>
>Subject: Re: MicroVax II/VMS - why 70mb isn't enough.
> From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com>
> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:45:16 -0700
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>
>At 6:08 AM -0700 8/19/07, Mr Ian Primus wrote:
>>There has
>>to be a way to get an OS onto a Vax in 70 megabytes.
>
>You don't mention *what* version of VMS. If you go with VAX/VMS
>V5.5-2 (Hobbyist V1 CD-ROM) it is possible to fit it onto a 70MB
>disk, though you'll have to leave some stuff out as I recall. It is
>a pretty tight fit. If you could get ahold of MicroVMS V4.x it would
>definitely fit (I have no idea where to find a copy).
>
> Zane
VM5.5 will fit if you leave out DECwindows and some of the language support.
It will fit better is you can put in another (even if only 20MB) for files
as then you can move the page and swap files to there and buy some space.
Allison
I've spent the weekend getting my new acquisition, an Alpha Micro Eagle 300
with AMOS 2.3a and AlphaTCP on an AM-65 console, up and running. After a few
false starts, I now have the Ethernet configured, TELNED set up for remote
login, FTPD, and HTTPD.
Eventually I'll probably put it out there as a "fan server" running on real
hardware, put up some FAQs, etc.
However, I can't for the life of me find any VT100 or VT100-compatible TDVs
in DVR:, so I've been logging in as a dummy terminal with TELTYP. This is
pretty crufty. Anyone running an AM system with a VT100-compatible TDV I could
"borrow"? VERIFY TCP checks out, so I don't think I'm missing any files.
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Anyone have the DEC InfoServer software? I need it and I'm in a big
hurry and need it immediately. I can't seem to find my CD.
Could someone help me? Thanks.
Peace... Sridhar
Rather than replace the anvil in my 20-year-old hand nibbler (which
I'm not sure that I can do anyway), I've decided to spring for a new
one.
Both Adel and Klein offer hand sheet-metal nibblers for about the
same price. Which one is better?
Cheers,
Chuck
Yes I know. The shipping / voltage issue is a big problem for me.
However as a stopgap I have found a non-DEC monitor marked R G(Sync) B.
(If that's not sync on green I don't know what is)
So its cable time this weekend and see if we can't get some colour out
of the Rainbow.
(Cue Judy Garland .. Somewhere etc.....)
Rod
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul Anderson
Sent: 17 August 2007 02:59
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: DEC Rainbow 100+ Plus
Both the VR201 and the VR241 are available in the states, but shipping
overseas could be expensive.
Paul
On 8/15/07, Rod Smallwood <RodSmallwood at mail.ediconsulting.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi
> Yes I knew about the comp video. Fortunatly a kind list member has a
> VT201 I can have.
> Now the hunt is on for a VT241. That's the companion DEC 13" RGB
> colour monitor.
>
> Regards
>
> Rod
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
> Sent: 13 August 2007 14:27
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: DEC Rainbow 100+ Plus
>
> On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 08:24 -0400, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>
> > You have another option... the video input to a VR201 is NTSC
> > "composite video", also called RS-170. I see you are in the UK, so
> > an
>
> > NTSC monitor might not be as easy to find as a VR201, but will work
> > if
>
> > you have one handy.
>
> Just about any CCTV monitor, basically.
>
> Gordon
>
>
>
>
>
It is hard for me to admit this, but I have a PDP-11/23 that I will
never get around to doing anything with. I need to find a new home for
it.
It's complete, was running, needs RL02 disk packs. Comes with two
VT100's and an LA36 Decwriter II. It is configured exactly as in this
picture (I don't think it's a plus though).
http://hampage.hu/pdp-11/kepek/1123PLUS.JPG
I have cash into this project. I'm wondering if there is any value to
this system. Have PDP's reached "collectable" status yet?
James -
Hi, I picked up a job lot and about half of this is DEC. I'm not a DEC
collector (shock!!) but I know many of you are.
