test-drb November 2014

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by cctalk＠fahimi.net

Ahhh nice to have the lust back! About a year ago I "rescued" a whole rack of these modems off the side of the street. Unfortunately, they do not come with ANY documentation and my Google fu has so far determined that they are most likely for leased lines only. Does anyone have any info or familiarity with this modem? I know some other IBM LL modems could work over PTSN but had to be set in the right mode. Can this be done for these modems? Also does anyone know if these modems will accept standard Hayes AT commands? Or just the IBM command set? Which brings me to my next question what is the IBM command set? Any documentation or guidance is very much appreciated. I would love to get these guys up and running! -Ali

10 years, 1 month

Why am I getting mod approval messages from cctech?

by drlegendre＠gmail.com

Every post I make to the general list results in a reply from 'cctech owner' explaining that my post is being held for moderation. I'm not sending my mails to that list, nor have I ever been a subscriber. Anyone else having this issue?

10 years, 1 month

Apple IIC w LCD

by brad＠bettercomputing.net

I don't know why but I'd always heard or thought that the Apple LCD was ultra rare unobtainium. ?I remember years ago fights over them going into $1000+. ? Maybe turned ?out to not be so rare? Sent from my Samsung device -------- Original message -------- From: Barry Callahan <barryc at rjlsystems.com> Date: 11-03-2014 7:01 AM (GMT-08:00) To: General at classiccmp.org, "Discussion at classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Apple IIC w LCD On 11/3/2014 9:02 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/161466431402 > > I'm surprised this only went for $300. Are they not that rare? > Well, most IIc's that have sold on ebay recently have gone for $40-50... This Apple-branded flat-panel display recently went for $355, with box. http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/171424543003

10 years, 1 month

Documentation for the Osborne Vixen / Zenith display issue

by drlegendre＠gmail.com

Sorry, forgot to add this. The documentation for the Osborne Vixen is at: http://nerp.net/~legendre/osborne/ Schematic for the Zenith display is on p.2 of the schematic (schem) .pdf

10 years, 1 month

Apple IIC w LCD

by BHuntsman＠mail2.cu-portland.edu

I've seen quite a few sell on eBay over the last 10 years or so of casual watching. They're rare, but not beyond obtainability. ________________________________________ From: cctalk [cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] on behalf of Al Kossow [aek at bitsavers.org] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 6:02 AM To: General at classiccmp.org; On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Apple IIC w LCD http://www.ebay.com/itm/161466431402 I'm surprised this only went for $300. Are they not that rare?

10 years, 1 month

Apple IIC w LCD

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161466431402 I'm surprised this only went for $300. Are they not that rare?

10 years, 1 month

FCO for KDA50-Q?

by jnc＠mercury.lcs.mit.edu

> From: Nigel Williams > I have some Emulex SD590 drives which require a controller like the DEC > KDA50-Q (M7164+M7165) or KDA50-QA. Can one really plug such drives into an Standard Disk Interconnect directly, or is the interface standard merely 'close'? (I don't know, merely raising the question.) > the KDA50-Q has a rather bad (show-stopper) bug that was fixed in later > revisions, detailed here: I'm not sure that's a fatal issue; maybe it just causes the controller to have to re-read that last block? One could certainly write a hack work-around (re-read, extending the transfer size one block). > I need either revision D1 or D2 of the M7164 module. What should I be > looking for on the board that would indicate it has had the FCO > applied? Generally DEC indicates the ECO level by a stamp or something similar on the module handle(s) on the back side. I looked at a couple of M7164/M7165 board pairs which I have (which seem to date, from the date codes on the ICs, to the '87-'88 timeframe - the ECO seems to be Apr '84); the M7165's were both B14, and the M7164's were F4 and J04 (I think - that was on a sticker in the right place, and I don't see anything else). > joined with the 40-pin and 50-pin cables) along with the cab-kit up for > sale The two short cables are pretty generic, from what I can see. Ground plane backing, but other than that, stock 40- and 50-pin flat cables. Those should be easy to make. The bigger issue is the cab-kit, which is almost unobtanium. There's a guy on eBay selling a bunch of NOS UDA50 board sets, which include a cab-kit, which is, I'm pretty sure, the same as the KDA50's - alas, the KDA50 User's Guide doesn't give the part number, so I can't be positive (the UDA-50 one is 70-18455-6K). Alas, he wants a ton of money... > Thanks Jay for getting cctalk back online, well done! Ditto! Noel

