test-drb June 2009

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by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

nope... you need whatroute http://www.whatroute.net/ --- On Fri, 6/5/09, Brian Lanning <brianlanning at gmail.com> wrote: > From: Brian Lanning <brianlanning at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Classic mac fun (and some questions) > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 1:15 PM > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:11 PM, > Cameron Kaiser<spectre at floodgap.com> > wrote: > >> > You should see (the Q700 has built-in > Ethernet IIRC) something like > >> > LocalTalk and the built-in Ethernet. Select > Ethernet in MacTCP, and click > >> > More... if you want to adjust things like > subnet mask and so on. > >> > If you are using an ENet card in one of the > NuBus slots, make sure you > >> > have a driver for it. I would just use the > built-in ENet; AAUI connectors > >> > are dirt-cheap and common as, well, dirt. > >> > >> I have the AAUI connector. I'm thinking it's > working since I get a > >> light on the hub. ?I was able to switch it from > appletalk to tcp/ip > >> and set it to dhcp, but it looks like it didn't > even try to ask for an > >> ip address. > > > > I've never used MacTCP for DHCP. Assign it a static > address first and > > see how far you get. > > > ok.? I'm lost without a command line.? Is there a > version of ping in > there somewhere?? What about samba/windows shares or > maybe ftp? > > brian >

15 years, 1 month

receptacles (was IBM 029 Keypunch has arrived)

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

Thanks for the info, "receptacles" got hundred of items, though few seem to be on plates UK style and none in boxes like a UK 'metal clad' socket, but I can cut suitable holes in a few project boxes so not really a problem. There was a splash proof socket in a box but I don't really want a flip up cover on a permanent installation. Thank again. On 26 May 2009, at 04:52, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:59:21 -0400 > From: tiggerlasv at aim.com > Subject: IBM 029 Keypunch has arrived > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Message-ID: <8CBAB820C803DA9-1424-14FD at WEBMAIL-MZ08.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > On Mon May 25, Roger Holmes wrote: > >> I have searched though eBay for normal US wall sockets and to >> my surprise cannot find them. I've tried all sorts of search terms > but >> obviously have not hit the right combination, unless there is some > law >> which prohibits them being sold retail or something like that. > > > Not too many folks out here refer to them as sockets anymore; > that term is typically reserved for light bulbs, though there is some > variation, > based on age, and geographical location. > > Generally, people call them "outlets", but the NEMA terminology is > "receptacle". > > Do an e-bay search on: +receptacle 20A 20 Amp (include the + > sign) > > check-mark "include titles and descriptions" . . . and then sort by > price+shipping lowest first. > > That should help you find what you're looking for. . . > > >

15 years, 1 month

DEC vt52 question: rom dumps

by jgevaryahu＠comcast.net

Does anyone have a DEC VT52 (or any of the VT5x series really) and the means to read out the 8 firmware PROMS on the rom/uart board, and/or the character ROM? The MESS team is trying to get ahold of this data for preservation/emulation. The PROM chips (according to the schematic on bitsavers: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal/vt52/MP00035_VT52schem.pdf) are 82s129 or pinout compatible with 82s129 (or maybe the open collector 82s126 version?). According to the maintenance manual (also on bitsavers: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal/vt52/EK-VT52-MM-002_maint_Jul78.p… page titled A-02) there are three different 'prom sets' of this firmware for the vt52 (and since the prom sets can be upgraded, I'm guessing they're socketed). Also, the MESS team is looking for a dump of the character generator rom; there are two versions of this rom, and the chip is an early non-jedec pinout ?mask? rom; the pinout is listed on the schematic on page 43. (It happens to have a nearly identical pinout to the MCM6830A ?eprom? used on the early heathkit et4000 non-a units) Thanks everyone for your time, and have a good day! -- Jonathan Gevaryahu AKA Lord Nightmare jgevaryahu at comcast.net jgevaryahu at hotmail.com

15 years, 1 month

Classic mac fun (and some questions)

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

I don't have this anymore other wise I would send it to you but if you can find a copy of FWB Hard Disk Tool Kit.. It will help you mount pretty much anything. It will handle the CD-ROM problem.. FWB is no longer is business but the software is the best. You wont be able to mount DVDs on 7.6.. I think I was up to 9.2 before I got a DVD drive.. I do recommend getting an Apple CD ROM because if you want to upgrade the OS from a CD you will need a bootable CD ROM drive and those are the best.

