test-drb January 2013

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by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message ----- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:28:30 -0500 From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> On 01/29/2013 11:13 PM, mc68010 wrote: > On 1/29/2013 7:36 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: >> On 01/29/2013 07:37 PM, mc68010 wrote: >>> A 1552 just showed up on the seller selling all Sellam's gear it just so >>> happens. >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extremely-Rare-Vintage-Hazeltine-1552-Computer-4DTD… >>> >> "This listing has been removed, or this item is not available." >> >> I can only hope that this means "good news" for Sellam. >> > Something probably got cut off. Probably on me. Anyway it is still there. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/230920559966 > > Item 230920559966 Crap. :-( -Dave ----- Reply: Guess it'd be better if it didn't sell and got scrapped, as long as those heinous thieves didn't make any money? Exactly what is gained by folks on this and a few other lists not bidding on these items as Sellam demanded, other than keeping prices low for everyone else (a good thing, for them) and increasing the likelihood that they don't sell and get scrapped instead (a bad thing IMO) ? He lost my sympathy when he threatened to sue anyone in this community (that has been so supportive over the years) if they bought any of his items. Ironically, in the extremely unlikely event that he got back the money made >from selling his stuff then the folks in this community would actually probably be the _most_ likely to be willing to sell it back to him... m

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New Houses [Was: Re: What is big iron?]

by barythrin＠gmail.com

Very impressive Pontus! A raised floor garage.. Something we all can envy. Henk, did you send pics that I missed somewhere or was that your comment that they'll come when you can lift a camera again?

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Looking for Appendix to HP 3.5" disc drive service manual (disc commands)

by john_a_s2004＠hotmail.com

Hi, In the discussion on HP LIF disks and bad sectors, I was pointed towards the 9895A service manual and its?description?of initializing floppies, marking 'bad tracks', and bad sectors. I have the 82901M 5.25" and 9121 3.5" drives, so have had a look in their service manuals for similar descriptions, in case there were any differences or further nuggets of information. The 82901 manual said very little on the topic, but the manual for the 9121 (covering several 3.5" drives) shows in the contents that Appendix A describes the command set. I had a look at the scanned version: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/hp/disc/09121-90030_3_Inch_Flexible_… and copied here: http://hpmuseum.net/exhibit.php?hwdoc=288 but Appendix A is missing, does anyone have a link or a scanned copy please? Regards, John

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The VCFSE 1.0

by david＠classiccomputing.com

Everyone, We have finalized the show dates for the Vintage Computer Festival Southeast 1.0 and now it will be over two days - Saturday & Sunday, April 20 & 21, 2013. I will have a press release soon and we have some very nice things planned. I hope some of you can attend the show! Best, David Greelish - Computer Historian, Writer, Podcaster & Speaker - Founder of the Atlanta Historical Computing Society Producer of the Vintage Computer Festival Southeast 1.0 - 4/20 & 4/21, 2013 http://about.me/davidgreelish

11 years, 11 months

Wiki? What? Why?

by RichA＠vulcan.com

From: John Wilson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 10:12 PM > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:26:08AM -0500, Toby Thain wrote: >>> (Assuming you don't count the :INFO system at MIT, which came much >>> earlier.) >> Is it a wiki? > Editable by anyone ... cross-machine links (over the network file > system -- I think it was called MLDEV?) ... what else would it need? Wankers who remove edits by people who know what they're talking about? Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

11 years, 11 months

CRT monitor for SUN 3/140

by shutchman＠gmail.com

I have been through 3 CRT monitors that died ( circa 1989) that were attached to a SUN 3/140 station. The monitors are SUN Model M19P114 part no 365-1051-01. The pin out on the 3/140 is 1-VIDEO+ 2-GND 3-HSYNC 4-VSYNC 5-NC 6-VIDEO- 7 GND 8-GND 9-GND VIDEO+ and VIDEO- are ECL levels , and HSYNC and VSYNC are TTL levels. I believe it is EGA monochrome. I am not sure if this SUN has non standard ( proprietary) output for video. Is there anyone that knows a way to connect this SUN to a standard LCD VGA monitor using some kind of video converter or by using a multi-sync monitor ? Hutch

11 years, 11 months

What is big iron?

by seefriek＠gmail.com

On 01/29/2013 02:23 AM, Pontus wrote: > Hmm, I though a VAX of 11/780 size qualified as big iron. If not, what > does? It's a trap! Trick question intended to see who can be the most insufferable ass furiously defending an opinion unsupportable by objective fact. The competition is, as always, tediously predictable. The game is re-staged here at least twice a year, so that the pendant pecking order can be reaffirmed.

11 years, 11 months

Benchmark Modula-2 for Amiga, Avante-Garde Software

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

Hi folks, Does anyone have a copy of Benchmark Modula-2 for the Amiga, released around 1986, they could let me have a copy of. I bought the software to help me with a second year University Programming and Algorithms course and wrote my final year project a 'Meta Assembler' in it and would love to get that working again. I still have the manual (I have no idea when the disks were lost but I suspect they succumed to mold) and am seriously considering scanning it for the community, but this seems a bit of a waste of time unless the software is not unobtainium. Many thanks for the help, Mark.

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What is big iron?

by RichA＠vulcan.com

From: microcode at zoho.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:22 AM > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:08:11AM -0500, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: >> In the former case the TOAD-1 is most definitely "big iron" as it is >> a descendant of the KL-10, which is most assuredly a mainframe. > DEC never made a mainframe and nobody from DEC ever asserted they did > AFAIK. It's odd to see posts claiming DEC made mainframes or that VAX > is big iron from a group where calling a DE9 a DB9 produces a > 500-thread post ;-) You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The PDP-6/PDP-10 family of 36-bit systems was clearly mainframe big iron, with a physical memory space larger and performance better than a 360/50. Further, in 1989, the VAX 9000 was introduced to the world as "Digital's First Mainframe" (at which the PDP-10 customers laughed derisively). > Stop the hysterical revisionism. DEC made minis. Minis are not big > iron. Agreed. DEC made minis, which are not big iron. The revisionism on your part is in claiming that DEC did not make mainframes. Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

11 years, 11 months

Outbound Notebook battery

by derschjo＠gmail.com

Hi all -- Snagged an Outbound Notebook (Series 200) this week. The Outbound is aMacintosh clone laptop, mine came with ROMs borrowed from a Mac Plus, 4mb of RAM and a 50Mhz 68030 CPU. From what I've read it uses "standard camcorder batteries" but I have absolutely noidea what this "standard" might be. Anyone know anything about these beasts? I'm also going to need to track down an AC adapter but that should be easier to source, it's 22VDC @ .82A according to the rear of the machine... Thanks, Josh

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test-drb January 2013