nope... you need whatroute
http://www.whatroute.net/
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Brian Lanning <brianlanning at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Brian Lanning <brianlanning at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Classic mac fun (and some questions)
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 1:15 PM
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:11 PM,
> Cameron Kaiser<spectre at floodgap.com>
> wrote:
> >> > You should see (the Q700 has built-in
> Ethernet IIRC) something like
> >> > LocalTalk and the built-in Ethernet. Select
> Ethernet in MacTCP, and click
> >> > More... if you want to adjust things like
> subnet mask and so on.
> >> > If you are using an ENet card in one of the
> NuBus slots, make sure you
> >> > have a driver for it. I would just use the
> built-in ENet; AAUI connectors
> >> > are dirt-cheap and common as, well, dirt.
> >>
> >> I have the AAUI connector. I'm thinking it's
> working since I get a
> >> light on the hub. ?I was able to switch it from
> appletalk to tcp/ip
> >> and set it to dhcp, but it looks like it didn't
> even try to ask for an
> >> ip address.
> >
> > I've never used MacTCP for DHCP. Assign it a static
> address first and
> > see how far you get.
>
>
> ok.? I'm lost without a command line.? Is there a
> version of ping in
> there somewhere?? What about samba/windows shares or
> maybe ftp?
>
> brian
>
Thanks for the info, "receptacles" got hundred of items, though few
seem to be on plates UK style and none in boxes like a UK 'metal clad'
socket, but I can cut suitable holes in a few project boxes so not
really a problem. There was a splash proof socket in a box but I don't
really want a flip up cover on a permanent installation.
Thank again.
On 26 May 2009, at 04:52, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:59:21 -0400
> From: tiggerlasv at aim.com
> Subject: IBM 029 Keypunch has arrived
> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
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>
> On Mon May 25, Roger Holmes wrote:
>
>> I have searched though eBay for normal US wall sockets and to
>> my surprise cannot find them. I've tried all sorts of search terms
> but
>> obviously have not hit the right combination, unless there is some
> law
>> which prohibits them being sold retail or something like that.
>
>
> Not too many folks out here refer to them as sockets anymore;
> that term is typically reserved for light bulbs, though there is some
> variation,
> based on age, and geographical location.
>
> Generally, people call them "outlets", but the NEMA terminology is
> "receptacle".
>
> Do an e-bay search on: +receptacle 20A 20 Amp (include the +
> sign)
>
> check-mark "include titles and descriptions" . . . and then sort by
> price+shipping lowest first.
>
> That should help you find what you're looking for. . .
>
>
>
Does anyone have a DEC VT52 (or any of the VT5x series really) and the
means to read out the 8 firmware PROMS on the rom/uart board, and/or the
character ROM? The MESS team is trying to get ahold of this data for
preservation/emulation.
The PROM chips (according to the schematic on bitsavers:
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal/vt52/MP00035_VT52schem.pdf)
are 82s129 or pinout compatible with 82s129 (or maybe the open collector
82s126 version?). According to the maintenance manual (also on
bitsavers:
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal/vt52/EK-VT52-MM-002_maint_Jul78.p…
page titled A-02) there are three different 'prom sets' of this firmware
for the vt52 (and since the prom sets can be upgraded, I'm guessing
they're socketed).
Also, the MESS team is looking for a dump of the character generator
rom; there are two versions of this rom, and the chip is an early
non-jedec pinout ?mask? rom; the pinout is listed on the schematic on
page 43. (It happens to have a nearly identical pinout to the MCM6830A
?eprom? used on the early heathkit et4000 non-a units)
Thanks everyone for your time, and have a good day!
--
Jonathan Gevaryahu AKA Lord Nightmare
jgevaryahu at comcast.net
jgevaryahu at hotmail.com
I don't have this anymore other wise I would send it to you but if you can find a copy of FWB Hard Disk Tool Kit.. It will help you mount pretty much anything. It will handle the CD-ROM problem.. FWB is no longer is business but the software is the best.
You wont be able to mount DVDs on 7.6..
I think I was up to 9.2 before I got a DVD drive..
I do recommend getting an Apple CD ROM because if you want to upgrade the OS from a CD you will need a bootable CD ROM drive and those are the best.
>
>
>They're double-sided disks. Not too uncommon. If you want to see some
>really strange 8" floppy disks, I have a box of Memorex disks that are
>hard-sectored and have the sector/index hole near the outer edge of the
>disk, rather than near the rim.
>
I had a drive that used those disks. I think it was the first 8" drive
I had, and was never able to use it. It was a memorex drive as I recall.
Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM, John Floren <slawmaster at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Interesting, I didn't know a /23 could run V7--all I know for sure is
>> > that it works on /45s and /70s. Do you know any other machines it runs
>> > on? I'd like to try installing on my 11/73 (KDJ11-A) if possible.
>
> I think it would come down to disk drivers. If the kernel will run on
> an 11/70, there's no difference I can think of off the top of my head
> why it wouldn't run on a KDJ-11, unless there's something about the
> 22-bit Unibus mapping on the 11/70 vs no mapping on the Qbus.
Yikes! No, I would not expect it to work well at all.
The first, and most obvious problem is the bus. The Unibus is an 18-bit
address bus, while the q-bus is 22-bits. So, an 11/70 have a Unibus map
which is involved in all DMA from the Unibus. The q-bus don't have
anything like that.
This obviously affects all device drivers doing DMA.
And then we have the obvious problem that the most likely disks used on
V7 would have been massbus disks, which you have no correspondance to on
a q-bus. But even with disks of a similar nature, such an RL, there are
still differences between the controllers, so that you can't just run
the version from a unibus on a q-bus machine without a little modification.
I don't know how much features V7 uses, but there are plenty of things
in the 11/70 which the KDJ11 don't do. Stack limits are different. The
MMU is different (although I don't think anyone uses the 11/70-specific
features).
Now V7 is old enough to not make much use of the hardware, which still
makes it easier to get it running on different machines (no split I/D
space, no supervisor mode stuff). So, as always, it is possible, but you
can't just drop the software in, and expect it to run.
> Disks, though... a 11/73 is likely to have an MSCP disk controller,
> but the 11/70 has quite a number of supported disk controllers.
True.
> I'd look at the 7th Ed. sources and the install process to see what
> 7th Ed. is expecting to load onto.
You need to rewrite things. There is no way you can get something
written for the Unibus, and large memory, work on a q-bus without
rewriting some stuff.
Johnny
--
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Here's a strange one: I recently acquired two Shugart 851 drives from
another cctech-er. They were in nice shape and operate fine. The weird
part is their form-factor.
I have 8 or 10 other 8" drives in my collection, both half-height and
full-height, including two other 851 Shugarts. All of these are 8.5"
wide, with faceplate and frame being exactly the same size.
These two "new" Shugart units are _9.5"_ wide at the faceplate and require
a clearance of about 9-1/8" for the frame. Can anyone explain this odd
sizing? Were they perhaps manufactured against an earlier standard?
Color me puzzled...
Steve
--
A friend of mine just obtained an AS400.
It is a "9406-170 System S104V7NM Subsystem QCTL".
I know nothing of AS400s. He did say it boots.
So, what specs are this ? What does it run (OS ?, Apps ?),
and what can be done with it (he was originally going to use
it as an end table !!! until he found it actually booted).
-- Curt
