test-drb June 2015

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by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Paul Koning > I remember a PDP11 (11/45 probably) at the University of Illinois, > ... The system was called ANTS (not sure what that stands for) "ARPA Network Terminal System". According to RFC-597, Illinois had both an 11/20 and an 11/50 (11/45 variant) running ANTS; other sites also ran it on an 11/40. > it had a custom logo panel for the top of the H960 racks, in red and > yellow, showing large ants crawling all along the cabinets. That could have been a local thing. At MIT, the first MIT-built LISP Machines, also housed in H960 racks, had custom logo panels reading "LISP Machine", with an illustration of a LISP two-part cell, with pointers (to other, un-shown, cells). I still have one... (the panel, not the CADR). Noel PS: In a previous message, I wrote "KA-11"; I meant, of course, 'KA-10'. Got -11's on the brain.. ;-)

9 years, 6 months

PDP-8/e front panels.

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Rod Smallwood > The switches were made by a company in the US called Stackpole > ... > They are a normal slide type modified with a U bracket to allow the > attachment of a lever arm to operate the switch when toggled up and > down. Ah; the 11/05's (which is what I need switches for) use toggle switches (like I said, pretty much standard micro toggle switches, excepts for the front plate). I'm pretty sure the later 11's with complete front panels (40's, 45's, etc) used the same kind of switch. I was assuming all the PDP-x's of that era used the same front panel switch design, but apparently not. Or perhaps I'm mixing my eras a bit, and the slightly earlier ones all used the slide switch stuff (I just checked my KA-11 panel, and it uses slide switches). I think the 11/20 might have used the slide switches (its switch register looks just like the one on the -8M). Anyway, it seems like we all need both kinds! :-) Noel

9 years, 6 months

PDP 8/e Front panel Shipping Forecast

by rodsmallwood52＠btinternet.com

Hi Guys 1. I have nine 8/e finished panels waiting for me to drill the two round holes Keylock will be drilled 5/8* (May need countersinking from rear) Shaft hole will be drilled 1/4" 2, They are my Type A. (As photo) No vertical octal byte divider lines First and last switch positions vertical. Box around switch area. No diffuser over lamp clear areas (use semi translucent tape on back) 3. The price is $95.00 + $15.00 Shipping (Customs and State Taxes not included tape) 4. One per customer until this batch runs out 5. Next batch (20) due in 5-7 Working days + finished item shipping time to US. 6. Send $110 to my PayPal Account (rodsmallwood52 at btinternet.com) and email me your address, 7. One has already gone so seven slots left Regards Rod

9 years, 6 months

Memory options for an HP 1000 (HP 21MX / 2112A)

by marc.verdiell＠gmail.com

Jay, I have gotten a M.E.M memory expansion board (two of them actually!) for my 21 MX. And many memory cards. So now all I need is the DMS firmware board. I am interested in yours if you still have it... I tried to contact you off-list but no success, maybe I ended up in your junk mail pile. I have gotten quite a few other boards so maybe I can get you something in exchange. Just contact me off list. Thanks, Marc >On Wed May 20 14:32:25 CDT 2015 >Jay West said: >I believe I have a DMS firmware board for the M series that is not needed, >I've passed on most all of my M series machines and focused on the E. >J

9 years, 6 months

HP 3082A ("Industrial Touch") Terminal service manual or

by marc.verdiell＠gmail.com

Whooo. Very nice terminal. I want one too :-). Can't help with your problem unfortunately. Marc >From: Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com> >Subject: HP 3082A ("Industrial Touch") Terminal service manual or > other info? >Hi all -- >The lovely HP 3082A terminal I've been using with my PDP-11/73 has started exhibiting odd/annoying behavior today. The 3082A is also known as the "Industrial >Touch" terminal, it's a compact unit in a rugged housing with an EL display, built in keyboard, and a touchscreen. [.] >Josh

