on a vintage computer (Atari compatible)

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

I've seen plenty of examples of adapters to use a vintage joystick with a modern computer. I'd like the opposite - to use a USB controller with a vintage computer (Atari compatible - for example ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64). Does anyone know of an adapter or a homebrew project? Thanks, Mark.

8 years, 3 months

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