test-drb November 2012

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A few corrections/additions to the Kerrville inventory

by sales＠elecplus.com

Terminals include, but are not limited to: IBM Display Write systems Other IBM terminals Sun ITT TI Harris Lanier Wang Tandem Esprit Tektronix Motorola (these are new, never used) Sperry/Unisys HP Honeywell AT&T DEC Wyse Farrington Matching kbds might be available. I do have several 10 pound kbds that went to the original DEC VT100 terminals. A few are missing one or more keycaps. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls -----Original Message----- From: Richard [mailto:legalize at xmission.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 6:50 PM To: Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus Subject: Re: A few corrections/additions to the Kerrville inventory [off-list reply] In article <00a401cdbc58$12e25860$38a70920$@com>, "Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus" <sales at elecplus.com> writes: > LOTS of dumb terminals, some kbds. Hi Cindy, Any chance you could name a few make/models on the terminals? Nothing exhaustive, just a representative sample would be nice. Thanks! -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com> ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5875 - Release Date: 11/05/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5875 - Release Date: 11/05/12

12 years, 1 month

Just got a NewBrain...

by rwiker＠gmail.com

... which is in great shape, except for a missing keycap (for the "J" key). Does anybody here have any spares that they'd be willing to part with? #|| Raymond #||

12 years, 1 month

Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, Cindy also looked at the pictures, and responds: At 10:06 -0600 11/7/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote: >Excellent, thank you! Almost all of this is >still here. As a note, the pile of power >supplies has been tested and sorted, and is no >longer a pile J These pics barely scratch the >surface? > >Cindy Croxton >Electronics Plus >1613 Water Street >Kerrville, TX 78028 >(830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax >AOL IM elcpls I will concur that the pictures show only a small fraction of what is there; I only took pictures of things that interested me, and therefore skipped the great majority of the warehouse. Feel free to cross-post to other lists if you are on them and you think their members would be interested; the objective is to move this collection away from scrappers and toward collectors wherever possible. -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

12 years, 1 month

Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 16:40 -0600 11/6/12, Sam wrote: >Sounds like a fun day for localish collectors to get together. So she's >getting out all together? Do you recall how things are priced or does she >have a price list on some of the vintage gear? I see they have a >complete/working 5150 but $650 for the website price tag is pretty high. I did not discuss pricing with her. I think she's getting out altogether, to focus on family. >Either way, I'd probably be up for a trip if the spousal unit approves. Hm >crap.. I'll technically be on call that weekend but I can probably still >swing it. Other weekends are workable, but I think the end of the year is the deadline. >Is there an offline coordination effort or we can keep it on the >list if it's topical for folks who might want to go. I vote on-list, but non-local list members may vote otherwise; comments welcome either way. >If you or she has some pictures of the vintage stuff I'd love to see what's >there just to gauge things a bit. Not sure what I'd be searching for out >there, I love Commodore/Amiga but also like other one off home computers >(generally my collection focuses on the home computer market). I have a set of pictures from 2001. I'll try to find a place to post those and report back here when done, but be aware they are more than a decade obsolete. -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

12 years, 1 month

System 370 error, very sorry

by sales＠elecplus.com

The System 370 was an error. What they actually are is 5 legal-size paper boxes of 8" floppies that were used by a company for backup on a System 36. There are also "magazines" that hold 10 of these disks each. There does not appear to be any original system software, just used disks, which are prob of interest to someone who needs 8" floppies. You are welcome to post anything anywhere you want, since I want these things to go to a good home, instead of the scrap pile. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls -----Original Message----- From: Mark Tapley [mailto:mtapley at swri.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 9:00 AM To: sales at elecplus.com; Kevin at RawFedDogs.net Subject: Kevin, it's fine by me, my only stake is I hope the stuff all finds new homes. I assume it's OK with Cindy, but she should answer for herself. At 16:40 -0600 11/6/12, <cctalk-request at classiccmp.org> wrote: >Message: 9 >Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:12:24 -0600 >From: Kevin Monceaux <Kevin at RawFedDogs.net> >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >Subject: Re: Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?) >Message-ID: <20121106211223.GA2892 at RawFedDogs.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Mark, > >On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 10:06:25AM -0600, Mark Tapley wrote: > >> That warehouse is now closing, and Cindy, the proprietor, is selling >> off the collection. Her description of what is there includes: >> >> At 9:15 -0600 11/6/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote: >> > >> >Also cases and cases of software and documentation for System 370, old IBM. > >Would you, or Cindy, mind if I cross-post this to the Hercules-390 list? >The System 370 stuff could be of great interest to many Herculeans. > > >-- > >Kevin >http://www.RawFedDogs.net >http://Lassie.RawFedDogs.net >http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org >Bruceville, TX > >What's the definition of a legacy system? One that works! >Errare humanum est, ignoscere caninum. -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5875 - Release Date: 11/05/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5875 - Release Date: 11/05/12

