July 2012 - test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org

by silent700＠gmail.com

Anyone here going? I'll be landing in LV tomorrow afternoon. I haven't seen any word whether they're doing the great "Retro Room" PDP display again. I never made it there to see it in person. Anything else classiccmp-related that is worth seeing in Las Vegas? -jht -- silent700.blogspot.com Retrocomputing and collecting in the Chicago area: http://chiclassiccomp.org

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Looking for DEC VK100 'GIGI' Maintenance print sheets

by jgevaryahu＠gmail.com

Does anyone have a copy of the DEC VK100 'GIGI' Maintenance print sheet set? The mp sheets are DEC part number #MP-00893-00 These are needed for repairing a VK100 and for a project reverse-engineering how the hardware worked. The Tech manual on bitsavers ( http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal/gigi/EK-VK100-TM-001_VK100_Techni… ) is missing a lot of information I need, and is also rife with errors! I'd be more than willing to scan or photocopy them if anyone has a copy they could lend me. Am fine paying shipping. -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu at gmail.com jgevaryahu at hotmail.com

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iPad, was Re: NRI 832 Clock Not Working

by joachim.thiemann＠gmail.com

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> Sent from my iPad > > Why does anyone need ot know this? > > -tony It's code for: "Forgive me if this message is more lucid than my usual communication. I've typed it on a device with slightly less tactile feedback than a Sinclair ZX-81, and the gnomes inside are drunk, attempting to subtly replace any misspelt word with lewd innuendos as offensive as possible in the given context." Joe. (Sent using a device which was clearly created on a dare: "Yo Steve, I bet not even you can market that silly wireless chicklet keyboard that the PC JR shipped with!" "Oh yeah? Watch my Reality Distortion Field!" <zooooooong>) (And it's actually quite useable, thank you very much...) -- Joachim Thiemann :: http://jthiem.bitbucket.org

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iPad, was Re: NRI 832 Clock Not Working

by a50mhzham＠gmail.com

At 04:41 PM 7/24/2012, you wrote: >On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > >> Sent from my iPad > > > > Why does anyone need ot know this? > > > > -tony > >It's code for: > >"Forgive me if this message is more lucid than my usual communication. While your post is amusing and witty, I think perhaps you meant "less lucid." From wiktionary.org: Etymology Latin <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lucidus#Latin>lucidus, >from <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lux#Latin>lux (?light?) + <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-id>-id. Adjective lucid (<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#comparative>comparative more lucid, <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary#superlative>superlative most lucid) * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/clear>clear; <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/easily>easily <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/understood>understood * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mentally>mentally <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rational>rational; <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sane>sane * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bright>bright, <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/luminous>luminous, <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/translucent>translucent or <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transparent>transparent Synonyms * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/clear>clear * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/coherent>coherent * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fluent>fluent * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pellucid>pellucid * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/perspicuous>perspicuous * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/straightforward>straightforward * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/see-through>see-through * <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transparent>transparent Sent from my generic home-built AMD based desktop PC. 604 . [Science] In the pure and physical sciences each generation inherits the consequences made by its predecessors, but in the moral sciences, particularly the arts of administration, the ground seems never to be incontestably won. --Unknown NEW: a50mhzham at gmail.com ? N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) ? Second Tops (Set Dancing) ? FIND ME ON FACEBOOK 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W ? Elevation 815' ? Grid Square EN53wc LAN/Telecom Analyst ? Open-source Dude ? Musician ? Registered Linux User 385531

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Serial Connection for UVax II with H8571-B

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net> wrote: >On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Kevin Reynolds wrote: > >> Hey guys and gals, >> >> I have tried and failed to get a successful connection between my uvax >> II and a pc rs-232 serial port. The H8751-B didn't seem to work, so I >> pulled it off and wired my own MMJ-DB9 connector. I have tested the MMJ >> cable, and it works flawlessly. >> >> For my connectors I have followed "The Cable" documentation at >> http://www.mcmanis.com/chuck/computers/vaxen/panels.htm (chucks house of >> vax), under "The MicroVAX II" section but it hasn't helped. I have >> tested the MMJ-DB9 connection from my uvax III consoles and from the >> microvax 3100 and it works fine, so I think the PC side is working >> correctly. > >The pinout for the cable at Chuck's House of VAX is correct. I just opened >up the connector shells on my own cable which I assembled more than 10 >years ago and verified that it matches the information given there. > >Your other option would be to use a H8571-B on the VAX side connected with >an MMJ cable to a H8571-J (or equiv.) on the PC side. While the two >adapters are both DE-9, the pinouts for each are very different. > >I've used both solutions for my own systems, and I used to make and sell >H8571-J "work alike" adapter cables on eBay (DE-9F adapter with crimpped >pins to 6P6C jack, wired the same as a H8571-H, along with a 6P6C to MMJ >modular cable; I sold 100s of those things). > >If you'd rather not butcher an MMJ cable, I'd suggest finding an H8571-J >adapter (useful with an MMJ cable for many other purposes as well). If >someone else can't supply you with a second hand H8571-J, I do still have >some NOS inventory (still in the original DEC bags) stored away (but not >/too/ difficult to get to) but I paid a good bit for them so I can't just >give those away.

