test-drb April 2013

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Waste Management (the company) and vintage computers...

by jules.richardson99＠gmail.com

Anyone had any dealings with them in this regard? I expect that they run a lot of local landfill sites (at least here in the US, but I think they're a global company). I've got a contact at my local one who tries to set aside for me anything that they think I might find interesting, but management policy is that nothing can leave the site once dropped off, and it sounds like this rule will be more strictly enforced in a couple of weeks' time following a site audit. I was considering contacting their management to see if there's any way to officially secure vintage items, and was wondering if anyone else has done this successfully? (In particular, it would be nice to know ahead of time what their main concerns are - if it's a liability issue, say, or if they perhaps see monetary value in e-waste) cheers Jules

11 years, 6 months

Available S-100 PCBs

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi If you sent a PayPal for one of the S-100 PCBs and have *NOT* received an email confirming I've shipped your boards or the boards themselves PLEASE CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY! There has been an instance of a PayPal email either not arriving or getting lost. I don't know if this is a "one time" deal or part of a larger problem. Maybe its related to the general confusion and nuttiness happening in the US over the last few days. Whatever the problem is I need to know right away. If you've paid for a PCB, it will be shipped or you'll get a refund. No exceptions! Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Lynch [mailto:LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:31 PM > To: n8vem-s100 at googlegroups.com > Cc: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Available S-100 PCBs > > Hi, an update on available S-100 board PCBs > > Good news!? There are several new and reordered S-100 PCBs available! > > The S-100 68K CPU boards finally came in so there are about 5 available. > > There are 25 of the S-100 IDE V2 reorder PCBs and 6 of the new S-100 bus > terminator/prototyping board PCBs. > > There are 4 of the S-100 LAVA PCBs available. > > http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/68000%20Board/68K%2 > 0CPU%20Board.htm > > http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/IDE%20Board/My%20I > DE%20Card.htm > > http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder&param=S- > 100%20bus%20terminator > > http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/Lava- > 10%20Board/LAVA-10%20Board.htm > > The S-100 PCBs cost the same as before ($20 each).? However due to > unforeseen extreme price increases in shipping by USPS I am forced to > change shipping costs. > > Shipping in the US will be $3 for a single PCB and $2 for each additional > PCB.? Shipping internationally will be $10 for a single PCB and $3 for each > additional PCB.? This is for the bare basics USPS first class postage with no > tracking or insurance.? The builder assumes all risk of delivery as per usual > arrangement. > > I apologize for the large price increase on shipping but this is out of my > hands.? The USPS is in dire financial trouble and is raising prices on shipping.? It > affects us all and is most unfortunate.? These boards are provided "at cost" so > there is no margin to absorb any shipping price increases.? I have to pass > them along. > > If you would like one or more S-100 PCBs please send a PayPal to > LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM > > Thanks and have a nice day! > > Andrew Lynch > > PS, if you would like to help out this all-volunteer project please get one or > more of the S-100 LAVA PCBs. These PCBs are the oldest ones and them > sitting around on a shelf does no one any good. I?d like these to go to a > hobbyist who would get some enjoyment from these fun to build and use > boards. Thanks in advance. I truly appreciate everyone's support in moving > these remaining boards. You make this hobbyist home brew project > possible.

11 years, 6 months

The ten SEXIEST computers of ALL TIME * The Register

by oltmansg＠gmail.com

There's some questionable choices on there... The Sinclair entries... and the biggest of all... PS3? It's not even a proper computer. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > At 8:31 PM +0200 4/9/13, MG wrote: > >> The Cray is the only one I marginally agree with, but the paupers >> didn't even mention /one/ SGI. How the hell is that possible? >> Even their saint Steve Jobs spoke well of SGI, very well actually. >> > > Who remembers SGI? When I wrote my previous email, even I forgot them. :-( > > The Octane, O2, and Tezro should all be on the list! :-) Maybe Sun's > SunBlade 1000 as well. > > Zane > > > > > -- > | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | > | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | > | | Photographer | > +-----------------------------**-----+------------------------**----+ > | My flickr Photostream | > | http://www.flickr.com/photos/**33848088 at N03/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/> | > | My Photography Website | > | http://www.zanesphotography.**com<http://www.zanesphotography.com> | > >

11 years, 6 months

8mm Movie to Digital Service? (was: Re: Computing the old way - Is it a thing of the past?)

by bobvines00＠gmail.com

> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 05:59:23 -0500 > From: John Foust <jfoust at threedee.com> > To: <cctech at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Computing the old way - Is it a thing of the past? > Some processes are better today. I recently had some old (1940s to '70s) > 8 mm family movies scanned digitally. > > The service cleans the film and uses a wet-gate process to reduce scratches. > They scan each frame digitally at HD resolution (1920 x 1080) using > even LED illumination. They scan the entire film edge-to-edge. Many > old cameras exposed the entire width of the film while the projector > only showed the majority of the middle, so you see more image than > ever before. I asked for a digital movie file for editing, so I sent > them a hard drive. The results are astoundingly dramatically better > from what you got from an old projector. No playback jitter > from worn sprocket holes. Bright, even illumination. > > It's far better than the film-to-VHS transfer I paid for in the early 90s. > (Private YouTube example links available on request.) All this for a > dime or two per foot. I'll be able to edit digitally and provide > family members with DVD or Bluray copies. > > The same is true for restoration and duplication of old family > photographs. With a digital process, you can undo damage and > easily multiply copies. > > As with the classic computer avocation, it can come with regrets, too. > I wish I would've rescued 1930s family films from a distant cousin > who passed away a decade ago. I had a VHS copy of some of his films, > but not the originals. > > - John John, Which "film to digital" service did you use? I have a box of 8mm family videos taken in the '60s-'70s that I would really like to save. It sounds like you are very happy with the results. Please contact me offline if you don't want to publically advertise the service. Thanks, Bob