10 years, 1 month

cctalk Digest, Vol 1, Issue 4

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 15:22:28 +1100 > From: Nigel Williams <nw at retroComputingTasmania.com> > Subject: FCO for KDA50-Q? > > I have some Emulex SD590 drives which require a controller like the > DEC KDA50-Q (M7164+M7165) or KDA50-QA. > > I found a KDA50-Q controller on eBay, but also discovered that the > KDA50-Q has a rather bad (show-stopper) bug that was fixed in later > revisions, detailed here: > > http://deathrow.vistech.net/~cvisors/DEC94MDS/kda50dol.txt > > >From that description I understand I need either revision D1 or D2 of > the M7164 module. What should I be looking for on the board that would > indicate it has had the FCO applied? is it an option to re-program the > 6 PROMs that appear to be involved? > > Alternatively, if anyone has the two board set (M7164 and M7165 joined > with the 40-pin and 50-pin cables) along with the cab-kit up for sale > I would be interested in discussing further. > Nigel, I have a KDA50 board set that I plan to install in an 11/83. Unfortunately mine has the E101-E106 PROMs 23-078F6, 23-079F6, 23-080F6, 23-081F6, 23-082F6, 23-083F6. I am interested to find out how to implement the FCO. -- Michael Thompson

10 years, 1 month

Vintage UNIX computers/servers for SALE-auction

by janprunk＠gmail.com

Hello ! Vintage workstations and servers for sale/auction in Slovenia, Europe. Below is the list of hardware, if you are interested, please read the details regarding the sale terms at the end of the list. For anything else you wish to know, please direct all questions regarding equipment to E-mail janprunk-at-gmail.com and not to the mailing list. 3 x HP 712 1 x Switch Hubstack JEHI-24 1 x Power Macintosh 7500/100 2 x SUN Sparcstation 4 1 x HP 9000 PC-308 (XT) 1 x Digital DEC 3000 1 x HP Terminal (monitor) 700/96 1 x Digital DEC 2000 1 x HP 9000 E35 STATUS OF THE EQUIPMENT : Equipment is being sold AS IS, meaning there is no facility to test it ! Computers should be in a working condition, some were even used by me personally, but consider them being sold as a DEFECT, due to its age, limited skills and lack of my time to exclude warranty terms. I am able and willing to provide the photos of the exterior, but please don't ask me to open up the machines to photograph the interior or components, boot up the OS, test the condition etc. I can provide exact model and serial number if that will be helpfull to you. Some computers come with the original hard drive inside and some don't. AUCTION: You are welcome to bid prices for this equipment. To limit the sale to serious bidders, I will only consider bids above 100 EUR per computer, if there are more bids for the same computer I will consider the highest offer. I haven't placed the equipment on EBAY at this time, because that would make me obligated to ship the computers even with a 1 EUR bidding win price and that would just mean too much work and no pay for me. PAYMENT: I am able to accept bank wire as a preferred method, cash or cheque, cryptocurrencies, such as Bitcoin but I am unhappy to accept Paypal due to its refundment policy which always sticks with the buyer. SHIPPING: I would prefer if you can do local pickup, however that might not be possible for people who don't live near Slovenia. I am willing to ship the equipment by mail, but be advised that Slovenia foreign parcel shipping is very expenssive so it wouldn't cost less than 80 EUR to ship the computer across Europe, due to its weight and dimensions. Shipping outside Europe would probably even double the amount, but if you are a serious collector I will also consider that option if you are willing to pay for shipping. I might have the accessories for computers - keyboards, cabling ... but consider the workstations being sold without that, as shipping the workstation + keyboard can be a problem, due to different dimensions and it would need to be packaged into two separate packages, therefore doubling the shipping costs aswell. ADDITIONALS: Keep in mind that bids below 100 EUR would just mean too much work for me to organise the shipment so I would rather not deal with it. I hope that the computers can find a new home with some other collector. For anything else you wish to know, please direct all questions regarding equipment to E-mail janprunk-at-gmail.com and not to the mailing list. I wish you all a happy bidding ! Kind regards, Jan Prunk PGP Pubkey http://prunk.si/0x00E80E86.asc

10 years, 1 month

Small change in mailing headers

by mcinnisg＠bellsouth.net

Thanks for getting the list going again. Probably not a big deal, but the 'Sender' header now has quotes around the string 'cctalk' and required a slight tweak to my procmail rules. Steve --

10 years, 1 month

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