test-drb October 2008

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by rdawson16＠hotmail.com

Gang, I went to the Tektronix surplus sale today for the first time. Wow! welcome to Beaverton! I Picked up a 7004A and half a dozen plug ins for $90; 2006 cal tags on everything and it works fine. I also got a Dell P4 1.76 Ghz 40G hard drive PC for $35, boots up fine too. I plan to go on this by-monthly visit so if you need a good scope or parts let me know. I want a Ardent or Stellar or Stardent if any body finds one being dumped. Randy Dawson _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cn…

16 years, 2 months

need schematic for BLC 80/05 multibus board

by jonb＠meyersound.com

I am a volunteer at the Oakland Aviation Museum. We are trying to restore a 1980 vintage cockpit training system. It contains a Multibus board by National Semiconductor, model BLC 80/05 (along with dual CA Naked Minis, and several other 8085 boards). Evidently this is a knockoff of the Intel SBC 80/05. We are trying to locate documentation for this board so that we can repair it. We are in desperate need of a schematic. Even an SBC 80/05 schematic may help. Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. --jon CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attachment hereto may contain confidential information of Meyer Sound Laboratories, Incorporated and is intended for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient), you have received this message in error and any review, distribution, or copying of this message or any attachment hereto is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please promptly notify the sender and permanently delete it from your computer.

16 years, 2 months

NEC SX-4B on Ebay

by auringer＠tds.net

There is an NEC "supercomputer" currently with no bids ($100 starting) on Ebay (140272067125). I would hate to see it get scrapped, but I am not in a position to buy it. There are not many hits on the auction page, so I thought I would spread the word here. Only a few hours left. Jon

16 years, 2 months

A classic tale: looking for bits

by IanK＠vulcan.com

Not too long ago I scored a DEC VSXXX-AB graphics tablet on eBay, but after I'd put in the bid I realized I'd forgotten to verify that it came with the stylus and/or puck. Needless to say, it didn't. <sigh> So now I'm looking for one, the other, or preferably both, preferably not too costly (I want to hook this up to my own DECstation 5000 at home). Anyone have such a thing rattling about in a drawer? Thanks - Ian UNIX is user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. Ian S. King, Vintage Systems Engineer Vulcan, Inc. http://www.pdpplanet.org

16 years, 2 months

Looking for Gifford's Concurrent Dos-86 for CompuPro 8-16

by jimgeneva＠dorisland.net

Do you only have 8 inch disks or do you hae 5.25 disks as well? jim

16 years, 2 months

Things to do in Florida panhandle?

by evan＠snarc.net

I'm making plans to be in the Florida panhandle on May 2nd next year. (a relative's college graduation). I will be staying in Fort Walton Beach, although I can get a rental car. Anything to do there for a vintage computer geek like me? Or, anyone have a big collection there and just want to hang out?

16 years, 2 months

FS: $5 + $10 items

by rescue＠hawkmountain.net

$5 Items (plus actual ship, or you pick up in Sharon or Cambridge, MA) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- APEX Outlook EL-84DT (with the DT crossed out and SP handwritten) - 8 port serial concentrator Indigo 2 audio module - 2 available 4 x 8M 72 pin SIMMS for SGI with gold fingers - 2 sets available DEC Turbo Channel PMAG A card HP Printer PAL (turns LJ III, III/D/P, 4, 4P/L/PLUS, 5P) into laser fax machine - new sealed in box 2G SCA SCSI drive - multiple available 4G SCA SCSI drive - multiple available Maxtor MXT1240S 50 pin 1.2 G SCSI drive (3.5" HH) - these drives somtimes don't spin up on first power on SGI PM3 Indigo 2 CPU (200MHz 1M cache) $10 Items (plus actual ship, or you pick up in Sharon or Cambridge, MA) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9G SCA SCSI drive - multiple available SPARCClassic, no HD, 6 x 501-1991 SIMMs Ultra 10 with 333MHz 2M cache CPU, no ram, no HD Mouse Systems PC Jr Mouse (optical, no pad (could use pad from Sun)) 3Com 3C597TX Fast Ethernet EISA (use on Indigo 2 for 100baseTX !) Let me know if there is anything here you want.... before I scrap some of it, ebay other bits, etc... -- Curt

