ebay: 320349058642
I'm sure it's a collector's item. But this stuff blows my mind. I
had one of these along with a few other vintage items that I'm ashamed
to say that I ditched long ago, including a certain red and white
computer that plugged into a famous video game console from a certain
japanese company. :-(
brian
I have one with the keyboard, monitor & printer..
No so clean tough...
But yea that's REALLY high.
--- On Fri, 3/13/09, James Fogg <james at jdfogg.com> wrote:
From: James Fogg <james at jdfogg.com>
Subject: Re: Amazed by prices
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 8:57 PM
> ebay:???320349058642
>
> I'm sure it's a collector's item.? But this stuff blows my mind.? I
> had one of these along with a few other vintage items that I'm ashamed
> to say that I ditched long ago, including a certain red and white
> computer that plugged into a famous video game console from a certain
> japanese company. :-(
I need to watch that auction since I have one of these with the monitor
and keyboard and I could use the money.
--
James -
Certified autodidactic polymath and proud of it!
I've recently got hold of a pair of DECMate IIIs and would like to get
them up and running with OS/278. Unfortunately they didn't come with any
media so I'm wondering if anyone knows of a site that has some suitable
boot images that I can copy onto 5.25" floppies with PUTR
I've found some images on sunsite and update.uu.se however these are in
teledisk format. Is it possible to turn these back into a straight
physical image suitable for use with PUTR?
Thanks,
Toby
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> ebay: 320349058642
> I'm sure it's a collector's item. But this stuff blows my mind. I
> had one of these along with a few other vintage items that I'm ashamed
> to say that I ditched long ago
The auction is for a very clean monochrome original 5150 PC with every bit
of verison 1 software.
My bets are it will go for well over the $1200 start.
--
FWIW, we were surprised to discover that no one at CHM had never bothered
to aquire a 5170 (PC-AT) or RT/PC.
Now, I'm trying to find clean original IBM 5 1/4" inch half-height drives
for the 5170 we got, and the correct vintage keyboard.
> So did we ever learn anything about VCF West 2009?
>
> I had emailed Sellam a while back but haven't heard back.
>
> In fact, when Sellam wanted someone to rescue that Microdata Reality
> machine in Sandy, UT, I emailed him but didn't get a reply to that
> either. Was the machine rescued? This was Sellam's original message:
Hi Richard and Everyone.
First, apologies to everyone to whom I'm currently obligated in some way.
Things have been hectic for me for quite some time. The economic collapse
has been particularly burdensome on my end, so I'm dealing with several
major issues. On top of that I broke my ankle in a fall a few weeks ago.
I just had minor surgery yesterday to remove some bone fragments. I'm
trying to take advantage of the situation as best I can to use the time to
catch up on things I've put off for too long.
Regarding the VCF (the main west coast event) it will PROBABLY be back
this year, as planned. I say PROBABLY in caps because I'm of the economic
school of theory that says we are not coming out of this one as we went
in, so I don't know what to expect by the time the VCF usually rolls
around. All I can promise is to just wait for the announcement if
there's a feasible possibility of pulling off an event.
As you all know, there was no VCF (west) in 2008. Perhaps a (brief)
explanation is in order. In 2007, at the milestone capping VCF X event, I
had made it clear to anyone who asked that I was planning to take a break
>from the VCF for 2008. Things were getting tougher and I knew that an
economic collapse was coming. I also was very worn out from ten years of
producing the VCF (not to mention my normal work) and looked forward to a
year without the slow build of pressure that occurs in the lead up to each
VCF event. Every year it became harder and harder to get going on the
event, and so I knew a break was needed. And of course, right on schedule
the economy collapsed. The VCF would have been right in the middle of it,
so my prescience was vindicated.
Do know that the regional events are all still on schedule, including a
new South event in Irving, Texas tomorrow:
http://www.vintage.org/2009/lite/
This is a "VCF Lite", not a full-blown event, but Gil Carrick (the
organizer) will be expanding it to a full VCF event next year.
VCF Europa 10.0 is on schedule for May 1-3 (a 3-day event!) in Munich,
Germany:
http://vcfe.org/
VCF Midwest in its new Chicago location is on track, but no announcement
has been made yet.
And VCF East has been scheduled for September 12-13 at the usual location
in Wall, NJ (InfoAge Science Center).
As far as the Microdata Reality, I have no good excuse for not having
gotten back to the folks who inquired, other than laziness and a sense of
being overwhelmed. I just sent out respones to those who inquiried, so
thanks for the nudge.
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Hi Robert,
I can probably provide you with the DEQNA->AUI cabling. I have a box
full of them. I'm also in he UK. Contact me off list and I'll get one in
the post.
Toby
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 22:54 +0000, Robert Jarratt wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I don't really have anything that you want, but I am looking for a small
> item you may be able to help me with. I recently bought a MicroVAX II and
> then bought a DEQNA for it. I have yet to power them on (you may have seen a
> thread of mine on the PSU problem I have been having). The thing I don't
> have is the cabinet kit for the DEQNA. I wonder if you have one, or even
> just the cable from the DEQNA to an AUI connector, basically anything that
> would let me connect the DEQNA to the network. By the way I am in the UK
> too, Stockport to be precise.
>
> Regards
>
> Rob
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
> > bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jim Beacon
> > Sent: 09 March 2009 19:47
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> > Subject: Re: More surplus stuff
> >
> > Should have said - this stuff is in the UK.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Beacon" <jim at g1jbg.co.uk>
> > To: "Classic computer list" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:31 PM
> > Subject: More surplus stuff
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > more surplus stuff, this is for collection only!
