> From: Rich Alderson
> I've .. eliminated the following possibilities:
Using the decsystem10 System Reference Manual (3rd Edition, August '74), I
can additionally eliminate:
Only 2 rows of lights:
DC10 (picture here doesn't have 5 rows, per below?)
> Only 3 rows of lights:
> ME10 memory
> MF10 memory
> TD10 DECtape controller
DA10
MA10
MB10
MD10
> 5 rows of lights:
> KI-10 CPU bays
Would love a picture of these; see pg. F1-5 for why! :-)
> RH10 Massbus interface
> DAS33 memory buffer
> DL10
> DC10
KA10 CPU bays
> 4 rows of lights, but do not match:
> RP10C disk controller
> DF10C
> DA28-C
> RC10
BA10
DS10
TM10
That's getting to be a pretty complete list...
Noel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Rubin" <j at ckrubin.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:13 PM
>
> Here are some of my photos from VCF-Berlin -
> http://tinyurl.com/vcfb-2015 . More narrative is
> at the Vintage Computer Forum -
> http://tinyurl.com/vcfb-vcfd . Enjoy - I
> certainly did!
>
> Jack
>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Stein" <mhs.stein at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 11:30 AM
> Hi Jack,
>
> Unfortunately I can't access the pictures on VCF
... etc.
Getting back to the point before this went seriously off-topic, are other
non-VCF-members also unable to see these pictures on VCF?
If so, would it make sense when posting things like this on VCF to use links
instead of or in addition to uploading and embedding them there?
m
As I finally complete my Micro-Altair kit from Briel Computers, my
thoughts turn to the question of how I can get an audio tape interface
working on this machine.
I understand that the MITS tape controller is essentially a serial port
with a simple modem bolted on the rear. The Micro-Altair has only one
serial port, coming off the ramdisk board, which will be used for the
console (no, I don't want to use the built-in terminal). How can a second
serial port be added to this machine?
Then for recognizing Kansas City tape tones, I suppose I could clone the
circuitry of the tape drive modem. Then I realized I could make an
Arduino do this with a handful of other common parts. I could make it
recognize Tarbell and other tape formats. Has anyone else done this sort
of thing?
--
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After a dozen years I'm shutting down my e-waste recycling business. In
that time I managed to accumulate a lot of interesting things, including a
lot of vintage PCs that are from a bygone era and have enough unique
features to make them collectible. I have models from various brands
including Packard Bell, Acer, HP, Compaq, Leading Edge, etc. There's also
a stack of at least half a dozen restorable IBM PCs (model 5150).
I also have a huge selection of Macs, from some 90s and even 80s models
(Mac SE) all the way through the return of Jobs era with the iMac and the
G3's, G4's (aluminum case servers), etc., plus laptops. I have every iMac
color. I was planning to ripen these to 20 years old before I sold them
on eBay for silly sums but I'll start letting them go still green and you
can ripen them in your garage.
Keyboards and mice also available to make complete systems. I also have
lots of other vintage electronics, including whole items and parts, like
test equipment, some older radio stuff (tubes), &c. Plus a lot of other
cool/useful/practical stuff.
Of course there will be some much more vintagey computers available as
well but those will be selling for "real" money. Everything above is
offered for cheap.
If you'd like to come roam the warehouse in Livermore and shop for
bargains then send me an e-mail and we'll set up an appointment. At this
point I'm available through November 15th here. After that, everyone just
goes away.
Thanks!
--
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I recently won an IBM z890 via auction for $237.
It was a very interesting adventure to retrieve this machine since it
weighs 1500LBS on a good day, and well myself only clocking in around
115LBS I needed the help of a few friends and family to get this thing
into the basement...
I stripped the machine down to its bare rack to get it into the basement
safely, although the rack itself I calculated to weigh about 800LBS itself.
I'd say the most difficult part was the excavation we had to do to get
it to fit under the deck! It was a REALLY tight fit as you will see in
the photos.
It took two trips to get it all, one with the truck alone to remove most
of the innards and another with the trailer to grab the rest out of the
rack and the rack itself.