16 years, 2 months

2 items for $5

by rescue＠hawkmountain.net

pick any two items and they are just $5 + actual shipping costs. let me know ASAP if you want anything here, as this stuff will be going to the trash by Sunday. If you are local to me, you can pick up anything on this list for free.... but let me know ASAP so I can put it aside for you. PCI RAID card, SCSI HVD (differential), for Alpha (so I'm told) Sun 501-1720 SLC mainboard w/o NVRAM Sun 501-1720 SLC mainboard (w (dead?) NVRAM) 501-1840 Sbus expansion sbus card Coleco ADAM setup manual Artecon SmartBox adapter board (Artecon's version of sbus expansion) Global Villiage teleport Platinum Fax Modem model A812 (for Mac) Maxtor RXT-800S Magneto Optical drive (not tested (no media)) Syquest SparQ 1.0GB internal drive (not tested (no media)) Corporate Systems Center PCI DIFF SCSI card (HVD), for sparc ? Compaq drive 'sled' for Pentium II (and III ?) generation -- has the two purple tabs/levers on the left/right ediges LaCie FM radio tuner for Macs (ADB) Performance Technology PT-PCI450 SCSI 3 Ultra Wide Fast Diff (HVD) (Sun?) 2 PCI FDDI cards Olicom OC-3161 16 serial port ISA card (just ISA card) 2 x 5G + 1 x 4G laptop hard drives (password locked?) SyQuest EZ Drive 135M EZ135EXT,P/PORT parallel port drive untested SyQuest SQ555 40M drive Sun 501-1861 ELC board untested Apple QuickTake Battery Charger KB-39PA (4xAA charger) Sparcstation 20 hard drive 'carrier' 1G SCA scsi drives HP Deskjet 600Cse (needs new ink cartridge) Compaq PS4000 Power supply compaq part number 270371-001 HP C2490A 2G differential SCSI drives 3.5" HH (6 available) Compaq LCD front panel for Proliant 6000 and others Sealed Copy of PC Anywhere 9.0 Sealed copy of McAfee VirusScan Security Suite (from the 90s) -- Curt

16 years, 2 months

cctech Digest, Vol 62, Issue 34

by jefferwin＠gmail.com

> > <snip> > > > Ok, Jeff, I am wondering what you might be referring to. I think you > might be thinking of PL/M-86, which I'm not that familiar with. No, it's definitely PLM80 I am currently using. > > > Intel, generally, would issue two manuals for PL/M-80 (and ASM-80 as > well). One manual is the PL/M-80 Programming Manual and one is the > ISIS-II PL/M-80 Compiler Operator's Manual. I have in front of me the > "PL/M-80 Programming Manual", no. 9800268B, which is dated 1977, and the > DATA construct is in it. It is used at load time to set initial values > of variables. I believe that this manual applies to several versions of > PL/M-80, including V4 and earlier ones. It is basically a syntax manual. Well...if you are going to let facts get in the way.... Your actual manual wins out over my rusty brain cells. It is the manual above, the Programmers Manual, that I lust after. The one thing that seems to have changed from V3 to V4 is the following statement: In V3: DECLARE HELLO DATA ('Hello world.'); in V4: DECLARE HELLO (*) BYTE DATA ('Hello world.'); There are other subtle changes I have found. I discovered these as I was using older PLM source code for CPM as a programming example, and certain constructs were being rejected by the V4 compiler. I could also just be screwing something up. I always reserve the right to do that... > > I have the "ISIS-II PL/M-80 Compiler Operator's Manual", no. 9800300-04, > dated 3/82. It is the manual that was issued specifically for V4.0 of > the compiler. There are several "$" commands listed. All those "$" > commands are also listed in the V3.0/V3.1 version of that manual > (9800300C). I have this for V3, I figured out the V4 compiler commands by going through the PLM80 executable. V3 used the $P=1 construct, V4 used the $CODE/$NOCODE constructs which were a lot clearer. The $P=1 model does not work with the V4 compiler I have, the one with the overlays. > > > The Programming Manual did not change from V3.0 to V4.0. The language > was really the same. I programmed a lot in those days and I never had > to change anything moving from V3 to V4. It would be interesting to look up the DATA syntax above in V3 and V4 and see what is confusing me. > > > I think the main changes from 3 to 4 had to do with newer operating > system environments. Newer versions of ISIS-II could have more than the > four or six or seven disk drives by allowing networked drive assignments > up through :F9:. File names could be longer, as well. I think those > were some of the differences from V3.x to V4.0. But the language syntax > was the same. > > > > >>> Specifically, I am in need of: > >>> > >>> 98-00268B plm 80 programming manual, V4 > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> Jeff Erwin > >>> > >>> By the way, I am running the ISIS-II emulator in a DOS box under > windows, > >>> itself an emulator. Windows is running under Parallels on my Mac Pro > >>> > > which > > > >>> is running OSx. Is it possible to get further from reality here?? > >>> > >>> > > > Can I offer to pay you for a copy of the two manuals you refer to above? Jeff Erwin > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 27 > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:50:44 -0500 > From: wgungfu at uwm.edu > Subject: RE: article ref to 50th birthday of video games > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech at classiccmp.org> > Message-ID: <1224111044.48f673c4a3527 at panthermail.uwm.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Except both are computer games, not video games, despite the PR move by > some > companies to push them as otherwise. This was already all hashed out in > the > courts. > > Marty > > Quoting Paul_Koning at Dell.com: > > > Neat. That predates the PDP-1 "spacewar" game, which I had thought of as > the > > oldest. And it may still be the oldest video game on a digital computer. > > > > paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto: > cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On > > Behalf Of Brent Hilpert > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:17 PM > > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > > Subject: article ref to 50th birthday of video games > > > > Old news for many here perhaps, but here's a writeup about physicist > William > > Higinbotham's creation of "Tennis-for-two" at Brookhaven Labs in 1958: > > > > http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/10/15/tech-games.html > > > > Mentions how the initial inspiration came from reading the manual for an > > analog > > computer and how it could be used for ballistic trajectory calculations. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 28 > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:51:08 -0400 (EDT) > From: Alexandre Lag?e-Jacques <alexandre.laguejacques at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Symbolics Genera (was "NEC SX-4B on Ebay") > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0810151845510.2697 at localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII > > >>> It's a UNIX box, man. The most (programmer-)friendly OS in > >>> existence. At least for even moderately technical people. > >> There are UNIX-compatible people and non-UNIX-compatible people (cf > >> Unix Hater's Handbook). > > > >Even aside from that, I'm not convinced. I think Symbolics Genera is > >arguably more programmer-friendly, though that could just be because I > >find Lisp a much nicer language than C. (There may be even better > >OSes; that's just what I have personal experience with.) > > This message pertains to der Mouse's comment... Out of idle curiosity I > looked up Symbolics Genera and the story of the Lisp machines... > Fascinating! Any idea of how to get one's hands on such a machine? eBay is > not forthcoming although they have been mentioned in some old messages on > cctalk. > > - Alex > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 29 > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:02:08 +0200 > From: "Stephane Tsacas" <stephane.tsacas at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Symbolics Genera (was "NEC SX-4B on Ebay") > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Message-ID: > <ebdb53760810151602u51d44595o5939528172f405b7 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2008/10/16 Alexandre Lag?e-Jacques <alexandre.laguejacques at gmail.com> > > > It's a UNIX box, man. The most (programmer-)friendly OS in > >>>> existence. At least for even moderately technical people. > >>>> > >>> There are UNIX-compatible people and non-UNIX-compatible people (cf > >>> Unix Hater's Handbook). > >>> > >> > >> Even aside from that, I'm not convinced. I think Symbolics Genera is > >> arguably more programmer-friendly, though that could just be because I > >> find Lisp a much nicer language than C. (There may be even better > >> OSes; that's just what I have personal experience with.) > >> > > > > This message pertains to der Mouse's comment... Out of idle curiosity I > > looked up Symbolics Genera and the story of the Lisp machines... > > Fascinating! Any idea of how to get one's hands on such a machine? > > > Check : > http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/index.html > Nice CADR emulator, works. > > St?phane > (Looking for a Nova switch key). > > > End of cctech Digest, Vol 62, Issue 34 > ************************************** >