> >
> > A number of PDP 11/73 systems. These systems consist of a rackmount
> > BA23
> > box containing the standard PSU, processor, memory, two DEQNA and an
> > Emulex
> > serial port controller. They have no disk drive or controller - they
> > net
> > booted RSX11. Most of them have front panels, and I have some sets of
> > rack
> > mount rails (panels and rails only available with complete system). I
> > probably have twelve systems available.
> >
> > Three Videcom terminals - unsure of the model number, but a fairly
> > standard
> > ASCII terminal.
> >
> > In exchange, I'm looking for some or all of the following:
> >
> > Tektronix terminal (4010 or similar)
> > uVAX 1 or 2 cards (I have more of the BA23 boxes).
> > PDP11/93 processor.
> > PDP11/24
> > PDP 11/04
> > PDP8A (well, we live in hope....)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> >
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Hi All,
more surplus stuff, this is for collection only!
A number of PDP 11/73 systems. These systems consist of a rackmount BA23 box containing the standard PSU, processor, memory, two DEQNA and an Emulex serial port controller. They have no disk drive or controller - they net booted RSX11. Most of them have front panels, and I have some sets of rack mount rails (panels and rails only available with complete system). I probably have twelve systems available.
Three Videcom terminals - unsure of the model number, but a fairly standard ASCII terminal.
In exchange, I'm looking for some or all of the following:
Tektronix terminal (4010 or similar)
uVAX 1 or 2 cards (I have more of the BA23 boxes).
PDP11/93 processor.
PDP11/24
PDP 11/04
PDP8A (well, we live in hope....)
Thanks
Jim.
Hi Brian.
I've dealt with Fox Electronics on several occasions. They are primarily
a chip recycler but also recycle other computer components such as hard
drives and memory.
I know Brad Fox (co-owner) and he's one of the nicest guys you'll ever
meet. I sold him several batches of scrap circuit boards from my
electronics recycling business over the past few years, plus other
miscellaneous e-waste. One time I was there and he had a Terminator 2
arcade game that he gave me (which I recently traded for a Super Off-Road
:)
They used to be in San Jose but they moved their facility to Hayward. I
don't know that they'd necessarily have anything in the way of
retrocomputers, but it doesn't hurt to call and ask.
There are so many electroncis recyclers now, especially in the Bay Area
but also all over California, that most classic stuff that's still out
there probably goes to scrap. My business occasionally gets some nice old
iron, but definitely the bulk of it (99+%) is modern computer crap.
Hitting these guys up to come out and look at their stuff will be a mixed
bag. The smaller guys will, most of which are little one or two man
shops, will probably welcome you, but the bigger operations probably won't
unless you approach them more formally and explain your motives. Most of
them are in it to convert electronics to scrap for pennies by the pound,
and wouldn't know how to identify a vintage IBM from a modern one.
However, if you give them model numbers, photos, etc. and specify a price
over scrap, most of them would probably jump at the chance to make more
money by selling the thing to you whole rather than put the labor into
tearing it down to sell as scrap.
With commodity prices at their current lows, it wouldn't take much to beat
scrap values, with the exception being computers with boards that have
heavy gold plating. Circuit boards are currently fetching around maybe
$1.70-$2.00/pound, so even old HP gear can be had for very reasonable
prices if you make an offer too good to refuse. Let's say a rack of HP
1000 equipment weights 500 pounds, perhaps 75 of which is circuit boards.
Offer them $200 for it and they'll probably ask you if they can load it
for you.
Good hunting.
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As I mentioned in another thread, I spent a little time inside my HP120
today. I've had another look at the keyboard interface.
Of the 6 pins on the keyboard connector :
1 is not conencted
2 are +12V and ground
2 are outputs (machine to keybaord)
and 1 is an inputer (keyoard to machine)
The 2 outputs are a scan clock (pulse to move to the next key in the
matrix) and reset (start at the first key again). The input is, of
course, to indicate if the selected key is pressed. These logic signals
operate ate 12V levels
It is electrically indentical to the HP150 (origianl, not 150-II)
keyboard interface. To the extent you cao plug an HP150 keyboard into an
Hp120 without damage (I have done this after some careful checking). It
doesn't work properly because the keyboard matrix is totally differnt (so
keys to not produce the characters marked on them, and worse still, some
keys don't exist), but it does something.
The HP150 keyboard electroncis is quite simple. It consists of 5
4000-seires CMOS chips. A 4024 counter is driven by the 2 outputs from
the computer (via diode/resistor protection networks). A couple of 4028
decoders, driven by the counter, with a 4011 gate to inver the D input of
one of them, scan the columns of the switch matrix. A 4051 mux, also
driven by the counter, cans the rows. And the output of that is is
buffered by a couple more 4011 gates and sent back to the computer.
By shorting outputs of the decoders to the inputs of the mux, I managed
to work out most of the HP120's keyboard matrix.
I how have a choice. I either copy the HP150 scan circuit (described
above) -- the chips are trivial to get -- and wire up a matrix of
switches. Or I make a little interface (presumaly using a
microcontroller) to like a PC keyboard to the HP120.
-tony
> Now, I can find _references_ to the DP8350 data sheet, but not the
> complete data sheet. Does anyone have that one?
It is in the 1980 IC Master. I will email again when it is on bitsavers.