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Looking for DEC VK100 'GIGI' Maintenance print sheets

by jgevaryahu＠gmail.com

> On 7/23/12 1:12 PM, Richard wrote: >> In article<500BAEE9.2090102 at gmail.com>, >> Jonathan Gevaryahu<jgevaryahu at gmail.com> writes: >> >>> The Tech manual on bitsavers ( >>> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal/gigi/EK-VK100-TM-001_VK100_Techni… >> l_Manual_Apr82.pdf >>> ) is missing a lot of information I need, and is also rife with errors! >> It would be good to have an errata to the technical manual. Can you >> email up a list of the errors you've spotted so far? > that would be a good thing > > GIGI documentation is very hard to find. I'm working on a list of errata (which are currently just pencil notes on a printout of the tech manual), I'll post it when I'm done. -- Jonathan Gevaryahu jgevaryahu at gmail.com jgevaryahu at hotmail.com

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Unibus termination

by iamcamiel＠gmail.com

Hi Everyone, I'm looking for a decent primer on Unibus termination. I'm a little confused about M9300, M9301, M9302 and M9312. Which is to be used where? Camiel.

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Ready to Power up the 11/04

by jaquinn2001＠gmail.com

I have the power supply tested and reassembled and am ready to power up the 11/04. I am looking to limit the number of installed boards initially. Certainly the RK05 controller boards can go as I haven't got the drives operational yet. The configuration of the 11/04 as I received it is as follows (hopefully this is readable): M7257 M7257 M9302 M7256 M7256 - M7255 M7255 - M7254 M7254 M920 M7258 M7258 M920 M7856 M7856 - M7860 M7860 - GRANT M9202 GRANT M9202 M7856 M7856 M7850 GRANT M7847 M7847 M7847 GRANT M7847 M7847 M7847 M7859 M7859 M9301 GRANT M7263 M7263 M7263 Looking for some guidance if the following is a valid configuration: GRANT M9302 M7856 M7856 M7850 GRANT M7847 M7847 M7847 GRANT M7847 M7847 M7847 M7859 M7859 M9301 GRANT M7263 M7263 M7263 I am also looking to confirm my understanding of the M9301 card. I have read the maintenance and operators manual for the M9301. I think it is saying that the Console Emulator startup message from the M9301 and the console emulator commands will be available on the terminal... which I take to mean the terminal connected to the M7856 in this machine. Am I understanding that right. Thanks everyone for your help. Regards Andrew

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C32AX135 or equivalent?

by lists＠loomcom.com

Does anyone happen to have a datasheet for the C32AX135 silicon controlled rectifier? Or know of a suitable equivalent? Thanks, -Seth

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Tek 611

by holm＠freibergnet.de

I shot an Tek 611 Storage display lately (230820230720), is there documentaion available somewhere? Has someone a left over D/A converter Card for an QBUS 11? I've found a pdf for an AA11-K card which should be connected to such a display but this is a unibus card it seems.. I only have QBUS-gear. Regards, Holm -- Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe, Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583 www.tsht.de, info at tsht.de, Fax +49 3731 74200, Mobil: 0172 8790 741

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Serial Connection for UVax II with H8571-B