Its already in the basement and most of the way back together, just
running the wiring internally for it then I need to wire up a 240v 30a
outlet once we get the new breaker box in since there is no more room in
the current box.
Photos of the whole adventure:
http://imgur.com/a/5uWit
I plan to pickup an SAN based SCSI box to install Linux and play with.
As far as I know I can't install any IBM OS' this way, I would need
FICON or ESCON type storage to boot anything like z/OS. (Read EXPENSIVE!)
As far as I know I can grab one of these boxes:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201459314771
And hook this up to a FICON interface and it will act as storage via FCP
as a SAN. This 'should' allow me to use SCSI devices like an array of
hard drives to install Linux.
I'm obviously not very familiar with the z-series but I have been trying
to read up and learn about everything.
Let me know if my thought process and info are correct, also any
suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated!
-Connor K
Mike Ross
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 7:15 PM
> One does not boot a mainframe; one IPLs it. :)
Only if said mainframe is from a company with HQ in Armonk, NY. ;->
You know, the same company that does not have dis[kc]s, but DASD.
Rich
Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Living Computer Museum
2245 1st Avenue S
Seattle, WA 98134
mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.orghttp://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/
Hi all,
I'm in need of a new cabin and might be willing to part with a couple of my
more unusual systems to fund it.
I have a complete Xerox 6085 with monitor, keyboard, mouse, and tape drive
in very good visual condition, with only a few scuffs on the case and some
minor yellowing on the keyboard and mouse. The card slots are fully
populated, but I haven't check how much RAM is installed yet. It has a
working hard drive but no OS. It boots up and IIRC passes the self test. I
don't have a floppy drive for it but could wire one up to further test if
anyone has a diagram.
I also have two Intel MDS IIs, the one I'm thinking of selling currently
lights up but doesn't display anything on the monitor. I also have various
boxed ICE devices (8085/6/8), software (haven't tried reading it, some of
which isn't on bitsavers yet), and manuals for everything.
Has anyone seen these sell in the past? All I could find was an ebay
listing for a badly damaged Xerox base unit for $500. I live in England,
but would be willing to ship worldwide.
Regards,
-Tom
Duh!
In the immortal words of Emily Litella: Never mind.
I keep forgetting that I still have a couple of Proliants, ML370s as it turns
out; not quite the same bay, but probably close enough.
m
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Stein" <mhs.stein at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: SCA drives - any interest?
>I have a couple of 6-drive hot swap bays that some of these drives came out of;
>unfortunately I didn't make a note of what systems they came out of but they
>look like the bay in this Proliant ML370:
> http://techtradepartners.squarespace.com/blog/2011/1/3/we-practice-what-we-…
>
> although this 5500 looks vaguely familiar and there are two of these bays...:
> http://tempcomgauper.blog.com/2014/04/06/compaq-proliant-5500-server/
>
> In any case, they interface through a 68-pin SCSI connector and a 6-pin power
> connector; by any chance would anyone know where I could find the pinout for
> that power connector?
>
> Maybe this isn't the best place to ask; is there a forum where server fans
> hang out?
>
> Thanks,
>
> mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zane Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: SCA drives - any interest?
>
>
>
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/02/2015 08:54 AM, Mike Stein wrote:
>>
>>> In case anyone is looking for the 'caddies' it looks like they're
>>> mostly HP/Compaq, including several dummies; I scrapped more IBM
>>> servers than HP, but to my surprise I only found two IBM units.
>>
>> The nice thing about SCA drives is that adapters for narrow- or wide-SCSI
>> are/used to be available. I've run SCA drives with old Power Macintoshes,
>> for example.
>>
>> I don't know if it's still true, but high-performance SCA drives do tend to
>> run pretty hot.
>>
>> --Chuck
>
> I have one or two of those adapters somewhere. Any SCA drives I've used, have
> been quite hot, which is why I run them in external enclosures intended for
> them. It's rare to find ones that run at less than 7200rpm, most are 10k or
> 15k.
>
> Zane
>
>
>
