test-drb March 2011

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OT: Can someone help me pick out a desktop machine?

by thomas.gardner＠sbcglobal.net

> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:03:00 -0500 > From: Tom <a50mhzham at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: OT: Can someone help me pick out a desktop machine? > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Message-ID: <4d7d4ef1.65c2ec0a.6613.4ce3 at mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed If price is your issue, as it seems to be: 1) You probably want an AMD chip 2) You should be looking at refurbished systems; I have had a lot of good luck with refurbished IBM/Lenovo systems purchased at http://outlet.lenovo.com/. You might also check Costco if u have one locally; they seem to have good deals on HP systems. Unless u are into serious video editing, large compilations, or any other CPU intensive activity, any current CPU should be sufficient for your needs. May I further suggest that what u really care about is the graphics card (not built in so you can upgrade if and when necessary), the monitor (large, LED backlit, fast) and the keyboard (feels good). If you are in this group u should have enuf talent to upgrade the memory and HDD to whatever u need. Tom

13 years, 3 months

bitsavers RSS feed updated

by legalize＠xmission.com

- Corrected a bug where _'s in the directory name would mess up the directory links. This is most visible on the recent updates to the bits feed with the Walnut Creek CDROM folders. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

13 years, 3 months

DECwhatzits

by wdonzelli＠gmail.com

http://www.oceanviewcom.com//misc/St_Js_TE_Outside.JPG Two modules look like they came from the DEC stable, but what are they? This rack may or may not be appearing on DRMS lists sometime in the next 20 years. That is all I know about it. -- Will

13 years, 3 months

PDP-11 Operating Systems

by oe5ewl＠gmail.com

Hi everyone, You may have noticed in the pdp11 usenet groups that over some time I have collected a nice bunch of PPD-11 OSes in various versions (this takes less space, I have to deal with some kind of space restrictions at the moment). From time to time I tend to put online what I have found (please see 5ewl.blogspot.com if you want). There are some well known archives out there in the internet, but some OSes mentioned in the PDP-11 faq and other sources are kinda hiding >from me. Let's start here: As I was reading the Ersatz-11 documentation file I stumbled upon "Fox 2/30 OS". Does anyone now something about this OS? Did any copies of this system or documentation and software survive? The only reference I have found so far since I read the Ersatz-11 docs is here: http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Foxboro/Foxboro.Fox... (can't look at this file at the moment as I am on a slooooow internet connection). All I found out is there's a strong focus on process control in this system as well at it should be some kind of OEM. Another OS I am currently looking for is CAPS-11. It is mentioned at some points, but I could find almost no documentation, definately no sources or tape images. Much of the other OSes I've got in my little list are missing the early versions. It would be a pleasure to see these showing up somewhere and making them available for the interested Enthusiasts. I saw discussions about licensing and property issues about some other OSes too (like DSM). They seem to be stucked at some point, hopefully these OSes don't get lost sometime. Here's a little sum-up about Systems I didn't came across so far: CAPS-11, CTS-300 and -500, DSM-11, DURESS, GAMMA-11, HT-11, MERTS, Micropower Pascal, MONECS, MTS, PC-11, RUST/XM, SPHERE, TRAX If you have any information about the Operating Systems mentioned in this message or can help out with disk images, disks, sources etc. I'd greatly appreciate if you'd drop a line. Have a good start into the weekend, Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Eichberger - OE5EWL Operating System Collector Blog: 5ewl.blogspot.com Homepage: www.eichberger.org

13 years, 3 months

OT: Can someone help me pick out a desktop machine?

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

Phill writes: On 14/03/2011 14:14, Shoppa, Tim wrote: >> AMD stuff is available >> but doesn't promise the performance of a Sandy Bridge machine that >> you probably can't buy :). Again, just don't get sucked into the rat >> race. > > I keep hearing this "Intel make CPUs that wipe the floor AMDs" over and > over again, and whilst true this doesn't tell the whole story. I have > personally found, at the times I have felt the need to upgrade that AMD > processors offer the best trade off of price and performance (for me at > least). > > Yes there are faster Intels but they are also *MUCH* more expensive, > sometimes by several times :( Yeah, I tried to couch into my response that I'm comparing the price of Something you can't buy (Sandy Bridge) with something you can buy (AMD). Even when roughly equivalent stuff is available there are still substantial Differences between the two that make a apples-for-apples comparison difficult. Reminds me of the old story: A lady walks into a butcher shop and asks: "How much are the pork chops?" The butcher says: "$1.89 a pound." "$1.89?" The woman asks in shock. "I can get them down the street for $1.69." "So who sent for you?" the butcher asks. "Go down the street." "They don't have any pork chops." "If I didn't have any pork chops, I'd sell 'em to you for $1.49 a pound."