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> >I have tried and failed to get a successful connection between my uvax II and > a pc rs-232 serial port. The H8751-B didn't seem to work, so I pulled it of >f and wired my own MMJ-DB9 connector. I have tested the MMJ cable, and it >works flawlessly. > >[snip] > I didn't really follow your description of what you have tried. I suspect the DE9 connector you have is not wired for plugging into a pc serial port but is intended for a DE9 connector on some DEC equipment which is wired differently (a VAX 2000 for example). My suggestion for an MMJ to other serial device connection is as follows: Cut an MMJ to MMJ cable in two. Take one end and strip off a bit of the outer insulation. Strip back the two centre conductors and join them together and to signal ground on the pc side. Strip back the next two outer conductors and connect one to TX on the pc and the other to RX on the pc. Ignore the two outer conductors. Plug in and test. If it doesn't work, swap the conductors going to TX and RX and try again. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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Anybody have 1991 BYTE scans?

by microcode＠zoho.com

Does anybody have scans of the 1991 BYTE magazine? I'd like to get copies if you have them. Thank you.

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XT-IDE V2 PCBs

by LYNCHAJ＠yahoo.com

Hi! Several builders have asked about the XT-IDE V2 PCBs and I have reordered a batch. They should be here the second week of August. They will be identical to the previous batch of boards. I will announce when the PCBs arrive. Please do not send any funds until the boards arrive. They will be $12 each plus $2 shipping in the US and $5 shipping elsewhere. After I announce the boards have arrived please send a PayPal to LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM and I will send your boards right away! Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

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someone was looking for a Tandy 2000 k/b...

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

sometime ago when I offered a non-working unit. I have one, the only problem is it's missing the plastic "whistles", or at least that's what they resemble, that allow you to set it at an angle on a table. I don't think I have them anywhere unfortunately. If you're interested, as is, should work (it was my original!), 5$ plus shipping from 08758.

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GNT 4601 reader/punch documentation

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

Thanks Mike, Al, and Bob for the GNT information. That should be plenty to get repairs going. -- Michael Thompson

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N8 availability

by LYNCHAJ＠yahoo.com

Hi! Some of the N8VEM builders have gotten their N8's assembled and tested. They are working fairly well and the new SD circuitry seems to check out fine. There is a new MSX BIOS and CP/M ROM image posted and photos of one of the builds on the wiki. There is actually quite a bit of information and ongoing discussions on the N8VEM mailing list. Here is a sample photo one of about a dozen or so. http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/file/55421880/NS-2312_working_with_Floppy_DSK Y.JPG http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder&param=N8-2312%20Marti n%20Lukasek I still have some N8 PCBs so if anyone would like to build their own complete home brew computer from scratch please let me know. Please see the N8 description below for what it can do. http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/page/54039670/N8%20announcement Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

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DG Nova 3

by cc＠informatik.uni-stuttgart.de

Hi everyone, we have finally received our first Nova. It was installed in a classroom at a school where they taught some basics of computer science. They bought it new in 1978 and used it until 1986. All parts still look like new, no obvious yellowing or worn fronts. The system consists of the Nova 3/12 and 6050-2 cartridge disk drive in a 19" high-boy cabinet and two terminals, a Dasher 6042 printing terminal and a Dasher 6052-2 CRT terminal - both have a very cool design! Now to my question ;-) The system came with several cartridges (containing RDOS and BASIC, as far as I can tell), but *no* manuals. I haven't found any manual for our system components on the net (nothing on bitsavers, too). Does anyone have scans/images? I would need at least the Nova 3 printset and diagnostics (e.g. papertape images) in case it needs repair or maintenance. After all, even if the power supply and CPU seem to work, I'd like to be sure everything is ok after 26 years. (The former user, a teacher, didn't even know that you could dismantle the rack, nor did he ever pull out the CPU or the power cable from the rack...). Christian PS: Repairing the key switches in the terminal keyboards (disintegrated foam) is another story...

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Heathkit H89 maybe?

by dbetz＠xlisper.com

It looks like I'm back in business collecting vintage computers. I went to the town dump today and found what looks like an H89 but the model number tag on the back says NN89-29. I haven't tried opening it up to see what's inside yet but it has a floppy drive so I assume it isn't just a H19 terminal. Also, on the front it says "Heathkit Computer". Even though I've had vintage computers before I've never followed good procedures when trying to bring them up. Usually, I just plug in the power cord and hope for the best. I'd like to do a little better this time. Can anyone suggest an approach to bringing this beast to life that minimizes the chances that I'll fry it the first time I power it on? Thanks, David