9 years, 6 months

Front Panel Update

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

Ah! the old 8S ....thinking back on it this 8S was from a site we were actually paid to haul stuff away from as the land lord had the building rented to a new tenant. Date? had to be in 1981 or 82.. we also got a bunch of CDC washing machine early disk drives that were 6 megs or 10 megs that had 6 platters? and truckloads of old tape readers junk power supplies.. I remember trying to use it but alas to no avail... I would toggle in the boot and go look at it and it was all nonsense when I would read the display back. probably bad core drivers!? All this talk has me curious about it again... I will have to pull it out! a! the old days! Ed# In a message dated 6/8/2015 4:02:48 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca writes: > PDP-8/S was my first computer, purchased for five bucks from a guy I > met at a hamfest. That was thirty years ago, and started me on this > whole computer history path. It is temperamental, but still works. > > -- > Will >

9 years, 6 months

Front Panel Update

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

yea Will... things that fit under the workbench can languish for 40 years... if it has to sit on top it may a a shorter lifespan.... Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 6/8/2015 3:18:35 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, wdonzelli at gmail.com writes: > It's pretty rare. I have one too. > > I've seen and heard of more straight 8s than I have 8/S PDP-8/Ss used to be quite rare, but they have been popping out of the woodwork for some time now. I would venture to say they are now more extant that Straight-8s. Small is survivability. PDP-8/S was my first computer, purchased for five bucks from a guy I met at a hamfest. That was thirty years ago, and started me on this whole computer history path. It is temperamental, but still works. -- Will

9 years, 6 months

Front Panel Update

by couryhouse＠aol.com

8s is rare?? ? We have one. ?Is there a an registry? ? Ed# ?smecc.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> Date: 06/08/2015 12:05 PM (GMT-07:00) To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Front Panel Update On 6/8/2015 12:28 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Theres an 8/f which replaced the 8/e and has a similar front panel with > extra markings > The 8/m - OEM no front panel > The 8/I has different front panel > The 8/A is a totally different box altogether > > The 8/e was the big seller with thousands shipped > The 8/s was a small seller with 10's of computers shipped. I got to play with both. Ben.

9 years, 6 months

Front Panel Update

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

yea I have only seen the one 8S we got whereas straight 8 back in the biz days 79 to 90 something had 2 plexi desktop straight 8 ( one we kept <ser # 18 got from stanford surplus stores w/ ato d rack too) and the other we sold to the guy that has museum near Yellowstone aprox 25? years ago? it had a s/n in the 200's ... it had come from an az state auction... I was bidding against some damb ass who thought it was a pdp8 A his brother could use for some cnc tape prep thingingie... heh heh ) one straight 8 in blue rack ( still have but the fright company 30 years ago lost the damn desk for it.) 3ea straight 8 used with BEVATRON that were rough and in hideous cabinets ( wish I still had...) In a message dated 6/8/2015 3:04:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, tmfdmike at gmail.com writes: It's pretty rare. I have one too. I've seen and heard of more straight 8s than I have 8/S Mike On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:26 AM, couryhouse <couryhouse at aol.com> wrote: > > > 8s is rare?? We have one. Is there a an registry? Ed# smecc.org > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: ben <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> > Date: 06/08/2015 12:05 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Front Panel Update > > On 6/8/2015 12:28 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: >> Theres an 8/f which replaced the 8/e and has a similar front panel with >> extra markings >> The 8/m - OEM no front panel >> The 8/I has different front panel >> The 8/A is a totally different box altogether >> >> The 8/e was the big seller with thousands shipped >> > The 8/s was a small seller with 10's of computers shipped. > I got to play with both. > Ben. > > -- http://www.corestore.org 'No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother. Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame. For one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see.'

9 years, 6 months

Front Panel Update

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

ok! I knew they came 'toggless' but never saw one... mine had / has togs! I still have a m or an f up in my study ( I forget which...) been up on a shelf for 20 years probably should give it to the SMECC to go with the other 8's I gave them. I am going to make a point of getting the 8s out of oe of the other buildings and brig it to the display area ( and get the s/n to add to a s/n register or we can start a s/n register. Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 6/8/2015 2:54:34 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, nf6x at nf6x.net writes: > On Jun 8, 2015, at 14:52 , Mark J. Blair <nf6x at nf6x.net> wrote: > > >> On Jun 8, 2015, at 14:00 , COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote: >> >> I have seen M with all toggles... > > I've seen one in my machine room, right next to my VAX. :) Oh, and I should have mentioned that it was removed from some sort of CNC stitching machine, which is the sort of application where a no-toggle-switches panel seems more appropriate to me. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net> http://www.nf6x.net/

9 years, 6 months

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test-drb June 2015