13 years, 3 months

PDP-11 Operating Systems

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-03-12 19:00, people wrote: [...] All I can add about operating systems related to the original question is that unless I remember wrong, CTS-300 and CTS-500 were based on RSTS/E (basically RSTS/E and hardware bundled together as a complete solution). TRAX-11 was a transaction based system. Mostly targeted at the 11/70, unless I remember wrong. However, I seem to remember that TRAX-11 was also somehow tied up with RSX-11M-PLUS, and also the 11/74, but my memory might be confusing me. MicroPower PASCAL was a standalone system I seem to remember. You built the software on something else, like RSX, and then you booted the created system on a bare machine. CAPS-11 is something really old. About the same timeframe as DOS-11. It was obsoleted around 1974 or something, I would suspect. Very short lifetime of some of the earliest systems for the PDP-11. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years, 3 months

PDP-11 Operating Systems

by jgessling＠btmg.com

MUMPS has had (and continues to have) a niche market in financial systems also. TD Ameritrade uses it, not sure for what exact purpose. I ran into it while working for that bank with the stagecoach when conversion from a home grown Prime Computer based system was under consideration. I'm currently employed by a medical group that uses Intersystems Cache (MUMPS based) on VMS for production applications. Regards, Jim ________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this email is legally privileged and confidential information only for the use of the individual or Brown & Toland Medical Group. Any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this document is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete all copies of it from your system. Thank you.

13 years, 3 months

OT: Can someone help me pick out a desktop machine?

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

IMHO: Don't get sucked up in the hi-end desktop rat race. If you need to buy a desktop machine with Windows, make it a low-end refurbed one (not sure Office Depot has any but other places do, starting at $100.) Use the Office Depot credit to buy other things (e.g. screen, printer, etc.). If you do want a best-for-$650-hardware Intel machine, the market is somewhere between "pause" and "tumultuous" as the industry deals with the Intel Sandy Bridge issues. 1366 mobos and CPU's are available but will likely put you above your price point. AMD stuff is available but doesn't promise the performance of a Sandy Bridge machine that you probably can't buy :). Again, just don't get sucked into the rat race.

13 years, 3 months

TI-99/4a display question

by evan＠snarc.net

Was the TI-99/4a marketed with a TI-branded monitor? Or did most people use a television?

13 years, 3 months

OT: Can someone help me pick out a desktop machine?

by a50mhzham＠gmail.com

At 05:26 PM 3/13/2011, you wrote: >On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > The only basic recommendation I can make is, make sure it has an AMD cpu. > > > > Now, before this gets into another CPU flame war, > > Intel has for a while decided that the users/owners rights don't matter, > > it's DRM (digital rights management) all the way for them, > > with even the ability to disable or remove > software "they" don't want you to run. > > oh, you paid for that program? that's too bad. > > > > no thanks, when I buy a machine, I buy it, not a license to use it. > > go ahead, get Intel, let them monitor everything you do. > >I didn't know that! Thanks! > > > but the usual fanboys will say - the faster > is better, more cores is better, more FSB is > better, larger cache is better. blah > >I found an HP machine there for around $850 that has a 6 core AMD chip >and 8 gigs of ram. The motherboard can take 16 gigs also. I think >that may be the winner. The box I just built from scratch has a AMD Phenom II X6 1090T "Black" CPU. I ran their overclocking utility and got 17% boost without even really trying hard. It's running at 3.7 mhz (3.2 mhz nominal cpu) though I suppose I could push it harder by upping the voltage a little. > > why a desktop anyhow? why not a decent > notebook? why not an ipad2 (its under your price requirement) ? > > the desktop days are numbered (yeah, just > like the year of the linux desktop is every year) Not a chance. The public buys notebooks and laptops and pads because they're cool, but in my job, repairability is crucial, and it's also a little harder to steal a desktop. Or lose it. >I really dislike notebooks. I think they have less power for the >money. They're also less expandable. I've also had a lot of problems >from a variety of notebook manufacturers. For gateway, the keys fell >off. For a few toshibas, the power bricks crapped out, then the power >connector in the machine broke so you can't charge. My daughter had >an asus or acer or something with flaky 802.11g. It would drop the >connection making her reconnect every 5 minutes, then went out >completely. Replaced it, then the new one did the same. I can't seem >to get one that just keeps working. I have amiga computers that still >work, why can't a notebook last more than 3 months? Preach it brother. I'm right with you. > > most companies aren't even making desktops > any more, or are cutting back, or ending soon. > 846 . One tentacle, one vote. NEW: a50mhzham at gmail.com ? N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) ? Second Tops (Set Dancing) ? FIND ME ON FACEBOOK 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W ? Elevation 815' ? Grid Square EN53wc LAN/Telecom Analyst ? Open-source Dude ? Musician ? Registered Linux User 385531

13 years, 3 months

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