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DG Nova 3

by cube1＠charter.net

I have some of what you may need, but will need to scan it in. I do not have a full print set - unlike Dec, those are more rare in the dg world. But I won't be able to do anything until mid august. Check bitsavers.org, and also contact wildharecomputers.com Christian Corti <cc at informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote: >Hi everyone, > >we have finally received our first Nova. It was installed in a classroom >at a school where they taught some basics of computer science. They bought >it new in 1978 and used it until 1986. All parts still look like new, no >obvious yellowing or worn fronts. The system consists of the Nova 3/12 and >6050-2 cartridge disk drive in a 19" high-boy cabinet and two terminals, a >Dasher 6042 printing terminal and a Dasher 6052-2 CRT terminal - both have >a very cool design! > Now to my question ;-) The system came with several cartridges >(containing RDOS and BASIC, as far as I can tell), but *no* manuals. I >haven't found any manual for our system components on the net (nothing on >bitsavers, too). Does anyone have scans/images? I would need at least the >Nova 3 printset and diagnostics (e.g. papertape images) in case it needs >repair or maintenance. After all, even if the power supply and CPU seem to >work, I'd like to be sure everything is ok after 26 years. (The former >user, a teacher, didn't even know that you could dismantle the rack, nor >did he ever pull out the CPU or the power cable from the rack...). > >Christian > >PS: >Repairing the key switches in the terminal keyboards (disintegrated >foam) is another story...

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Old scans of 73 magazine available

by microcode＠zoho.com

http://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3A73-magazine&sort=-publicda…

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GNT tech docs

by asc135＠gmail.com

> > This might be a second post, I got a weird error message the first time. > > > I just scanned my technical manual for the GNT 4604/5 which has many references to the 4601. > > It does include schematics. You can find it here: > > http://www.dvq.com/docs/GNT/ > > Bob > Many, many, many thanks! I bought a new-old-stock GNT-4604 about a decade ago. It was so exciting to open the foil seal and --- nothing worked. I did find the problem. It had cold solder joints on the control board. But having the service manual means I can keep it running for years to come. I also have a GNT-4601 so I'm doubly appreciative. Your work will not have been in vain! Amardeep

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Amiga for sale in OC , Ca

by jws＠jwsss.com

Not my listing, but close to my house if anyone is interested and needs help. http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/sys/3151437047.html

12 years, 11 months

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USB to GPIB interface

by elson＠pico-systems.com

Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:31:20 +0100 (BST) From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: USB to GPIB interface Message-ID: <m1SsgKj-000J4gC at p850ug1> Content-Type: text/plain It's of no real interet to me at the momnet (obivously) but this month's Elektor magazine (the summer double issue, so it's not cheap!) has a project to make a USB to GPIB interface. It's little more than a programemd PIC which directly drives the GPIB lines without buffers. I don't like that much, but... I think you can get source code for the firmware (apart from the USB routines, which are standard routins from Microchip). I have successfully controlled some GPIB gear with just a parallel port, not even a pullup resistor needed. Jon

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Serius/Victor 9000 printer port

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

With reference to my reply to Chuck's message, I've now dug out the schematics. The Sirius printer interface uses a 6522 VIA (at location U15L o nthe mainboard). Port A is bufferec by a 75160 and fet ot the data pins on the 'Centronics' connector. Port B is used for the handshake lines, in ascending bit order : DAV, EOI, REN, ATN, IFC, SRQ, NRFD, NDAC. Tese are bufferec by a 75161, always in controller mode (DC is grounds). NRFD and NDAC (o nthe 'host' side of the buffer) also go to CA1 and CA2 (respsecviely) of the VIA The 'Talk' (buffer direction) line is controlled by PB0 of the 'system VIA' at loccation U12L The pinout of the 'Centroics' socket is : DAV 1 19 Gnd D0 2 20 Gnd D1 3 21 Gnd D2 4 22 Gnd D3 5 23 Gnd D4 6 24 Gnd D5 7 25 Gnd D6 8 26 Gnd D7 9 27 Gnd NRFD 10 28 Gnd SRQ 11 29 Gnd N/C 12 30 N/C NDAC 13 31 N/C J 14 32 NDAC EOI 15 33 Gnd Gnd 16 34 REN FG 17 35 ATN NC 18 36 IFC A couple of non-obvious ones : 'J' (pin 14' is connected to ground via the jumper E26-E27 (which is not normally fitted I think). FG is frame ground (mains earth), not logic ground. I/O chips i nthe Sirius seem ot be memory mammed for some odd reason. I think the addresses are : GPIB VIA : 1110 1xxx xxx0 001x rrrr System VIA : 1110 1xxx xxx0 010x rrrr where rrrr is selexts the VIA register in the obvious order. -tony

