test-drb February 2009

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by toby＠coreware.co.uk

Hi, Apologies for the constant stream of questions at the moment, I hope I'm not consuming too much list bandwidth at the moment. I've brought my whole collection out of storage and I'm bringing them all back to working condition and going through a steep old learning curve with my Unibus machines! So here are the latest round of questions: 1. I have started work on a second 11/05 I have. At the moment it has a processor, an 8K core set, NPR cards and a pair of unibus terminators. At present when powered up the machine has its run light constantly on, shows what looks like a random set of lights on its address/data LEDs and doesn't respond on its console. I have tried swapping the CPU boards and core cards for known working cards with no success. I have also hooked up a scope and confirmed the power supply is supplying correct voltages. Any ideas on what could be causing the bus error? 2. I have a Plessy PM1116/B core card. This is a single slot solution consisting of driver/sense logic on a card and a core plane on a daughter board. Does anyone have any details/documentation on this card or any idea of what slot would be suitable to plug it into (on a 5 1/4" 11/05-8KW backplane). 3. I have an 11/34A (in 5 1/4" box) which is experiencing a similar constant run light problem to the 11/05. The machine has CPU cards, terminators, console card and a MOS memory board in it. With both terminators in, run light stays on. If I halt it, the bus error light is illuminated. If I remove the end terminator and power on, the console is responsive and I can deposit values into memory and read them back. As with the 11/05 I have connected a scope and checked the power lines are supplying the correct voltages without any oscillation. Any ideas? Many thanks, Toby -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

15 years, 10 months

HP Viper card

by jimgeneva＠dorisland.net

Would anyone have a pdf of the user manual for the hp 82321A Viper card? also does anyone know when doing an extended test at boot up is it normal to get the following errors CRT Alpha Failed Memory failed @ 00512001 Missing Keyboard I am using the 6.2 basic from the hp musuem in Australia. Jim

15 years, 10 months

Boot Disk Needed for Kaypro 2X

by laptoplarry＠gmail.com

The boot disk I have is looking for Turbo ROM. I guess I need one for the 2X (without Trubo ROM). Please help or point me in the right direction. Thanks! -Larry -- This is not an automated signature. I type this in to the bottom of every message.

15 years, 10 months

8048 Intel programming languages

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: 8048 Intel programming languages > From: Robert Borsuk <rborsuk at colourfull.com> > Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:19:04 -0500 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >>Does anyone know of any programming languages (compilers)released for >the intel 8048 microcontroller? > Lookup SDCC, Small Device C Compiler. Theres plenty of stuff for 8048/9 family and it's cousin the 8051. Allison > >Rob > > > >Rob Borsuk >email: rborsuk at colourfull.com >Colourfull Creations >Web: http://www.colourfull.com

15 years, 10 months

More PDP-11 questions

by bqt＠softjar.se

Tobias Russell <toby at coreware.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, > > Apologies for the constant stream of questions at the moment, I hope I'm > not consuming too much list bandwidth at the moment. I've brought my > whole collection out of storage and I'm bringing them all back to > working condition and going through a steep old learning curve with my > Unibus machines! Fun things to play with... :-) > So here are the latest round of questions: > > 1. I have started work on a second 11/05 I have. At the moment it has a > processor, an 8K core set, NPR cards and a pair of unibus terminators. > At present when powered up the machine has its run light constantly on, > shows what looks like a random set of lights on its address/data LEDs > and doesn't respond on its console. What do you mean by "NPR cards"? Technically there is no such thing. There is the bus grant cards, and the extended bus grant cards which also carry the NPR signal. The normal bus grant cards only carry BG signals, and thus you normally need to connect/disconnect the NPR wire on the backplane. The symptoms you describe sounds pretty much like an NPR signal problem, but of course, it could be a number of different things. > 2. I have a Plessy PM1116/B core card. This is a single slot solution > consisting of driver/sense logic on a card and a core plane on a > daughter board. Does anyone have any details/documentation on this card > or any idea of what slot would be suitable to plug it into (on a 5 1/4" > 11/05-8KW backplane). Normally I seem to remember that memory cards can go anywhere. You should of course check documentation, as the card can require specific voltages only available at certain slots. I don't have any documentation for that card. Bitsavers perhaps? > 3. I have an 11/34A (in 5 1/4" box) which is experiencing a similar > constant run light problem to the 11/05. The machine has CPU cards, > terminators, console card and a MOS memory board in it. With both > terminators in, run light stays on. If I halt it, the bus error light is > illuminated. > > If I remove the end terminator and power on, the console is responsive > and I can deposit values into memory and read them back. > > As with the 11/05 I have connected a scope and checked the power lines > are supplying the correct voltages without any oscillation. > > Any ideas? Once more: check the NPR signal. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

