test-drb March 2013

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by cclist＠sydex.com

I know this has probably been addressed at some time in the past, but I'm still bedaferated. Why is it that Allison's response to Enrico's CP/M query arrived at my ISP's mailserver on March 11, at 19.18.10 and Enrico's original mail arrived on March 12 at 00.26.08? Is Allison really prescient? Does the order that posts arrive in my email have anything to do with the order in which they were sent? Just curious, not really pitching about it. --Chuck

11 years, 4 months

Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:34 PM PDT Fred Cisin wrote: >"There are three things I have learned never to discuss with people: >religion, politics, and the Great Pumpkin." -Linus >(but not Torvalds. That's a RELIGION) The actual adage was undoubtedly invented by someone that wanted to shut down legitimate discussion. People don't want to be challenged, don't want to change (intrinsic in that is to be shown they're wrong), don't want their ideas challenged by facts. Let's just agree not to talk about Microsoft though, because they are like a god to me.

11 years, 4 months

Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 1:04 PM PDT geneb wrote: >On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: > >> On 03/12/2013 03:24 PM, David Riley wrote: >>> As for other, less-fundamentalist religious people... well, according >>> to a number of leading figures from various religions, because I do >>> not share their myth, I am less than human: >>> >>> ...and all this has exactly NOTHING to do with vintage computers, so please, ALL OF YOU, go fight somewhere else. >> >> Better said than I could have. The only religions we need to talk >> about here are those of DEC, IBM, HP and a few others. We can all >> be polytheists when it comes to our electric sand. >> >> EMACS!!! >> >WordStar > > >Non-Document Mode. > > >Biatch. > >g. Can I be one of them too Genie?? Can I be that kind of pal to you just like Davey? You big strapping Great White Northern Top Gunner you! (And *if* that doesn't sound gay to you, there's something wrong...) > >-- >Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 >http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. >Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > >ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment >A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. >http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

11 years, 4 months

Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 12:55 PM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: >On 03/12/2013 03:25 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >>> I have communicated privately with "Chris Tofu". I know him to be >>> a nasty, bigoted, hate-filled fundamentalist - and really very >>> stupid to boot. So all I wish to do is shut him up. >> >> >> Oddly enough, that perfectly describes both my assessment of and my >> desire concerning you. >> >> Please stop rationalizing your bigoted spew and shut the fuck up. >> >> >> Doc >> >> I mean really. I did approach him in a friendly manner, for the >> purpose of engaging in friendly debate. And it would seem he just >> couldn't handle it. I cannot understand why the discussion turned so >> vitriolic. I'll extend the olive branch once more, and even apologize >> fully for earlier comments. But like doc said you really need to shut >> that little trap once in a while Liam. > > There goes Chris, "extending his 'olive branch'" again. > > ("So THAT'S what they're calling it now!") > > -Dave > >-- >Dave McGuire, AK4HZ >New Kensington, PA Please. Don't give them any ideas... AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN LITTLE!!!

11 years, 4 months

5151 needed...

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

I'm looking to find a good, working IBM 5151 monochrome display and a PC/XT keyboard for a restoration I'd like to finish. If you've got one or both, please contact me off list. Thanks! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!

11 years, 4 months

Xerox 820-II & external FDC

by rrissell＠gmail.com

On 3/11/2013 11:37 AM, Enrico Lazzerini wrote: > > Hi, I received a Xerox 820-II mainboard. I've found that does not have a > FDC > > on board and that the 37-pin connector used to connect the floppy disk it > > seems to have a bus and its own protocol to talk to an external FDC board > > outside. Is there anybody who knows more and is it there a way to try to > > connect and operate the drive with this mainboard? > > > > Having cleaned the heads, about every other disk going through a box of > 8" 820 disk, sthere is nothing in the drive other than the drives and a > power supply. I am not sure if the 820-II is different but, I doubt it. > The cable just splits off to each drive. Everything is on the mainboard. > Years ago I had a 820-II with both the 8086 daughter board and a drive case with 8" floppy and HD (All of 3MB). As I recall the protocol was SASI (hence the heavily-shielded 37-pin cable).

11 years, 4 months

Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:49 AM PDT Mike Loewen wrote: >On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Liam Proven wrote: > >> As for other, less-fundamentalist religious people... well, according >> to a number of leading figures from various religions, because I do >> not share their myth, I am less than human: > > ...and all this has exactly NOTHING to do with vintage computers, so please, ALL OF YOU, go fight somewhere else. I happen to agree Mike. But some people can't refrain from complaining about every little thing. Incidentally I found myself a bit perturbed over the long drawn out discussion of slide rules, was tempted to say something once or twice, but kept my mouth shut. But others... >Mike Loewen mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us >Old Technology http://sturgeon.css.psu.edu/~mloewen/Oldtech/

11 years, 4 months

Forget UPS was Re: Shipping Heavy/Large Items Via UPS

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 11:00 AM PDT Dave McGuire wrote: >On 03/12/2013 01:48 PM, Liam Proven wrote: >> On 12 March 2013 17:19, Mouse <mouse at rodents-montreal.org> wrote: >>> Also Home Depot and Lowes, though Lowes insist on being homos lately. >> >> "homos"? I'm having trouble thinking what that could possibly mean >> here; none of the meanings I've come up with make sense in this context. >> >> It's hate-speech. Short for "homosexual" and used as a generic insult. >> His excuse being that his magic sky-pixie tells him to hate gay >> people, making both him and his religion loathsome. > > I have the same magic sky-pixie. Said sky-pixie doesn't tell ME to >hate gay people. Hating gay people is about PEOPLE, nothing more. Lots >of people use religion to justify all sorts of shitty behavior. > > BTW...Religion is not the same as belief. Personally, I have the >latter, but precisely ZERO of the former. > > So, please watch yourself, and your assumptions. "Homos" is no more >"hate speech" than "magic sky-pixie", etc. > > -Dave Uh boy I was hoping this wouldn't continue. But certain drama queens refuse to let a meaningless litle comment go unpunished. sniff. Let's examine this hatred for just a moment. Would a "hater" call up a NATIONAL radio show, and proclaim TO THE NATION that I thought it was unfair for Adam Smith to be discharged from his position after that little escapade at a drive through. ONLY AFTER stating I was FURTHER TO THE RIGHT on the issue of gay "rights", gay "marriage", and gay acts (ewww) in general. I don't tolerate, accept, nor celebrate deviant behavior, but I can be fair to people at the same time. So that is the extant of my hatred for homos. And speaking of little FAGGOTS - in this context grown men who insist on acting like prissy little girls, Liam you are now officially A LIAR. What happened to all this talk of ignoring my posts??? Seemingly you can't wait for me to post something. I'm kind of feeling stalked at this point.

11 years, 4 months

Price estimate on Altair 680b enclosure Optima ES case

by rwhyre+cctalk＠picrad.com

I'm looking for an enclosure for a vintage-style computer, and I'm hoping to get an estimate for the Optima ES case used for the Altair 680b, among other things. Has anyone on the list ordered one of these recently?

11 years, 4 months

Flextra BR-3020 or BR-3225 25/50MB Floppy Drive

by robin＠hx-20.com

Does anyone have a Brier Technology BR-3020 or BR-3225 high capacity floppy drive I could borrow please? Thanks Robin

11 years, 4 months

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