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Apple ][ disk/game server

by legalize＠xmission.com

This is a nice idea! Feeds the disk images to your Apple ][ by hooking up your ipad/computer/etc. audio output to the cassette input. <http://asciiexpress.net/gameserver/> <http://asciiexpress.net/diskserver/> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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GNT 4601 reader/punch documentation

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

Does anyone have schematics for a GNT 4601 reader/punch? -- Michael Thompson

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Looking for Unibus and Qbus extender cards

by iamcamiel＠gmail.com

Hi everyone, I'm getting ready to see if I can get all those PDP-11's running properly. I have most of the test equipment I'm likely to meet - multimeter, oscilloscope, current tracer, logic analyzer - but figured that extender cards for Qbus and Unibus might come in very handy. Does anyone have any they'd be willing to part with? Camiel.

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TNIX 2.1

by aek＠bitsavers.org

I spotted a listing for the TNIX user manuals and a set of floppies in Tucker's manual list, so there is a standalone disk and a dump of the file system with the native tools package on bitsavers now, along with the manuals. The standalone formatter seems to be really fussy about what kind of disk it will format. I tried a Seagate ST4096 and a Maxtor 1140, and couldn't get either to go even though they had more heads and cylinders than the Micropolis 1304.

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USB to GPIB interface

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

It's of no real interet to me at the momnet (obivously) but this month's Elektor magazine (the summer double issue, so it's not cheap!) has a project to make a USB to GPIB interface. It's little more than a programemd PIC which directly drives the GPIB lines without buffers. I don't like that much, but... I think you can get source code for the firmware (apart from the USB routines, which are standard routins from Microchip). May be of interest to somebody here.... -tony

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Minigame Compo 2012 officially started (submit by Nov 30 2012)

by barythrin＠yahoo.com

Just spreading the word amongst a few of the groups that may have interest and talent in older and more efficient programming past. http://minigamecompo.weebly.com/index.html has begun and will be accepting submissions I believe until November 30th (2012). For those who aren't familiar this is a competition to write the best game they can in the category of under 1k, 2k, or 4k of code for various (usually 8-bit) platforms. They have some screen shots of previous programs that have competed to see what sort of stuff comes out of it. I always find it entertaining. I have no affiliation with them, just helping spread the word since I haven't seen it announced in my usual hangouts yet. - John

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Whereabouts of Arthur Gill

by vaxorcist＠googlemail.com

Is: Arthur Gill author of: "Machine and assembly language programming of the PDP-11" still alive? Anyone knows how to get in contact? Regards Ulli

12 years, 11 months

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pertec rk05 rack ebay listing :'( my F bomb alert. ran frustration

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

sigh theres a buisnes partner fight going on and i am caught in the midle GAH!!!!!!! to tune of 1300 bucks.......... something i paid for has been relisted under the partners new account sent him a msg unhappy don't bid http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Computer-Equipment-Pertec-T6840-9-45-U2-DEC… an ebay complaint has been filled and reported blah blah blah i have now got a paypal dispute finally txs to this re-listing and its pretty esay to prove its the same item the origonal listing i won from user uncolect whos sold me many things befor this happened and shipped them so i am upset wish he coulda phoned me i only left him my number half a dozen times......... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160748462238&ssPageName=… i feel like crying all i wanted was my rk05's and pertec god damit why did it have to come to this now what am i guna do with my pertect interface card i got :"(

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E&L Instruments Fox 1 Z80 Trainer chip questions

by INFATEC-Soellner＠t-online.de

Hello robo Are you still interested in information about FOX MT80? I could provide You with original manual and schematics. With best regards Heinrich ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ INFATEC Ingenieurb?ro f?r Automatisierungstechnik GmbH Leo-Rosenblatt-Weg 2b D-30453 Hannover Heinrich S?llner Telefon +49 (0) 511/8094048 Telefax +49 (0) 511/8092310 home <http://www.infatec-gmbh.com/> www.infatec-gmbh.com E-Mail <mailto:INFATEC-Klebl at t-online.de> INFATEC-Soellner at t-online.de Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Rolf Klebl Sitz der Gesellschaft: Hannover Registergericht: Hannover HRB 54 193 Hannoversche Volksbank 4813 499 600 (BLZ 251 900 01) ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ DIESE EMAIL IST VERTRAULICH UND KANN DEM BERUFSGEHEIMNIS UNTERLIEGEN. WENN SIE NICHT DER VORGESEHENE ADRESSAT SIND, BENACH - RICHTIGEN SIE UNS BITTE UNVERZUEGLICH MITTELS EMAIL UND LOESCHEN SIE DIESE NACHRICHT AUS IHREM SYSTEM. THIS EMAIL IS CONFIDENTIAL AND MAY ALSO BE LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, PLEASE NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY BY EMAIL AND THEN DELETE THIS MESSAGE FROM YOUR SYSTEM. ____________________________________________________________________________ _________