16 years, 2 months

Printers, printer parts (dye sub, laser, and inkjet), maintenance manuals

by rescue＠hawkmountain.net

I have: Tektronix Phaser 350 Model 2350 Options FX has PhaserShare Ethernet Card installed got it to spit out one page... was messy... might just need new ink and a good cleaning. I will part this out ... or free for local pickup (Sharon, MA or Cambridge, MA) Xerox DocuPrint P12 laser printer had paper feed issue... feeds ok with printer at 45 degree angle but not resting flat on desk. Did not investigate why... should be a simple fix (maybe even just clean paper feed roller?) free for local pickup (Sharon, MA or Cambridge, MA) HP Deskjet 660Cse inkjet printer will need new ink cartridge(s) free for local pickup (Sharon, MA or Cambridge MA) or $5 + actual ship Laserjet 98A toner cartridge, 2 (1 new in box, 1 new not in box) (for LJ4s and LJ5s) (would trade for LJ6 carts) Brother TN-5000PF toner for IntelliFAX FAX2750/3550/3650/3750 MFC-4450/4550/4550PLUS/4660 6550MC/6680MC/7550MC/7650MC/7750MC Digital LN03 toner kits Digital LN03 maintenance kits Digital LN03 Programmer Reference Manual Apple Service Technical Procedures for Laser Printers this covers the original Apple LaserWriter p/n 072-0163 TI Microlaser Personal Laser Printer Maintenance Manual p/n 2559877-0001 Canon SX engine laser printer parts (LaserWriter II/IINT/IINTX/IIF/IIG, Laserjet II, III, QMS PS810/PS815) including fans, power supplies, gears, logic boards (LaserWriter IINT, QMS PS810), etc. Anything not labelled free is make an offer. Some of this stuff will hit the dumpster by mid next week if not sooner. -- Curt

16 years, 2 months

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test-drb October 2008