I know alot of us have varied interests. Some of us into old
telephones. So im crossposting this event info here.
Attention Antique Collectors & Telephone Enthusiasts, TimmyNet Telephone
Company is hosting its first Antique and Classic Telephone Show at the
Doherty Hotel in Clare Michigan. April 11th 2015 From 8am till 2pm.
General Admission is 5 dollars or 2 nonperishable food items. For all
you flea market vendors that have telephones $15 dollars per table plus
5 dollar registration fee.
We will be having a Food Drive for the Mid Michigan Community Action
Agency in Clare. So come on out, do some good and lets help the
community while reliving our youth and see and use some these Classic
Telephones. Even pick one up for your home for that vintage look. Lots
of swappers will be on site with some great deals.
TimmyNet Telephone Company will have a number of telephones hooked up.
You can call out on them anywhere in the USA,
Below is the show flyer and a link for Online registration for those who
want to swap. Or just give me a call, facebook message or email. My
contact info is listed on the flyer and website. Doherty Hotel and The
Lone Pine Motel are offering great room rates for the show
Website is here https://timmynetphoneshow.wordpress.com/
Online Show Registration is here
http://www.telephonecollectors.org/showReg/signUp.php?eventId=112<http://www.telephonecollectors.org/showReg/signUp.php?eventId=112>
Printable Registration form
http://www.telephonecollectors.org/shows/2015/Michigan/MichiganRegistration…
On 19 February 2015 at 17:40, geneb <geneb at deltasoft.com> wrote:
> I suspect it was Borland's extensions to Pascal that removed any limitation
> in I/O.
That's right. But there's more than I/O. The academic-tool variant
of Pascal, as Wirth designed it, was simply useless in practice, or
extremely cumbersome to use because you couldn't design a function
which could take arrays of variable sizes as input, you had to declare
one function for each size. Hopeless. You couldn't do any real data
processing that way. Turbo Pascal, and every other useful variant,
e.g. the Pascal I used on a minicomputer, fixed that part, and often
added I/O extensions in various ways. In short, they made the language
flexible, and thus usable.
Then TP of course had that fast edit-compile-execute cycle, a low
price, and the super-easy IDE. The learning curve from getting your
hands on TP to actually use it was very low. Actually the Turbo Pascal
IDE is still the only IDE I like. I don't use any of the modern ones,
they are just in the way. But I recently tried the CP/M TP version
again, haven't used it since the eighties.. and I still like the IDE.
Re-learned it in seconds.
I have a SuperCard Pro, but I've only experimented with it a little bit so far. I hope that it will let me migrate away from my KryoFlux, as the KryoFlux folks and I have some philosophical disagreements.
I mostly use Macs as my modern machines, and I use my SCP with Keir Fraser's Disk-Utilities rather than the Windows front end for SCP. Disk-Utilities doesn't currently provide write support for the SCP, but hopefully that won't always be true.
I haven't tried SCP with 8" drives yet, but that's on my get-a-round-toit list.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <nf6x at nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/
> All true, but doesn't it make you wonder why Turbo Pascal
> was such a popular development environment for the PC for so long?
>
> Was it the sheer will power and marketing of Borland, or was
> it the volume of developers who didn't need intensive low-level I/O?
Umm, no. It was the $49.95 price tag, back when compilers cost hundreds -
even thousands - of dollars.
--lyndon
Anyone have any scans or is willing to drop them in the post for a
university?
Full story:
Back in 2005-2007, Qualcomm gave our ECE department a used Agilent 83k
tester (F330t). It's basically sat in pieces because there's been no money
to hook it up.
Well, now there is some money floating around to make this happen, and I'm
the poor GA stuck with trying to dig up
I have the service manuals and site prep guides for the mainframe itself,
but HP/Agilent (in its infinite wisdom) broke out the cooling unit
requirements (as in whether or not we need chilled water or even the gpm)
into its own manual! We have the E2760D L/L (liquid/liquid) unit.
It looks like the manual # is E2760-91001. Any other related manuals would
also be helpful.
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015, John Foust wrote:
> At 05:05 PM 2/18/2015, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>> I snark about Pascal all the time. I encountered it in a professional
>> capacity in 1987. [...]
>> Utterly trivial in languages that trust the programmer to handle
>> unformatted I/O.
>
> All true, but doesn't it make you wonder why Turbo Pascal
> was such a popular development environment for the PC for so long?>
> Was it the sheer will power and marketing of Borland, or was
> it the volume of developers who didn't need intensive low-level I/O?
It was fast, easy to use, and inexpensive.
Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
Anyone have any scans or is willing to drop them in the post for a
university?
Full story:
Back in 2005-2007, Qualcomm gave our ECE department a used Agilent 83k
tester (F330t). It's basically sat in pieces because there's been no money
to hook it up.
Well, now there is some money floating around to make this happen, and I'm
the poor GA stuck with trying to dig up
I have the service manuals and site prep guides for the mainframe itself,
but HP/Agilent (in its infinite wisdom) broke out the cooling unit
requirements (as in whether or not we need chilled water or even the gpm)
into its own manual! We have the E2760D L/L (liquid/liquid) unit.
It looks like the manual # is E2760-91001. Any other related manuals would
also be helpful.
"Nothing unreal exists." - Kiri-kin-tha's First Law of Metaphysics.
I like Jim Drew and I own one, but I can't vouch for its operation.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:27 AM, John Foust <jfoust at threedee.com> wrote:
>
> I asked about the "DiskVaccuum" two days ago and got no response.
> That project caused a handful of messages here a year ago, but no more.
>
> Any opinions on Jim Drew's SuperCard Pro disk-reading device?
>
> It was recommended to me by Cloanto, the Amiga emulator place,
> for archiving my Amiga floppies.
>
> $99, USB on a PC, seemingly nice manual. I'd like it to handle 8" inch
> drives, too, but it looks like I'll need to ask about that, as they
> didn't say more than "it should work."
>
> http://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=SCP
>
> - John
>
>
-----Original Message-----
From: "John Foust" <jfoust at threedee.com>
Sent: ?19/?02/?2015 16:28
To: "cctalk at classiccmp.org" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Pascal not considered harmful - was Re: Rich kids are into COBOL
At 05:05 PM 2/18/2015, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>I snark about Pascal all the time. I encountered it in a professional
>capacity in 1987. [...]
>Utterly trivial in languages that trust the programmer to handle
>unformatted I/O.
All true, but doesn't it make you wonder why Turbo Pascal
was such a popular development environment for the PC for so long?
Was it the sheer will power and marketing of Borland, or was
it the volume of developers who didn't need intensive low-level I/O?
By '85, there were several C compilers for the PC and I even
remember using Gimpel C-terp, a C interpreter that made development
and debugging easier.
- John
I asked about the "DiskVaccuum" two days ago and got no response.
That project caused a handful of messages here a year ago, but no more.
Any opinions on Jim Drew's SuperCard Pro disk-reading device?
It was recommended to me by Cloanto, the Amiga emulator place,
for archiving my Amiga floppies.
$99, USB on a PC, seemingly nice manual. I'd like it to handle 8" inch
drives, too, but it looks like I'll need to ask about that, as they
didn't say more than "it should work."
http://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=SCP
- John