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road trip from Champaign, IL to Denver, CO and back

by useddec＠gmail.com

One of my sons will be driving to the Denver area next week and will have a limited amount of space and time to drop things off if I have anything you might need. Also, If you have some DEC items, I might be interested in working out a trade. Please contact me off list. Thanks, Paul

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Vintage IC and INMOS transputer parts for sale in Vancouver, WA

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

Hello, Buddy in Vancouver WA has stuff to sell, contact him for more info: ===================================================================== Buddy says: I have some vintage ICs that I am trying to sale. Some of them are INMOS transputer boards and documents. Buddy Woodberry buddy-l at qwest.net Vancouver WA ===================================================================== I posted his pictures here: http://oldcomputers.net/temp/pic1.jpg http://oldcomputers.net/temp/pic2.jpg http://oldcomputers.net/temp/pic3.jpg http://oldcomputers.net/temp/pic4.jpg http://oldcomputers.net/temp/pic5.jpg

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Sync on something other than green for the sake of all that is holy

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

omg how about tweaking the monitor

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Megahaul on July 4th

by iamcamiel＠gmail.com

Hi Guys, Today me and my brother (truck driving license, no interest in old iron) had the biggest haul of DEC stuff I ever had (ex-collector moving to a smaller apartment). I'm picking up a second load in a week or two. Pictures at http://www.flickr.com/photos/7816395 at N04/sets/72157630422540146/ A quick inventory: PDP stuff: - PDP 11/44 - PDP 11/84 - 3 x RL02 - Professional 325 - Professional 350 VAX stuff: - 12 x BA213/BA440 pedestal VAX systems (MV3400, VAX 4000/200,300,500A, ...) - 3 x R400X storage pedestal - 3 x R215F storage pedestal - 47 x pizzabox VAX systems (MV3100, VAXstation 4000, Infoserver 150, ...) - 22 x pizzabox storage expansion - 4 x lunchbox VAX systems (MV/VAXserver/VAXstation 2000) - 11 x lunchbox storage expansion MIPS stuff: - DECsystem 5400 (pedestal) - 2 x Personal DECstation 5000/25 - DECstation 2100 - DECstation 5000/133 - DECstation 5000/200 Alpha stuff: - 2 x DEC3000 Miscellaneous stuff: - VAXmate PC500 w/RCD31 expansion box - 2 x HSZ40 - 18 x StorageWorks BA350 - 6 x StorageWorks BA353 - DECNIS 600 w/ DNSAN, DNSAM,W614/618,L602 - 5 x DECserver 700 - 3 x DECserver 200/MC - LANbridge 200 - Lots of DEChub stuff - Lots of manuals, cables, spare cards, spare disks, etc... I need to remind people not to send any more donations for the next few months while I sort this stuff out. I won't keep it all, so I'll probably post some messages here in the next few months to sell or give away some of it. Some of it may have to end up in the bin eventually (like storage expansion boxes with broken drives) Does anyone here have any experience with the Professional systems and the VAXmate? I believe the latter is an 8086 system, is that correct? Would the DECNIS stuff still be of use to anyone? Cheers, Camiel

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Names

by cclist＠sydex.com

Chris, thank you for respecting my wishes. --Chuck

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apologies to Chuck G.

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

denigration was nowhere in my thinking when I uttered the unspoken term. In fact I think there's a person on one of these forums that adopted the nickname Chuckster. But in any event it won't happen again.

