test-drb December 2016

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by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Lars Brinkhoff <l > (What is it with Swedes and ITS?!?) They're definitely seriously crazy. I myself attribute it to the weather. :-) You probably already know this, but I doubt everyone does, but shortly after MIT-MC (the KL ITS) was shut down, a bunch of (crazy - redundant, I know :-) Swedes showed up at MIT with a shipping container (perhaps under the mistaken impression that Cambridge was Lindisfarne ;-), and loaded the KL into it, along with, IIRC, one of the KA ITS machines - possibly AI? They then shipped the whole thing back to Sweden. ISTR that they actually got the KL to work, but I don't know what the current status of the whole works is. (Me, if I'd taken a KA, I would have taken a second one for spares! The parts in that thing are _seriously_ obscure. :-) Noel

7 years, 4 months

Rack Headers, banners or whatever you call them.

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys Based on the 8/m rack header scan that came in overnight I have done a quick Inkscape artwork. Its not production quality, sized or color matched but ok for a prototype. Printed on aluminium or decal and roll out the air should be possible. Rod

7 years, 4 months

Refurb Panasonic and Okidata dot matrix

by sales＠elecplus.com

1 OKIDATA ML320 5 OKIDATA ML321 1 OKIDATA ML320 TURBO 1 OKIDATA 390 TURBO 1 PANASONIC KX-PP1123 I know that some people were looking for dot matrix printers. This fellow has refurbished units in stock that he is looking to clear out. Not affiliated with the seller, and I have not dealt with him before. Nick Ratansi CAO, Inc tel 718 939 7976 dir 718 886 2025 Nick at compuaddons.com Cindy Croxton

7 years, 4 months

PDP-6s at MIT

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Adrian Graham > I was born 10 years too late to see it all as it grew. ... these early > years are fascinating to me. Well, you _can_ still experience ITS! It runs under a number of PDP-10 simulators (and there used to be an 'open-access' ITS system on the 'net at its.svensson.org, but alas it doesn't seem to be up any more - although in a fit of fore-sightedness, I downloaded the source to the HTTP server he wrote while it was still up). But you can still download one of the emulators that supports the special ITS instructions on the PDP-10, KLH's KLH10, and SIMH; instructions, files, etc here for KLH10: http://klh10.trailing-edge.com/ and SIMH: https://www.cosmic.com/u/mirian/its/ which give step-by-stop on how to get ITS running. Noel

7 years, 4 months

DEC banner panel check your filter for the hi res images from scanner

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

may times my aol ends in the bucket. if someone can pass this to Rod and Tony thanks Ed#

7 years, 4 months

DEC banner panel

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

or print it on thick photo paper on a really large printer and glue it in the plastic header for the rack. - Ed# In a message dated 12/26/2016 11:10:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, ard.p850ug1 at gmail.com writes: On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com> wrote: >> That's going to be 'fun'.. I can see myself making rollers and a frame to >> hold them. And then tryng to get a bit of sheet aluminium, cut it, round >> the corners etc. >> >> -tony > > I'm a bit better resourced. I already have access to whats needed. Price > could be interesting. Price is one reason for doing it myself. I can see this banner ending up as the most expensive part of the system (so far that 'honour' goes to an RX8e board I bought from a reseller about 20 years ago). Another reason is that having rebuilt just about everything else myself, I am not going to be beaten by a decorative panel... -tony

7 years, 4 months

DEC banner panel

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

I just sent Rod and Tony 8M metal sign Hi Res check your bad mail folder my AOL ends up there often Rod cam change my 8m scan to say 8E or 8 whatever! so funny... I found this behind a console radio today - I had not seen it in over 20 years It used to be on one of my H-960s that had PDP-8 in it.. fortune it would tun up on a day with some one in need. Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 12/26/2016 10:56:04 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, paisley at erols.com writes: > Thanks for the offer. But as yet I don't have a picture. I don't even > know that the banner existed. > All I've seen (and got) are the PDP11 ones. I _assume_ there was one > for PDP8 systems, but > assumptions can be dangerous. Hi Tony. Are you talking about the banner for the main system? Or the second rack? The PDP/8e one looks like this: http://www.employees.org/~kirk/images/pdp8e.jpg A few years ago I had an insert printed out at a local Fast Signs store. I scanned an original that was beat up and created some artwork for the PDP-8e, PDP-11, and a DECSystem10 one (The first 2 were made from actual H960 rack banners. The last one was a whimsical one I created for fun.) I am not at home right now, but I can look to see if I can dig up the art work. I don't have one online of my PDP-8e one, but here are the other ones: http://www.willys-overland.com/rack/100_3452.jpg http://www.willys-overland.com/rack/100_3456.jpg Todd Paisley