I'm in Southampton, UK. I'm happy to post this stuff (UK only, sorry!)
if you cover costs, but would of course prefer collection. I don't have
any working DEC kit so this is all untested. If you get something that
works and you feel is worth money then make a donation to Cray-Cyber
(www.cray-cyber.org) or your favourite charity :-)
Hardware:
Approx 90 * TK50 "CompacTape" cartridges. These are all in cases, many
have VMS 5.5 or system backups. Some look new. There's also about 10 of
"CompacTape II" cartridges. I'd like to cover my costs and ask ?50 for
the whole lot (DHL delivery would be about ?13). I may split if there's
no interest in the lot.
TZ30 drive. Powers up but flat cable on side has been broken so this is
spares/repair
LK401 keyboard
3 mice.
2 * 3W3 -> BNC cables
keyb/mouse interface "box" (plugs into back of 3000)
VSXXX-AA B03. Nice puck style mouse missing cable - suspect spares/repair
PCPI H-DC external power supply
H7819-AA internal PSU.
DEHUB-AX BU3 8 slot wall mounting "back plane" with PSU (doesn't power
up) and DECrepeater 90T-16
Multia workstation/terminal. Powers up and reports 166MHz CPU & 64MB.
Has floppy drive.
3000 600S workstation. Powers up but just get flashing cursor in bottom
left on connected monitor. The 8 LED's on the back panel all light,
except 1 & 5. Has CD, 2 hard disks, 16 memory sticks & PMAGB-B GFX card.
8 * memory sticks. 80 pin. 514100-10 chips on both sides
PMAZ-A SCSI card
PV2 "lights and switches" card
Motherboard. Can't see a part number! has 8 * 80 pin memory slots
(unpopulated), dated 1992. Possible part numbers are 5421177 &
50-21176-01. Has 50-20429-01 card mounted.
CPU card B3004-DA 466MHz 21164 4MB cache
GS-2 GFX board set? (24 plane frame buffer & another card with i860 and
a DEC VLSI - 5420450 or 07292-5562)
About 10 assorted cables - mix of RS232/keyboard/AUI?
PBXGA PCI GFX card
Twin full length PCI GFX card with GL chips.
KZPSAPS full length PCI SCSI
PBXGB full length PCI GFX
3 * dual wide SCSI using 53C710 on HSD10 PCI adapter
3.5" SCSI hard disks. I'vepowered these up and all make the "right"
noises. (2 * RZ23, 2 * RZ25, 4 * RZ26, 1 * RZ28 & 1 * RZ29)
Software:
Approx 250 3.5" floppies. These are mostly Digital/Compaq drivers for
various machines dated from 1993 onwards.
Various 5.25" floppies. Some originals, some copies. These are mostly in
plastic cases or wallets and look tidy. Some of the sets are:
1. 5 cases (about 15 per case) unlabeled - assume blank
2. 27 * MICRO-11 MAINT & FORMTR (originals)
3. microvax II DIAG. 6 disks. copies
4. microvax II MACROVERIFY (ME3257)
5. microvax II MAINT #3 & #4
6. BL19 INISYS + SWCOPY
7. BL21 "Branch software" 13 disks
8. MICRO-11 DIAGS 1-8 & A & B
9. MICRO-11 Formatter
10. vaxMate MS-DOS 3.10 (original)
11. Assorted other disks
Best to contact me off list if you are interested in any of this. Thanks
for taking the time to look!
James
http://www.machineroom.info
Seth Morabito wrote:
I can't think of Prime Computers without thinking of this ad, now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Zf8oKuPYo
Oh Dr. Who, why did you sell out? And for a Prime, no less! ;)
-Seth
--------------------
Beautiful! Thanks for posting that. It's a great juxtaposition.
Billy
Thanks Tony ... That's saved me a lot of searching.
I managed to find a sync on green colour monitor.
Its not DEC but 'twill do until a VR241 turns up.
A kind list member has found a real VR201 for me.
Rod
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tony Duell
Sent: 17 August 2007 23:21
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: DEC rainbow 100 color cable
For reference, here is a file I porduced on the 'universal' Rainbow
video cable. It should indicate how to link up 2 monitors, etc. This is
not a DEC product, it's something I hacked together for my 'Bow.
-tony
--------------------------
A universal DEC Rainbow video cable
-----------------------------------
This cable allows almost all possible monitor combinations to be used
with the Rainbow (see below).