15 years, 1 month

Looking for a Wameco CPU card for a QM-1A

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

I got my hands on a nice Wameco QM-1A board Here is a pic: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_gUrHnv1nh-4/ShtCKBhWr6I/AAAAAAAAAh4/K-86gLf7Nl4/s720/… I am looking for a CPU card for this. If someone has one that they don't want and is reasonable please let me know. Please contact me off-list. Thanks

15 years, 1 month

8" Floppies

by les＠hildenbrandt.com

> > >They're double-sided disks. Not too uncommon. If you want to see some >really strange 8" floppy disks, I have a box of Memorex disks that are >hard-sectored and have the sector/index hole near the outer edge of the >disk, rather than near the rim. > I had a drive that used those disks. I think it was the first 8" drive I had, and was never able to use it. It was a memorex drive as I recall.

15 years, 1 month

UNIX on PDP-11s

by bqt＠softjar.se

Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM, John Floren <slawmaster at gmail.com> wrote: >> > Interesting, I didn't know a /23 could run V7--all I know for sure is >> > that it works on /45s and /70s. Do you know any other machines it runs >> > on? I'd like to try installing on my 11/73 (KDJ11-A) if possible. > > I think it would come down to disk drivers. If the kernel will run on > an 11/70, there's no difference I can think of off the top of my head > why it wouldn't run on a KDJ-11, unless there's something about the > 22-bit Unibus mapping on the 11/70 vs no mapping on the Qbus. Yikes! No, I would not expect it to work well at all. The first, and most obvious problem is the bus. The Unibus is an 18-bit address bus, while the q-bus is 22-bits. So, an 11/70 have a Unibus map which is involved in all DMA from the Unibus. The q-bus don't have anything like that. This obviously affects all device drivers doing DMA. And then we have the obvious problem that the most likely disks used on V7 would have been massbus disks, which you have no correspondance to on a q-bus. But even with disks of a similar nature, such an RL, there are still differences between the controllers, so that you can't just run the version from a unibus on a q-bus machine without a little modification. I don't know how much features V7 uses, but there are plenty of things in the 11/70 which the KDJ11 don't do. Stack limits are different. The MMU is different (although I don't think anyone uses the 11/70-specific features). Now V7 is old enough to not make much use of the hardware, which still makes it easier to get it running on different machines (no split I/D space, no supervisor mode stuff). So, as always, it is possible, but you can't just drop the software in, and expect it to run. > Disks, though... a 11/73 is likely to have an MSCP disk controller, > but the 11/70 has quite a number of supported disk controllers. True. > I'd look at the 7th Ed. sources and the install process to see what > 7th Ed. is expecting to load onto. You need to rewrite things. There is no way you can get something written for the Unibus, and large memory, work on a q-bus without rewriting some stuff. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

15 years, 1 month

Question re: 8" drive form-factor

by snhirsch＠gmail.com

Here's a strange one: I recently acquired two Shugart 851 drives from another cctech-er. They were in nice shape and operate fine. The weird part is their form-factor. I have 8 or 10 other 8" drives in my collection, both half-height and full-height, including two other 851 Shugarts. All of these are 8.5" wide, with faceplate and frame being exactly the same size. These two "new" Shugart units are _9.5"_ wide at the faceplate and require a clearance of about 9-1/8" for the frame. Can anyone explain this odd sizing? Were they perhaps manufactured against an earlier standard? Color me puzzled... Steve --

15 years, 1 month

More vintage hardware still alive and kickin'

by mross666＠hotmail.com

Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RCgIrZiC6c Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009

15 years, 1 month

IBM AS400 inquiry

by rescue＠hawkmountain.net

A friend of mine just obtained an AS400. It is a "9406-170 System S104V7NM Subsystem QCTL". I know nothing of AS400s. He did say it boots. So, what specs are this ? What does it run (OS ?, Apps ?), and what can be done with it (he was originally going to use it as an end table !!! until he found it actually booted). -- Curt

15 years, 1 month

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test-drb June 2009