test-drb August 2010

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[gopher] OT: Anyone interested in text editor programming? (fwd)

by spectre＠floodgap.com

I figured some people on this list would want to play with this. >From the gopher-project mailing list. ----- Forwarded message from N. Theodore Matavka ----- From: "N. Theodore Matavka" <... at gmail.com> To: gopher-project at lists.alioth.debian.org Subject: [gopher] OT: Anyone interested in text editor programming? Hello, world! I know this is a Gopher mailing list, but I know that there are some budding developers among you. Recently, I have rescued some software >from the bit bucket, and I am asking, if it is not too much, if there are any among you interested in bringing a great old editor back to the forefront. I am talking about TECO: the famously cryptic Text Editor and Corrector, now made far less cryptic due to the addition of a GUI. If you have ever done any amount of work on HP or DEC minis, you must know what I'm talking about. If not, here's a quick rundown: TECO was the first-ever programmer's editor to be written, in the tradition of vi and emacs. In fact, emacs is a direct descendant of TECO, having originally been called Editor Macros. It is included as system standard on all manner of VAXen and PDP-10s. Its one main drawback was that the buffer of text that was being worked on was not visible except on-demand, and one could completely mangle a document with just a few keystrokes, until someone managed to write a version of TECO that displayed the text buffer all the time. Video TECO is an attempt to re-create this great old editor in a version that any Tom, Dick, or Harry would understand. It was written by Paul Cantrell ten years ago; the files had been lost, until I discovered a snapshot of the source hiding in my e-mail inbox. I've even found a patch to make it run on Linux. So I've re-released it under the Sleepycat Licence, and I am currently enlisting developers to help me add new features and squash bugs. I've got plenty of documentation from DEC and HP as to how to work this editor; I've been using it for quite a while in its old version, and would surely appreciate video TECO. A version of video TECO already exists on VAX, and it is only by luck that I managed to find this version for PC. I have just put the files on SourceForge, and they are available at: https://sourceforge.net/projects/newteco/. Please assist me in this great endeavour. Cordially, Nick Matavka. _______________________________________________ Gopher-Project mailing list Gopher-Project at lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project ----- End of forwarded message from N. Theodore Matavka ----- -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't. --

14 years, 4 months

Since when are magazines so expensive?

by marvin＠west.net

curt at atarimuseum.com> wrote: > Been happening a lot lately, I'm even seeing common PC mags from > the 80's being offered for higher then they should prices... I was checking some pricing for the original PE Altair issues, and my eyes started to water when I saw them for about $1600 or so. I didn't check to see the number of bidders, but there were another batch of auctions after that where they were selling for $600 - $800 or so. Marvin

14 years, 4 months

looking for monitor and cable for DECmate II

by jack.rubin＠ameritech.net

I just acquired a nice DECMate II but it lacks monitor and cable. Can anyone help me with a VR201 monitor (shared with Rainbow and DEC Pro series) and/or the special DA-15 cable which provides both video and keyboard connection to the main box. Please reply directly offlist. Thanks, Jack

14 years, 4 months

Terminals...

by bqt＠softjar.se

Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: > Not at all, I just wanted to know what he didn't like about them. The > only thing I dislike about VT420s is the non-removable power cables. Huh? My VT420s have removable power cords... William Donzelli <wdonzelli at gmail.com> wrote: > I do not like the VT420 due to MMJ, the relatively low reliability, > and that CRAP power switch on the front. The keyboards are nothing to > write home about either, but DEC keyboards rarely are. Interesting, how different peoples view can be. The VT420 have both DB25 and MMJ, so I can't see how that could annoy anyone. (As do all DEC terminals from the VT220 onwards.) However, MMJ is actually very nice. Too bad it didn't catch on outside of DEC. But I try to use it for everything I can at home. The power switch I can agree on. I don't fancy that slider. Keyboards... I know people have very different opinions on those, but I think the LK201 and LK402 keyboards are wonderful. I really dislike IBM PC keyboards. Way too long key presses, and to much klickety klack. And all the copies of them are even worse. The VT100 keyboard is not a favorite, though. That one also have too much travel when pressing a key. No, I can't honestly think of a keyboard I like better than the LK201 and LK401. And I really think they layout is way better than what IBM dreamt up. The reliability of the VT420 seems to be pretty decent. I've had many more VT320 fail on me. But we have to remember that we're talking about 20+ year old equipment now... Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

14 years, 4 months

Logic analyzer pods

by jws＠jwsss.com

I know this may be a long stretch, but one almost never sees logic analyzer pods on ebay, usually someone with the box who is way too proud of it. Here is an auction for some K100D pods, and if you look at the other auctions there are others, I think. Thought I'd pass it along for those interested, since older logic analyzers are pretty useful for the people on the list. 130410451946 They are also "Buy it now" so first come first served if the price isn't too high for you. Jim

14 years, 4 months

Since when are magazines so expensive?