Connections :
-------------
Rainbow end (DA15-S)
1 >----------+---------+-- Blue Gnd
9 >-------O---------O-- Blue
2 >----------+---------+-- Green Gnd
10 >-------O---------O-- Green
3 >----------+---------+-- Red Gnd
11 >-------O---------O-- Red
4 >----------+---------+-- Mono Gnd
12 >-------O---------O-- Mono
5 >----+
13 >-+ +------------ Power Gnd
6 >----------+------------ Key Gnd
14 >-------------------- From Key
7 >----------------------- Power 12V
15 >-------------------- To Key
8 >----------------------- Key 12V
Box-mounted connectors :
VR201 (DA15-P)
1 o
9 o
2 o
10 o
3 o
11 o
4 o-----------+--------+--- Mono Gnd
12 o--------O--------O--- Mono
5 o-------+---------------- Power Gnd
13 o |
6 o-------+---------------- Key Gnd
14 o--------------------- From Key
7 o------------------------ Power 12V
15 o--------------------- To Key
8 o------------------------ Key 12V
Monitor BNCs :
Red
( o )--------- Red Gnd
|
+----------- Red
Green
( o )--------- Green Gnd
|
+----------- Green
Blue
( o )--------- Blue Gnd
|
+----------- Blue
Mono
( o )--------- Mono Gnd
|
+----------- Mono
LK201 keyboard (RJ11-- front face view)
-------
| |
----- -----
| |
| |
| |
-- ^ ^ ^ ^--
| | | |
From Key -----+ | | +----- To Key
Key 12V----------+ +-------- Key Gnd
Components :
------------
DA15S socket + hood (to fit Rainbow video connector)
DA15P plug + jackposts (for VR201 connection)
4 off 75 Ohm BNC sockets (for monitor connections). You could use other
connectors, like RCA phono, but BNC are standard.
RJ11 socket, chassis mounting (for LK201 keyboard). Chassis mounting
sockets of this type are very hard to find. I ended up making a bracket
to clamp a PCB-mounting one to the panel
Metal box of a suitable size to hold the above connectors (apart from
the
DA15S).
1m cable. At least 4 75 Ohm screened cores and 6 single wires. I used a
'unversal SCART cable' which has 6 75 ohm screened cores (I simply
ignored 2 of them), a 4 way screened cable (I used this for the 4
keyboard connections) and 4 other wires (2 in parallel for each of Power
12V and Power Gnd).
Possible monitor combinations :
-------------------------------
1) VR201 only
This is pretty useless, but you can connect a VR201 mono monitor using
the DEC lead to the DA15P on the box. Connect the LK201 keyboard to
either the VR201 or the RJ11 on the box.
2) Standard composite mono monitor
Connect monitor input to 'mono' BNC on the box. Connect LK201 to the
RJ11
on the box. This works just like a VR201, but you can use any monitor
3) VR201 and separate mono graphics monitor
Connect VR201 to DA15P. Connect LK201to either RJ11 on the box or to
VR201. Connect second (composite) monitor to the 'green' BNC. You can
use
the dual monitor driver for GSX and have text on the VR201 and graphics
on
the second monitor
4) Two composite mono monitors
Connect one to 'mono' BNC, other to 'green' BNC. Connect LK201 to RJ11
on
box. Using the dual monitor driver, you get text on the first monitor
and
graphics on the second monitor
5) RGB (sync-on-green) colour monitor (e.g. VR241)
Connect monitor inputs to BNCs as follows :
Red - Red
Green - Mono
Blue - Blue.
Connect LK201 to RJ11 on box. This gives the standard DEC color monitor
connections giving green text and colour graphics using the colour
monitor driver
6) RGB monitor and VR201
Connect VR201 to DA15P on box. Connect LK201 to RJ11 on box. Connect
color monitor as follows
Red - Red
Green - Green
Blue - Blue
This gives separate text and colour graphics displays when used with the
dual monitor driver
7) RGB monitor and composite mono monitor
Connect mono monitor input to 'mono' BNC. Connect LK201 to RJ11. Connect
colour monitor as follows
Red - Red
Green - Green
Blue - Blue
This gives separate text and colour graphics displays when used with the
dual monitor driver
