Ian wrote:
> DEC loved that black filter foam that falls apart after fifteen
> or so years.
In the ozone of LA in the 80's, a more typical life for that foam
was 2 years or so before it fell apart.
After 4 years, it was nothing but a gooey yucky mess.
And that was the time in the shade;
Ozone+sunlight was far far worse to all sorts of stuff. Bike
tires made out of synthetic rubber would last for a few months;
real rubber had a chance of lasting a year or two.
Good that you found a source for small quantities; I always got the
equivalent from the HVAC suppliers and they sold it by the truckload only!
Tim.
I haven't seen anyone discuss this (nor is Google showing anything), so for all of you doing DEC restorations out there, I thought I'd pass along something I learned.
DEC loved that black filter foam that falls apart after fifteen or so years. I'm restoring a couple of VAX-11/785s and they were liberally dusted with black foam detritus. So I took a piece that wasn't beyond recognition to a local shop here in Seattle called Friendly Foam (www.friendlyfoam.com). They identified it as "40ppi (pores per [square] inch) reticulated foam." They were also kind enough to sell me several square feet of it. They warned me that yes, it will still fall apart after a couple of decades, but for now it looks sooo nice. The machines I'm restoring have good paint, so with the new foam in place they look like they just left Maynard. It's funny how the little touches make such a difference.
BTW, they also found adhesive-backed foam that is an exact match for the stuff DEC used on the cardcage cover panels.
I hope this helps everyone who's trying to keep their Olde Beastes healthy and happy. - Ian
UNIX is user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are.
Ian S. King, Vintage Systems Engineer
Vulcan, Inc.
http://www.pdpplanet.org
http://annarbor.craigslist.org/sys/854491984.html
SGI computers - $50 (OH MI Line)
I have 11 SGI computers. 5 indigo's, 2 inidigo2's,
3 indigo2 impacts, and an octane. I also have 2 21" SGI
monitors and 4 spare 13w3 cables. 2 SGI keyboards and one
mouse. Make an offer on all of it or let me know what you
want individually. I'd like to get rid of this stuff as
soon as possible.
[Not my listing.]
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Paul Santa-Maria
Maumee, Ohio USA
Chris,
Do you still have the motherboards available?
Fred
Fred M. Schwartz
Quality One Engravers, Inc.
9749 Crescent Center Drive, Unit 202
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
Phone (909) 989-3898 Fax (909) 989-8617
fred at q1engravers.com
During the period 1962-1966, members of the Tech Model Railroad Club
of MIT conceived and constructed an unusual use for telephone
equipment that functioned essentially as a combinatorial network.
Specifically, they used five10x10 crossbar switches and more than 100
wire-spring relays to construct a control system for their large
HO-gauge model railroad. Pictures of this control system can be seen
at http://tmrc.mit.edu/progress/images.tcl?year=2002&month=5&day=26.
Like all good electromechanical telephone systems, it remained in
service for almost 40 years, even surviving a move between buildings.
In 2002, it was replaced by an electronic system (not related to
telephone systems) and retired to the New England Museum of Telephony
("The Telephone Museum") in Ellsworth, Maine, where it has been
stored since that time. Unfortunately, the folks at that museum have
decided to "de-accession" it, as it is not really part of their
mission, and is taking up too much space. It is also likely to get
damaged by future activities near its present location. If you have
confirmed that someone or some organization would like it, please let
me know. The deadline before scrapping begins is October 15th.
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I'm in Livermore, CA.
No, they aren't radioactive. These were employed for use in mobile whole
body counters. The nearest they got to anything nuclear was if someone
who was heavily irradiated walked into the trailer where these were
installed.
I don't think shipping would be worth it unless you really want one. This
is more of a hail Mary before they get scrapped.
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Hi,
I have a Teac FD-235J drive (with the SCSI board on the base) for sale, this is $10 plus postage from the UK. The drive looks fine but I haven't tested it.
Regards,
John
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I have a Nicolet Z80 NICE in-circuit emulator.
Unlike a logic analyzer, it MUST replace the CPU
(cannot just clip over the CPU
since some signals are asserted or blocked).
1) The 40 pin DIP's pins are on the bottom of the box
so it plugs in directly, if there's space.
If there's NOT enough space,
it comes with a ribbon cable
but with .6" 40 pin dip-PINS on both ends.
Mine came with a hand-made PCB with 2: 40 pin sockets
hand-wired together to act as a F-F adapter.
Is there are more "graceful" way to handle that,
such as a female/socket 40 pin DIP connector
directly to ribbon cable?
There are compact gender changers for DB9/DB25 RS232
connectors, why not something similar for 40 pin DIP?
2) What if the CPU is soldered to the board?
Must I desolder it entirely, or just certain pins?
Thanks!
Jeff Jonas
jeffj at panix.com
I have about 7 complete 5' standard 19" cabinets for sale. I'm not sure
if they are genuine DEC (they are branded Helgeson Nuclear Services) but
they used to hold DEC equipment.
See them here:
http://siconic.com/crap/racks/
They have front and rear (locking) doors (some have key, others do not),
removable sides, an internal power strip, and come with optional blower.
I'd like $25 a piece, or give me $30 and I'll throw in a blower. The
price will approach scrap value as the quantity you buy increases. I
mean, really, offer me anything more than scrap value and you can have it.
Priority (and the lowest price) goes to someone who says they want them
all.
These will go to scrap in a few days if there are no takers.
Please contact me directly!
Thanks!
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