7 years, 4 months

DEC banner panel

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Re- the PDP-8 one I just scanned.. On the plastic thing on H-960 these metal logo plates stick right into the front into the recess with gummy stuff on the back of the metal. Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 12/26/2016 10:56:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, ajp166 at verizon.net writes: On 12/26/2016 04:14 PM, Tony Duell wrote: > On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Paul Koning <paulkoning at comcast.net> wrote: >>> On Dec 26, 2016, at 4:03 PM, Tony Duell <ard.p850ug1 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> ... >>> I hadn't realised that they were printed on aluminium. Ouch!. I also >>> don't know how they are fixed to the plastic header panel, my plastic >>> panel is 'empty' and I don't see any adhesive residue. Maybe some >>> kind of double-sided tape? >> No, the aluminum is adhesive-backed (with a rather potent adhesive). >> It's similar to what you see in serial number plates on machinery. I >> have somewhere a PDP-11 banner plate by itself, with the wax paper >> backing covering the adhesive still in place. If your plastic bracket is >> clean looking, it may never have had the panel stuck to it in the first >> place. > Odd...The chap who gave me the rack removed the panel (and the fan, > and the stabiliser feet) for transport and gave me a box with them in. He > commented that as I was putting a PDP8e in it, I'd probably not want the > banner that was there (I am pretty sure that the original contents of this > H960 was some kind of PDP11 system). > > Anyway, spend the day cleaning dust off parts, stripping the fan and power > controller, etc. I did not notice any adhesive residue on the plastic header > panel. And I think I would have done. > > So perhaps the header was blank, or the banner just pushed in (perhaps > somebody forgot to remove the backing paper...). > > -tony > Sounds like the banner plate for my 11T (Qbus 11 in a 50inch rack) the banner holder was such that it could slid in from the end if you took off the plastic end stop. It has the PDP-11 in in the older reds scheme on thin maybe .040" aluminium. Allison

7 years, 4 months

DEC banner panel

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

ok Tony and Rod let me know if pic gets though in other message later I can try to scan in 11x 14 scanner? when you get the art cleaned up SMECC museum would like hi res copy too! i have a few minutes till next post atomic holocaust movie comes on let me go try the scanner In a message dated 12/26/2016 8:57:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com writes: On 27/12/2016 01:17, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote: > Tony yes we have one with markings stating and for a 8M that fits in > the plastic thingis at the top of H-960 > It is in the usual orange pdp-8'ish colors. Odd! Just found it today in > my house behid a old radio console. Do you need a pic? > > Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC > > > In a message dated 12/26/2016 1:09:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > ard.p850ug1 at gmail.com writes: > > On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Rod Smallwood > <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com> wrote: > >> If you have a picture I'll see what I can do > Thanks for the offer. But as yet I don't have a picture. I don't even > know that the banner existed. > All I've seen (and got) are the PDP11 ones. I _assume_ there was one > for PDP8 systems, but > assumptions can be dangerous. > > -tony > Hi Would it be possible for me to have a picture as well? I can then do some artwork. If possible a scan (two parts is ok) else a photo with camera at right angles pointing at the center of the panel. Also a note of the panel size (H x W) Thanks Rod (Panelman) Smallwood

7 years, 4 months

DEC banner panel

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Tony yes we have one with markings stating and for a 8M that fits in the plastic thingis at the top of H-960 It is in the usual orange pdp-8'ish colors. Odd! Just found it today in my house behid a old radio console. Do you need a pic? Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC In a message dated 12/26/2016 1:09:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ard.p850ug1 at gmail.com writes: On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com> wrote: > > If you have a picture I'll see what I can do Thanks for the offer. But as yet I don't have a picture. I don't even know that the banner existed. All I've seen (and got) are the PDP11 ones. I _assume_ there was one for PDP8 systems, but assumptions can be dangerous. -tony

7 years, 4 months

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