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Cable ID?

by saquinn624＠aol.com

I have two cables that I've been trying to figure out what they're for. They're both commercial, with molded-in ends. The one that I've gotten furthest on is a video/keyboard cable of some sort, 8-ft long, DA-15F on one end with a box on the other end splitting out into what appears to be PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports (Mini-DIN 6, labelled "KBD" and "MOUSE") and 3BNC R/G/B video connectors. If it was LK-style I'd think DEC, as it is I was thinking X-Terminal, but all the X-terminal pictures I've seen have local keyboard ports and more "ordinary" graphics connectors. There is a part number, 012-1369-00, that when Googled comes up as Tektronix 4200/4300 workstation, but again those don't seem to have the right ports. No manufacturer name. Second has no markings. 9-ft 13W3F to 13W3M, which seems simple enough, but the signals are put through two separate cables and the RGBS portion is broken in the middle and there are two sets of BNC M connectors on them. Other pins are wired straight through. Perhaps connects to some sort of splitter?

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Cattle Call for extras for Jobs Movie

by jws＠jwsss.com

link here http://www.beinamovie.com/movie.php?mtitleid=115 for Monday and Tuesday 7/16 and 7/17 in Pasadena. I didn't send earlier notes for this movie, but figured that this note would be of slight interest to anyone who could make it. The scenes we're part of will be the 1983 PC Conference (Monday the 16th) and the 1977 Computer Jobs Faire (Tuesday the 17th) Maybe some here were at those conferences, and won't barf at the thought of being in a movie about Jobs. Jim

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For Sale: DEC W021B cables and RS11 Disk Drive Write Lockout Panel

by rickb＠bensene.com

Hello, all, I have four DEC W021B cables with FlipChip paddles at both ends. The cables are roughly 8 feet long including the paddle boards at both ends. The cables are nine coaxial (signal and ground) cables bonded together into a single flat black cable. The paddle fingers are gold plated, have light surface corrosion on them, and have light signs of insertion/removal from backplane sockets. Each W021B cable has nine signal lines, each with a separate ground. These cables were originally used to connect and RF11 Unibus Disk Controller chassis to an RS11 disk drive based on labels on the paddle boards. The same cables were used to connect peripherals (such as DF32 or RF08/RS08 disk) to the original Flip-Chip based PDP-8 processors (Straight 8, 8I and 8L). The cables are untested. I also have a single RS11 disk drive "Write Lockout" switch panel with cable and paddle connector for connecting it to an RS11 disk drive backplane. This panel provides sixteen toggle switches that can be set to provide write protection for sixteen separate blocks of 16K words on the disk. The panel has a flexible ribbon cable that is about 12 inches long that connects to a Flip Chip paddle connector with a white handle with designation of W033. The switch panel itself is in very good condition, with very clear legends with no dings or dents. The ribbon cable has some slight delamination in some areas, and one trace may not have electrical continuity based on a visual observation. The W033 paddle connector is in very good condition, with virtually no sign that it has ever been plugged into a Flip Chip slot. All of the very high quality switches move freely, and are original switches from the era, with no sign of replacement. The unit is untested. I would like to sell these items. Please read carefully below the "rules" before bidding. Sorry they are so detailed, but I want to make sure that the rules are clearly understood by all. I am accepting offers for each individual item on a per unit basis. For example, bids will be accepted for each of the W021B cables and the RS11 Write Lockout panel assembly separately. Bids must be sent in individual Emails, e.g., do not send a bid giving an offer for all four W021B cables, or one cable and the RS11 write lockout panel. Such bids will be dismissed without notice. Bidders need to send separate Emails with bids for each of the individual items of interest. The items will sell to the highest offer received via Email to me (i-t-e-m-s *at* b-e-n-s-e-n-e *dot* c-o-m [no dashes and substitute correct symbols for *at* and *dot*]) for each item by 11:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time on Sunday 22-July. Bids received at Email addresses other than that listed above will be dismissed without notice. Duplicate bid amounts for an item will be arbitrated by the first Email received in my inbox prior to the deadline. A flat rate charge of $15 will be paid by the winning bidder for packing/shipping unless arranged otherwise. Once the high bidder is determined, they will be notified by return Email on Monday 23-July. Payment shall only be accepted by PayPal, and must be paid in full including shipping within two business days once final costs notification is sent to the winner. If a winner does not respond to notification Emails within the deadline, backs out or fails to pay, the sale is considered to have failed, and the item will not be awarded to lower bidders. If an individual provides the high bid on multiple items, packing/shipping can be combined to minimize costs. Shipping will be done by USPS Flat Rate Priority Mail unless arranged otherwise. Items will ONLY be shipped to continental US locations. I will not ship overseas, or to Alaska, Hawaii, Mexico, or Canada. If you are not from the continental US, please do not bid. Photos of items can be Emailed upon request. Sales shall be final with no returns. If no high bids are received, the items will be auctioned on eBay. I wanted to give the Classic Computer mailing list members first opportunity to acquire these unusual vintage items. Please don't hesitate to write if you have questions about the items. I will do my best to respond promptly. Rick Bensene

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totally free - Sperry Portable MS-DOS 2.11 + GW BASIC manual and slipcover

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

Good shape. Send me your address.

