test-drb April 2010

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Re: Reading ancient paper digital media (was Re: Hamurabi Focal source)

by dm561＠torfree.net

-------------Original Message: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:27:26 -0700 From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> Subject: Re: Reading ancient paper digital media (was Re: Hamurabi Focal source) <snip> >Watching the thing read at 1200 cards per minute is pretty impressive. <snip> --Chuck ------------Reply: Watching one *jam* at 1200 cards per minute is even more impressive, especially if the sensors are dirty or misadjusted (and *especially* if you have to recreate the damaged cards manually)... mike

14 years, 1 month

CDC 9-Track SCSI Tape Drive FREE!

by mikelee＠tdh.com

I rescued this thing from a computer store in the area a couple years ago, and I think it's time to pass it on. From what I was told and what I can tell, this is a CDC 9-track SCSI tape drive that was removed from it's original rack/chassis. At the time, this computer store used it to do some data recovery on some 1980 census tapes from Chicago, and they had rigged this to a more modern SCSI based PC to do so. So I don't know what condition it is currently in, and no idea if it works still, but it did before it was stashed away into storage from what I understand. If you want it, I can ship it at your expense or more than happy to pass it along any other means possible, it is located in the Chicagoland area. Temporarily posted pictures at: http://www.merry-xmas.net/9track/ Mike

14 years, 1 month

HSJ50 w/ CI interface on eBay?

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Noticed eBay auction /#/380220354709 - some collection of HSJ50 bits and what look suspiciously like some CI ports. Does an HSJ even have the capability to support CI? I never really dealt with HSCs back in the day, or the intelligent storage controllers from the BA35x era. Anyway if it does support a CI interface, I thought it might be a cheaper way for somebody with a larger VAX to get closer-to-modern storage and much lower electric bills than using SDI or HSC options. Doesn't do me much good for my 11/730, so go for it. No connection to the seller, and no comment regarding the asking price... Share and enjoy! --Steve.

14 years, 1 month

Can someone confirm this chip equivalence?

by joachim.thiemann＠gmail.com

Hello, I'm repairing my A1010 Amiga external floppy drive - the actual drive works (tested by plugging it into the internal A500 floppy connector), so the fault should be on the latch board inside; there are two chips, a 74LS74 D Flip-Flop and one chip (also 14 pin) with number M53238P preceded by the Mitsubishi logo. Given the required function, and connections on the adapter board, I am 99% sure that it's a 74LS38 Quad NAND open-collector equivalent - but googling doesn't turn up a datasheet, just a gazillion chinese parts vendors. Can someone just confirm this in a cross-reference? Or a A1010 schematic? Or their own drive? Thanks, Joe. PS. Symptom is that the drive clicks but never spins. I've already taken out the chips and replaced them - this time in sockets. So if I'm wrong it's a simple matter of undoing the 20-odd screws yet again (Verdammte Post mit deren entstoerregelungen von damals...) and replacing the chip. I just want to double-check before plugging it into the A500 again tonight. -- Joachim Thiemann :: http://www.tsp.ece.mcgill.ca/~jthiem

14 years, 1 month

PDP5 Emulator?

by bqt＠softjar.se

Martin Goldberg <wgungfu at gmail.com> wrote: > Someone from the IGDA-Preservation group is in the process of > transferring old DEC game code printouts in to text files, and was > wondering if any one from the list knew if there was a PDP5 emulator > (as a bunch of this is PDP5 in origin)? > > He may also require assistance in checking some of the assembly, as > the printouts and copies are not always clear enough to read > accurately. > > Any help would be appreciated, and I'll pass the info on. Depending on the code, it might be runnable on a PDP8. The main differences between the PDP5 and PDP8, as far as I can remember, is that the PDP5 keeps the PC at address 0, and stores the old PC at address 1 when an interrupt happens, while the PDP8 have the PC as a separate CPU registers, and stores the old PC at address 0 when an interrupt occurs. And some (combinations of) OPR instructions don't work on the PDP5. But that should not be a problem if you just take the program to a PDP8. So, unless the program in question needs interrupts, or play directly with the PC, I believe it might run on a PDP8. Johnny

14 years, 1 month

Linctape reading?

