> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:34:39 +1200
> From: "terry stewart" <terry at webweavers.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: Socket issue in Commodore PETS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 5:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Socket issue in Commodore PETS
>
>
>> I would certainly replace all the sockets with turned-pin ones, .....
>
> My experience with the PET has made me re-assess the old adage of
> reseating
> socketed chips as a first step in trying to get something the doesn't work
> to work. Cheap old sockets may not take kindly to having something yanked
> out of them that have been snuggly entrenched for 30+ years. Far from
> helping to fix a fault, it actually may introduce a new one.
>
> I was quite careful when I swapped these chips around but that was enough
> to
> cause socket failure on BOTH boards.
>
> Terry (Tez)
Along with bad RAM and ROM chips, IC sockets making poor contact is
definitely at the top of the list of common PET problems, especially if
they've been disturbed; I prefer to slide the chips sideways rather than
remove and replace them, if only to avoid the possibility of bent or broken
pins.
But in my experience with dozens of PETs and AIM65s, some working in
extrememely hostile environments, I found that a remarkable product called
Stabilant-22 almost totally eliminated contact problems (unless there was
actual damage), and virtually eliminated frequent socket-related service
calls. I don't recall having to replace a single socket; the only issue with
certain socket types is that with a lot of vibration or circuit board
flexing the chips sometimes migrate out of their socket.
It's expensive but it does work and a little goes a long way.
> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:05:08 -0400
> From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com>
> Subject: Re: Dataman chip writers and Linux
> Fortunately, there are better ways to run Windows apps nowadays than
> WINE.
> -Dave
Absolutely! Windows, for example...
;-)
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The "SBC-6120 Full Kit, FP6120, FP Finishing Kit, VT6 Kit" sold yesterday for $1,500.00 on eBay...
Lyle
--
Lyle Bickley, AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
Hey folks. I'm running Peter's pcb+gl_experimental branch, and I'd
like to play with the photorealistic rendering that used to be referred
to as "ben mode". I thought it was in this code base, and it's pictured
on Peter's (excellent) blog. How can I do this? Peter, can you slap me
with the big fish of clue?
Thanks,
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
I just picked-up an ASR-33 today - it looks pretty good. Supposedly low hours.
I need to replace the rubber for the print head - it has turned hard and is cracking.
Is there anything else I need to do before I even turn it on and press a key?
Thanks!
Steven Stengel
I just got an email back from Dataman Ltd about my inquiry of the
possibility of using a Linux machine to drive their chip writers. What I
got back was a statement that in ten years, less than ten people have ever
asked about Linux or Mac support. Surely there are more people than just
me who'd want to use these things under Linux.
--
David Griffith
dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
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A: Top-posting.
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Any copies (PDF) of the Data I/O wallcharts (besides 1986) appreciated
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Thanks,
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--
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
I have no idea if these are of use to anyone, but I have three NOS (New
Old Stock - sealed) 3M DC 600A Data Cartridges (60Mbytes!) that are free
to the first person who wants them - simply pay for the shipping or pick
up at my shop in Vancouver, BC, Canada. Weight is 280gm each, and could
be shipped Air Small Packet (padded envelope) for $15 to the USA or
$35 (Air) or $18 (Surface) to the UK.
John :-#)#
--
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
Anyone have a copy of the "wallchrt.exe" program from around 1997?
Earlier versions apprecaited too. The one claiming to be on the data-io
ftp server times out...
ftp://ftp.dataio.com/device_lists/_archive/etc/README.html
Any copies (PDF) of the Data I/O wallcharts (besides 1986) appreciated
as well.
Thanks,
John :-#)#
--
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"