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/MacWorld-First-Issue-1984_W0QQitemZ110571651570

14 years, 4 months

IMSAI 8080 power supply ratings...

by derschjo＠mail.msu.edu

Hi all -- So the recent discussion of static RAM and the power consumption thereof has lead me to figure out what the approximate rating for my IMSAI's power supply is, before I inadvertently overload it. I have an IMSAI manual that describes the PS-28U as having a rating of 28A on the 7V supply, and 4.5 on the +/-13.5V supplies. Unfortunately, the PS-28U does not appear to be the supply I have fitted in my IMSAI, based on the component descriptions, schematics, and pictures in the manual. I'm unable to find schematics or a manual for any other IMSAI 8080 power supply other than the PS-28U. I have a picture of my IMSAI's power supply at: http://yahozna.dyndns.org/scratch/imsai/IMG_0244.JPG. It contains a 17,000uF, a 12,000uF, and a 95,000uF capacitor. (And a very large transformer as well.) Any IMSAI experts out there familiar with this particular variant? (And thanks again for all the help with the static RAM. I have been offered some 2147s locally and with those, hopefully I'll be able to get the 32K board running again...) Thanks, Josh

14 years, 4 months

Greetings fellow classiccmp'ers

by shoppa＠trailing-edge.com

Jay writes: > My jwest at classiccmp.org email address went unopened though, and I've > just started plowing through 22K (that's a count, not a size) of email. In the case of mailing lists I run, the spam making it through to the moderator and admin addresses (me in several instances) was truly out of control. See below for solution. > I'd like to update the classiccmp server (OS, apache, mysql, & mailman) > soon. To aid in that transition, I will probably temporarily migrate > all the sites & list to one of our clusters, load the classiccmp > server from scratch, and then migrate everything back. I'll > keep the list posted when I start down that path. Having recently migrated all the stuff on *.trailing-edge.com to a 2010 era server (as opposed to the 2000 era server it was on - previous to that it had been on an Alpha with VMS, and previous to that it had been on a VAX with VMS) with fresh installs of all the software I was pleasantly surprised with the advances that have been made in apache and mailman configuration over time especially with respect to virtual domains etc. In particular the Ubuntu distribution was very straightforward to deal with... after I had adopted to the more modern configuration techniques. And spamassassin can be better integrated with postfix and mailman than in the past, to the point where the obvious spams never have to make it to a moderator's mailbox or turn up as a bogus request to the admin address. I'm not sure you need to stage through an intermediate platform, BTW. Just bite the bullet and go to the final platform. Unless you really enjoy installing and configuring everything twice. Although I was pleasantly surprised with the new Apache etc. configuration methods I still wouldn't want to do it twice. Tim.

14 years, 4 months

Static RAM chip source (& S-100 related questions...)

by derschjo＠mail.msu.edu

Hi all -- I finally have procured enough hardware to get my IMSAI 8080 running again, albeit in a very barebones state. I currently have only 16K of working (and compatible) memory and am trying to get an additional 32K static RAM board working again (It's an IMS board, see: http://www.s100computers.com/Hardware%20Folder/IMS/32K%20Static%20RAM/32K%2…) Mine is missing a number of memory chips; these are 5257 4Kx1 (I believe >from my research the TMS4044 is equivalent). Can anyone suggest a reputable place to pick up half a dozen or so of these for a reasonable price? There are a few on ebay for $6 each, which seems a little steep (but perhaps my expectations are out of order...) I'm also looking for a manual for a PSS RAM65. I believe this is a 16K DRAM board. It's the only S-100 board in my collection that I haven't managed to find a manual or schematic for... Once I get the memory situation resolved I hope to get a floppy disk system working. I currently have a Tarbell 1011D in unknown condition -- is this a decent card to work with (and can it be made to work with 5.25" drives?), or would I be better off finding something else? Thanks as always, Josh

14 years, 4 months

transistor replacements

by dgari＠msn.com

Assuming they are complementary, these oughta work: http://www.nteinc.com/specs/100to199/pdf/nte188.pdf _

14 years, 4 months

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test-drb August 2010