by bqt＠softjar.se

Philipp Hachtmann <hachti at hachti.de> wrote: > Hi folks, > > it's probably a laughable idea but... Is it possible to read LINCtapes with a TU56 and a TD8E > DECTape controller? I could imagine that it's possible due to the simple design of the TD8E > controller - most work is done in software... Nothing laughable about it. As far as I know, it should work just fine. > I just stumbled across a few of those tapes with unknown content. I first thought that I got a > DECTape which was wound to the wrong side. I just tried it out. The DECTape system seemed to > recognize just something on the tape - as it "rewound" the tape just up to the "beginning". And > then it was not able to read something, of course. > Oh, it would be fine if LINCtape reading on TD8E was possible - and readily implemented... > > Best wishes, > > Philipp > > > P.S.: I probably won't be able to give those tapes away without cleaning them... So offers to look > at them for me are quite useless :-( > If I do not find means to read the tapes, I'll degauss them. Or simply reformat them. Or both for a > clean tape start. Most of it seems to be working data. And some obscure software I don't know (yet). When you need to understand is that you can't use any "normal" software to read them, and that include any device drivers. The tapes are written in the other direction. And that's something the device driver is involved in. As far as I know, you can actually use any DECtape controller to read/write the tapes, not just the TD8E. But the same problem applies to all of them. You need a special device driver. But apart from that, it should be pretty straight forward. You basically do eveything the same way you would do with DECtapes, except you set the transport direction inverted to what a DECtape would do for all operations. DECtape and LINCtape are clever in the way they identify blocks though, so that the block markers can be detected the same no matter which way the transport is moving, which is why you seem to recognize the tapes somehow. (The tape markers were designed so that the fluxes would become the same no matter which direction you read them.) One last thing. It *might* be that you'll have to do some bitfiddling after reading the tapes. A DECtape (and LINCtape) records only three bits at a time. When reading forward, you read 4 rows to get all 12 bits. And of course, they get stuffed in a certain order. Reading in reverse means you get groups of 3 bits possibly shuffled around, as well as being inverted. Depending on the LINCtape format, and how the TD8E reacts, things might end up just right, or might require the bit fiddling. You'll have to experiment... Johnny

14 years, 1 month

Linctape reading?

by hachti＠hachti.de

Hi folks, it's probably a laughable idea but... Is it possible to read LINCtapes with a TU56 and a TD8E DECTape controller? I could imagine that it's possible due to the simple design of the TD8E controller - most work is done in software... I just stumbled across a few of those tapes with unknown content. I first thought that I got a DECTape which was wound to the wrong side. I just tried it out. The DECTape system seemed to recognize just something on the tape - as it "rewound" the tape just up to the "beginning". And then it was not able to read something, of course. Oh, it would be fine if LINCtape reading on TD8E was possible - and readily implemented... Best wishes, Philipp P.S.: I probably won't be able to give those tapes away without cleaning them... So offers to look at them for me are quite useless :-( If I do not find means to read the tapes, I'll degauss them. Or simply reformat them. Or both for a clean tape start. Most of it seems to be working data. And some obscure software I don't know (yet). -- http://www.hachti.de

14 years, 1 month

PET 4032 keyboard scanning problem / was Re: Anyone have an image of a Japanese PET chrgen ROM 901447-12?

by dm561＠torfree.net

-----------------Original Message: Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:28:58 -0700 From: Brent Hilpert <hilpert at cs.ubc.ca> Subject: PET 4032 keyboard scanning problem / was Re: Anyone have an image of a Japanese PET chrgen ROM 901447-12? Speaking of early Commodore PETs, I have here a 4032 on which some of the keys do not work. Some time ago I took a brief look at it and, as I recall, concluded the problem was not the keyboard but rather something was messed up with the scanning, something like not all columns/rows being scanned. I think it was a 6821 or 6822 or some such doing the I/O, but the diagnosis was perhaps more suggestive of something like a PROM bit failure causing the firmware program to foreshorten the scan sequence. Anyone have knowledge of a known failure mode of this sort with these machines? --------------------Reply: The most common problem is just oxidation and/or wear of the rubber 'contacts' and the PCB grid; if you're lucky a good cleaning will clear it up, in case of bad wear of the conductive pads you may have to recoat them with conductive paint ot glue little pads of aluminum foil or aluminized mylar on to them. Electronically they are a normal scanned matrix, driven by a 6520 PIA (UB12?) and a muliplexer; if there is a problem there then it would most likely be with all the keys in a certain row or column. I suppose it's possible, but I'd be very surprised if it were a bad ROM. Check the schematic and you should be able to jumper across the appropriate keyboard lines to test all the rows and columns. http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/schematics/computers/pet/8032/803202…

14 years, 1 month

PDP5 Emulator?

by wgungfu＠gmail.com

Someone from the IGDA-Preservation group is in the process of transferring old DEC game code printouts in to text files, and was wondering if any one from the list knew if there was a PDP5 emulator (as a bunch of this is PDP5 in origin)? He may also require assistance in checking some of the assembly, as the printouts and copies are not always clear enough to read accurately. Any help would be appreciated, and I'll pass the info on. Thanks! Marty

14 years, 1 month

Dayton Hamvention

by marvin＠west.net

As it is getting close to the date for the Dayton Hamvention, is anyone on the list going to be at Dayton? My plan is to be there with two selling spots (one to park in) and see what kind of "stuff" I can get rid of. If we have a few people there, it might be fun to have a Saturday night dinner at one of the local restaurants.

14 years, 1 month

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test-drb April 2010