12 years, 1 month

P112 question - what can you run that uses 1MB of RAM?

by jce＠seasip.demon.co.uk

On 11/06/2012 10:53 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > it got me wondering... what CP/M software is out > there (except maybe a RAM disk) that can *use* 1MB? There were various packages specific to the Amstrad PCW that could make use of the up to 2Mb it could take. There were task switchers like Network (which allowed switching between multiple CP/M programs) and Flipper (which allowed switching between multiple operating systems). The DTP package MicroDesign used the memory to store the page it was working on. Then there's my contributon: ZXZVM runs an Infocom Z-Code game, using the extra memory to store the game file and the up to 64k of RAM that the virtual machine requires. -- John Elliott

12 years, 1 month

Those TI 1500 machines...

by derschjo＠gmail.com

The TI 1500 series UNIX machines that Isnagged off eBay a couple weeks back finally arrived on my doorstep this morning. Floating in a sea of packing peanuts in very battered boxes. *sigh*. I feared the worst but they appear to have made it more or less in one piece. Only casualty was one of the front plates (plastic) which looks like it'll be fine after some supergluing. These things are built like tanks. As the eBay listing specified, there are no hard drives. The pictures on the auction made it look like there was a drive included in one of the machines, but this was apparently removed before shipping. I was kind of hoping there'd be a drive but oh well. At least it's got a standard SCSI interface. Now to find some actual software for this thing, I'm sure that'll be easy ;). Other than that, the machines are completeand seem to be functioning properly (see the end of this mail for some diagnostic output porn, if you're into that sort of thing.) The larger of the two (it's just slightly taller than the other) has no model designation on the front (the shorter says "TI 1500 Computer", but both of them are labeled as S1505s on the rear, with S1507 processors and differing options installed. The taller POSTs as a 1507, the shorter as a 1505. Dates on EPROMs are from the early 90s. (91 and 92). The taller (1507) has a 68040 CPU (25Mhz), 64mb of RAM (30-pin 4mb simms, parity), a Communications co-processor, ethernet, and a couple of other communications adapters(a "Multidrop\V.35 and some misc "Comm Carrier" boards). Looks like the 68040 is an upgrade of sorts (looks to be official) -- the two machines have the same motherboard, but the 68040 is on a daughterboard that plugs into the 68030 socket. The shorter (1505) has a 68030 (25Mhz) with 68882and only8mb of RAM (30-pin 1mb simms, parity). Aside from a"Comm Carrier" board it also has an 8-channel async serial boardwith 8 MMJ connectors on the rear. Near the bottom on the rear there is a pair of ports (DB-25 and MMJ) labeled "DIAG PORT." I connected a standard DEC MMJ to it and at 9600N7 I get diagnostic output(see below). Other interesting things of note: There are a lot of 68K-series processors in these machines. Aside fromthe main 68040 CPU, there are two 68000 CPUs on the motherboard, one for COMM I/O, the other for SCSI (they're neatly labeled). The Communications coprocessor board contains an additional 68010. Diags indicate that the boards are Nubus, though they don't use the standard connector I'm familiar with. Looks more like PCI/microchannel. That's all for now. I've taken some pictures which I'll post later. If anyone wants more details, let me know. And if anyone knows where to find OS tapes for thisthing, I'm all ears. Thanks, Josh Diag output follows: ------------------- RESET Executing S1507 68040 F/W Rev *F in Slot C with 64MB memory Selftest BEGINS Test 00 RAM passed Test 01 PARITY passed Test 02 ICC passed Test 03 CACHE passed Test 04 MAD passed Test 05 TIMER passed Test 06 NVRAM passed Test 07 SPA passed Test 08 C-ROM passed Selftest COMPLETE Slot C CPU TESTING SYSTEM: Slot 0 CPO passed Slot 8 CPO passed Slot 9 SPC passed Slot C CPU passed Global ARB passed D=Default load, M=Menu load, R=Retest, E=Extended tests : Waiting Errors in unit D=Default load, M=Menu load, R=Retest, E=Extended tests :M Available load devices No online device D=Default load, M=Menu load, R=Retest, E=Extended tests :E Slot C CPU TESTING SYSTEM: Slot 0 CPO (TIAU 00002561095-0001 *P) COMM CARRIER & OPTION BOARD TEST NuBus Slave Cycle Memory Test passed NuBus Master Logic Test passed ROM CRC passed ICC test passed COSI registers test passed RAM pattern test passed RAM bit test passed RAM address test passed COSI timer test passed LAN ID ROM CRC test passed COSI DMA test passed Bus exception test passed PORT 0 OPTION : 3 channel MULTIFUNCTION ADAPTOR : 3 channel MULTIFUNCTION Read/Write register test passed Counter/timer test passed Adaptor board test passed ASYNC loopback test passed BOP loopback test passed DMA loopback test passed DMA BOP linked array test passed PAL state machine passed NRZI BOP loopback test passed High Speed BOP loopback test passed BISYNC loopback test passed PORT 1 OPTION : EMPTY ADAPTOR : EMPTY COMM section ARBITRATION test passed passed Slot 8 CPO (TIAU 00002571396-0001 *L) COMM CARRIER & OPTION BOARD TEST NuBus Slave Cycle Memory Test passed NuBus Master Logic Test passed ROM CRC passed ICC test passed COSI registers test passed RAM pattern test passed RAM bit test passed RAM address test passed COSI timer test passed LAN ID ROM CRC test passed COSI DMA test passed Bus exception test passed PORT 0 OPTION : MULTIDROP\V.35 ADAPTOR : MULTIDROP with printer Read write devices test passed PI/T 68230 test passed MC68440 DMA test passed MC68606 DMA test passed Transmit and receive frames test passed PORT 1 OPTION : LAN 802.3 ADAPTOR : 802.3 ETHERNET Timer test passed Internal loopback test passed Adaptor internal loopback test passed Multicast test passed CRC test passed Off board test skipped COMM section ARBITRATION test passed passed Slot 9 SPC (TIAU 00002571396-0001 *L) passed Slot C CPU (TIAU 00002571396-0001 *L) Selftest BEGINS Test 00 RAM passed Test 01 PARITY passed Test 02 ICC passed Test 03 CACHE passed Test 04 MAD passed Test 05 TIMER passed Test 06 NVRAM passed Test 07 SPA passed Test 08 C-ROM passed Selftest COMPLETE passed Global ARB passed D=Default load, M=Menu load, R=Retest, E=Extended tests :