11 years, 6 months

MIT Flea

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

For the people on this list that attend the MIT Flea: This Sunday's show has been cancelled. -- Will

11 years, 6 months

DEC M7522 card (RUX50: RX50 for Unibus)

by pbirkel＠gmail.com

All; I've made a bit of progress in my quest, having serendipitously acquired a DEC M7522 card (RUX50: RX50 for Unibus) as part of a pile-of-parts. It has two obvious problems. 1. A 0.6"-wide 40-pin socketed DIP that is top-center on the board has been trashed (literally, the top scraped off and the die exposed!). (The socketed 82S105 just below it mid-board is just fine.) The ruined chip appears to be a CPU; what is it really? Maybe a T-11? (The FD1796 is somewhat to its right -- midway to the Berg connector, soldered-down, and looks just fine!) 2. A pair of 0.6"-wide 28-pin socketed (presumed) EPROMs (mid-left on the board, next to a pair of HM6264P-15) are missing. What are/were these (type, speed)? The board otherwise looks absolutely perfect, excepting damage to some of the handles. I'm still having no luck finding any documentation for this board; a printset is especially desired. I throw myself onto the good graces of the community to examine that M7522 card that you have in your system (or on your shelf) in order to verify what the apparent-CPU is/was, the EPROM-type/speed (2764? 150ns?), and to either point me to a copy of the EPROM contents for the chip-pair or graciously offer to extract a copy of yours :->. I'd be happy to send some blanks if you have the means to make copies. A quality scan of an intact board would be a helpful start on the chips. Thank you, very much! paul

11 years, 6 months

Last chance on Local Pickup machines in Flushing MI

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 22:12:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Mouse <mouse at Rodents-Montreal.ORG> >> If someone owns something, then it is theirs to dispose of in any way >> they wish. That is what private property is all about. > Legally, yes. But there is a large difference between "legal" and "good", > or even "legal" and "not scummy". Just because someone has a legal right > to do something doesn't mean that doing it it shouldn't draw censure. ... > I will think less of such a person and quite likely refuse to sell to, > help on the lists, buy from, etc, said person... I happen to think that I not only have a legal right to choose what to do with what most people would consider worthless junk, but that it's really none of your business. But your censure doesn't bother me one bit, and your turning a *Goodwill donation* of fairly common junk into 'dissecting an ASR33 into party favors' just tells me something about trying to discuss something with you... I used to think that when I get rid of something people would appreciate a heads-up before I scrap it, but knowing that you and perhaps others will on principle "refuse to ...buy from" me (thereby *increasing* the likelihood that it'll end up as scrap) and not wanting to get your (and others') underwear in a knot, I just don't bother any more to offer things that have a poor chance of selling before I scrap them (as I have done with dozens of large/heavy systems including several Cromemcos, VG, etc.). >> If you think that such things are precious and need to be protected, > If you don't, what are you on this list for? Considering the OT and childish/judgemental/argumentative/insulting crap that I have to wade through these days I've been asking myself that very question more and more lately... I dunno, I thought perhaps someone might be able to use a part from those systems I've scrapped, or maybe some of the obscure software filling my shelves, or even some useful knowledge from my 40+ years in the field, but no, I don't think that any of the systems in question are particularly precious or rare nor do they need to be "protected"; there are lots of IBM 5150s out there including three rusting in my basement. Some people just want to own them and get upset because they can't for whatever reason... >> then do something about it. Buy them yourself. [...] Anything. >> Just don't go bitching to the mailing list and then expect someone else >> to do it for you. I agree completely; instead of bitching, appreciate that it's being offered at all instead of going straight to Goodwill/scrap/the dump! If you want it then buy it; if you don't and no one else wants it either then it's obviously not worth very much... m

11 years, 6 months

Last chance on Local Pickup machines in Flushing MI

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 21:20:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Last chance on Local Pickup machines in Flushing MI On Fri, 19 Apr 2013, Richard wrote: > Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net> writes: > >>> [Since others won't know why Richard made this remark, > >> Apparently even you don't know why I made this remark. I make this >> remark now because you said the above, on the 19th of April. >> The rest of your message I'm not going to respond to because it has >> nothing to do with my my remark quoted above. > Well folks, I've tried to resolve this with Richard both on and off-list since September of last year, and given the response above I guess any further attempts would be a waste of time. You're right; despite Richard's attempts to explain you seem unable to grasp that this is not about you or any imagined or real exchanges last year, so it would presumably indeed be a waste of time. I happen to agree completely with what Richard said and was about to say so myself when I read his post, and I don't recall any discussion with you last September or any other time for that matter... m

11 years, 6 months

RX11/12 available in Canberra

by doug＠dougswordclock.com

Hi cctalk list! I was wondering if there is anybody in either Canberra or Sydney Australia who has some old DEC hardware that is in need of a new home. I have a PDP11/34 system that would love a RX11 or RX12, so I was looking for a set of drives and a M7846 board for them to plug into. I have a Dick Smith System 80 that I would happily swap :-) -- Doug Jackson DougsWordClocks 35 Fred Lane Crescent, Gordon, ACT, 2906 Australia http://www.dougswordclock.com/

11 years, 6 months

DEC BA350 etc and RZxx-xx drives

by useddec＠gmail.com

I have about 25 BA350 style enclosures, BA35x power supplies, and RZ24,25,26, 28,29,40, etc. Some are in canisters, some are bare drives. I'm trying to clear a path and it's all in my way. Take one or all. shipping from IL, 61853. Please contact me off list Thanks, Paul

11 years, 6 months

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test-drb April 2013