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need specifics on Siemens HB2183L monitor

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

scan rates primarily. Donkashane!

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URL for original EMACS macros in TECO?

by legalize＠xmission.com

Anyone got one? I'm curious to look at it. According to <http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/21.5/html/internals_3.html>, it was a merger of TECMACS and TMACS. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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cctalk Digest, Vol 107, Issue 35

by bqt＠update.uu.se

On 2012-07-14 16:04, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Message: 26 > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 09:31:41 -0400 > From: Rick Murphy<rick at rickmurphy.net> > To:cctalk at classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: OS/8 dates (was TECO ^B on OS/8 and RT-11) > Message-ID:<201207141331.q6EDVgHs011761 at rickmurphy.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 05:17 AM 7/13/2012, Johnny Billquist wrote: >> >Ooo. So TECO-8 actually lie in their documentation... Even worse. >> >A year in the range 1986-1994 would just have looked like 1970-1977. >> >That's ugly of them. > You're quite correct. Clearly this*is* a TECO-8 bug - I thought it was > at least following the docs but they're just ignoring the high-order > date bit. Unfortunately, fixing this (as in making it compliant with > the documentation) isn't easy as that page is full. And "fixing" it > would just give different wrong values since you can't squash 14 bits > into 13. > > Mea culpa. TECO Fail, indeed. Yeah... I tried to figure out a fix to atleast do what the doc says, but I end up using one more word than the current code. :-( Hmm, possibly I can get away with it, if there is a free location, or a constant 0060 on the current page, or page zero already, and the link is already clear at entrance of the routine... But it's hacky. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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who is the resident Burroughs terminal expert??

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I have a guy wanting to sell me an old airport terminal. Oi. Anyone want to peruse the pictures? I'll send them out if you're interested.

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A few 85xx uploads

by aek＠bitsavers.org

under http://bitsavers.org/bits/Tektronix Changed 856x to 8560 and created 8550 and 8562 directories There is an untested DOS/50 boot disk image under 8550 It's probably OK. The files extracted correctly on the 8562 Under 8562: The boot block for the 8562 (which appears to be different from the one on the V2 update floppy from the 8560) and a small program to create an IMD file with a payload >from stdin, so you can, for example, make a floppy with a tarball that can be read on /dev/rfd0 on the 8562. Curiously, Tek didn't include dd with Tnix, so I'm going to tar over the source and stock V7 dd binary to see if an unmodified binary will run, and if not, compile it over there. I'm a little nervous that the 8562 stanalone utilities disk may be needed to restore the disk instead of the one from the 8560, since the boot doesn't work quite the same way (the 8562 reads /boot from the disk, while the 8560 just loads 'tnix')

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Altair 8800 Kit - Paging Grant Stockly

by lists＠loomcom.com

Has anyone heard from Grant Stockly recently? The Altair Kit forums have fallen into the hands of spammers, and I haven't been able to reach him through email. He announced a new sale of kits in early June, but I didn't find out about it until last week. I was hoping to get in on it. -Seth

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Sync on something other than green for the sake of all that is holy

by spectre＠floodgap.com

Over the weekend, having gotten a beautiful, perfectly circular round tuit, I cracked the root password on my SGI Indy (tip of the hat to Doc Shipley) and got the system fully operational. It's a little poky, so I suppose the next thing is to upgrade the CPU module and get a 24-bit video card in it (8-bit is yugly). However, in the meantime, I'm using a cheapo 13w3 to VGA converter that works okay with my NEC monitor, but there is still a sync signal on the green line, leaving me with a persistent green tint. Reducing green gamma in IRIX helps some, but I'd like to get my black back (because once you go black, well, you know). What are people using to turn SOG into a more conventional sync signal an off-the-shelf multisync monitor like my NEC XV15+ VGA display will accept? -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- Diamonds are forever. ------------------------------------------------------

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