12 years, 1 month

Bunnie's "Name that ware"

by pontus＠update.uu.se

Bunnie has a monthly competition to identify various bits of electronics. The September competition went unsolved. It looks retro, anybody here know what it is? http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=2554 /P

12 years, 1 month

Warehouse sale, Kerrville, Texas, December 1 (?)

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

>All, > A decade or so back I visited a warehouse in Kerrville with a >*lot* of classic computer gear. That warehouse is now closing, and >Cindy, the proprietor, is selling off the collection. Her description >of what is there includes: > >At 9:15 -0600 11/6/12, Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus wrote: >>I would like to arrange that on Saturday a group of interested people could >>come up and go through all the antique stuff. There is Kaypro, HP, Apple, >>Commodore, Radio Shack, DEC Rainbow, etc. I will have space available that >>everyone can plug in what they want to, and test it before they leave with >>it. I have a limited amt of software that can be used on each type of >>machine. >> >>Also cases and cases of software and documentation for System 370, old IBM. > > I enquired by email about the System 370 software and documentation. I was told first that some of the boxes actually said "System 36" on them. I was then told that The "software" seems to consist of large qty of 8" floppy disks that someone used for backups and that there are also "magazines" that hold maybe 10 of the 8" diskettes each and that there does not seem to be any original operating software or programs. I was also told that there are 2 boxes, abt 20 pounds, that contains full operating manuals and possibly the software for AT&T 3B2 system. It doesn't sound likely to me that there is any 370 material there. (I'm not complaining, I'm just passing on what I was told for the information of others who might be interested.) Regards, Peter Coghlan.

12 years, 1 month

A few corrections/additions to the Kerrville inventory

by sales＠elecplus.com

The IBM System 370 software is an error. There are a hundred or more 8" floppy diskettes, some in "magazines" that were used as backups on a System 36. Occupies about 5 legal-size paper boxes. There does not appear to be any original software. AT&T 3B2 software and documentation, 2 legal size paper boxes, much of the documentation is still sealed. Sorry, I do not have any more of the 3B2 machines. Large qty of 360K and 1.2MB floppy drives, and 360kb new blank diskettes in 10-packs. TI 99/4A, 1 still in original box, several out of box, extra AC adapters, small amt of software. Commodore 64, 1 still in box, several out of box, couple of disk drives, etc. Bring software to test. LOTS of color and mono 9-pin monitors, a few still new in box. LOTS of dumb terminals, some kbds. A few Atari game systems, extra AC adapters, etc. Bring games to test. ISA and PCI cards, thousands of them, plus "newer" AGP video cards. Several boxes of CPU chips, from 80386 and 80387 thru P4. Motherboards, new and used, from 386 to Quad core P4. Thousands of cables, etc. Over 10,000 square feet to look through, I look forward to seeing you! Email inquiries welcome. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5875 - Release Date: 11/05/12

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