15 years, 10 months

Source for 20Mhz. DIP Z80

by snhirsch＠gmail.com

They exist, and are listed by DigiKey and Mouser as the dreaded "non-stock" items. From past experience, this means they will not lift a finger without an order for 1000s in hand. Zilog has, in theory, a sample portal. But they've outsourced their web site to Elbonia and it does not function to the extent of being able to complete my registration. Anyone know a source for onsie-twosies on these? Steve --

15 years, 10 months

Here is a Key Board 98155A

by larico＠mchsi.com

Here is a Key Board HP 8451A Diode Array UV-VIS Spectrophotometer 98155A

15 years, 10 months

DSD Diags disk found

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Fellow techies, While cleaning up today, I came across an 8" floppy in good condition, labeled as follows: P/N 060025 REV B DSD 880 DIAGNOSTIC DISKETTE SINGLE DENSITY, BOOTABLE (DSDMON) Considering that I've not done any 'classics' collecting for years, I have no use for it. However, I suspect it should be archived and made available for others. First person to offer me postage/handling costs (say, $5) can have it. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "Quid Malmborg in Plano..."

15 years, 10 months

Anyone have a line on batteries for the NLS portableoscilloscope?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Anyone have a line on batteries for the NLS portableoscilloscope? > From: "Roy J. Tellason" <rtellason at verizon.net> > Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:00:14 -0500 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >On Wednesday 04 February 2009 01:51:59 pm Ethan Dicks wrote: >> Hi, All, >> >> The topic of replacement batteries came up in the Yahoo Group >> for the RB5X, and someone posted a link for 2 volt 2.5 Amp-hour >> cells (which are apparently used in an older version of the robot >> than mine)... >> >> <http://www.batteryweb.com/hawkersla-detail.cfm?Model=0810-0004&label=singl >>ecell> >> >> I saw the image and immediately thought of my NLS portable oscilloscope. >> I'd love to refurb mine, but $45 in batteries is a little on the high >> side for me. >> Has anyone on the list replaced a set of this sort of battery, and does >> anyone know of a place that stocks them for a bit less? >> >> -ethan > >Are we talking about more or less standard gel cells? The 2V terminal voltage >would seem to indicate so. > >Those are *very* standardized, in terms of similar sizes being offered by a >great many different manufacturers. When I was doing the retail battery >thing some years back (roughly 1993-5), we carried PowerSonic and one other >brand I'm not remembering at the moment, and the sizes for similar >capacities was a pretty good match for the Panasonic units listed in the >Digi-Key catalog. Folks would come in with all sorts of other units and I >was usually able to match them up with something that would fit. > >I've never seen single cells, but we did have some 4V units which were only >two cells. Gates was a major provider of the single 2V cell in the "D" size with tabs on one end. NLS used three of them but a 6V monolythic battery with the same outer dimensions will also work fine as the tabs soldered to the rear board for mounting and to create a series connection. The only reason batteries are needed to run the NLS is the charger is way too small run run it directly. Allison >Capacity in any given size of box seems to gradually increase over time. I've >seen 6, 6.5, and 7AH in exactly the same size container, for example. > >Shipping is going to be the worst of it. I'd find some national chain >convenient to you (Batteries Plus being an example) and then see if you can >get them to order what you need, and it won't cost you for shipping at all. > >Feel free to direct any other battery-related questions my way, if you have >any. :-) > >-- >Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and >ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can >be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" >- >Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James >M Dakin

15 years, 10 months

Good docu on Mac

by halarewich＠gmail.com

Hey Just saw a good documentary Called Welcome To Macintosh on the history of the Mac and Apple here is a site for info http://www.welcometomacintosh.com/Welcome.html Chris

15 years, 10 months

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test-drb February 2009