Jim Battle wrote:
> Lee Davison wrote:
>>> Unless a genius comes along and recognizes this, I'm going to wipe
>>> the drive, install TurboDOS, and not look back.
>>
>> Is there any place potential geniuses can get all this image data?
>>
>> Lee.
>
> Lee,
>
> The 30 MB drive is partitioned into two logical drives under turbodos. I
> gave up about 1/4 the way through the B partition. A looks
> indistinguishable from this, other than being 4x larger since it is the
> full partition.
>
Dang, I can't believe I fell for that again. Sorry jay for sending a
large attachment. Lee, I'll try again, this time to you.
Has anyone started to rebuild the boot disk/software archives similar to what
Don Maslin was doing? I see bits and pieces spread around the web but nothing
all inclusive such as what Don had. It would be great to see it all in one place
and mirrored in the same way as bitsavers.
I did find a list of the disks that Don had online (I think at Gaby). To the
best of my knowledge, that was the only online compilation of what was contained
in his collection.
> From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com>
> I can remember seeing at least one project for a crystal-controlled
> timing source using tubes (I think it used push-pull 6F6's in the
> output stage) to run an ordinary synchronous-motor wall clock. This
> would probably be during the 1940s or 50s.
>
> Does anyone remember that the oldest of said wall clocks required the
> owner to start the motor manually by spinning a little knurled shaft
> located on the back?
I seem to recall a rumor where the power companies were offering to replace at
no charge those clocks that needed to be mamually started (before my time.) The
reason had something to do with using power that didn't register on the power
meter. Anyone here know if this is fact or fiction?
> Unless a genius comes along and recognizes this, I'm going to wipe
> the drive, install TurboDOS, and not look back.
Is there any place potential geniuses can get all this image data?
Lee.
Hey, all:
I'm looking for two pair of the sort-of-Molex-like connectors DEC used for
connecting Teletypes to minis in the late '60s/early '70s. A DEC drawing
designates them as "Mate-n-Lock" connectors, T04915; my web search for
them turned up a lot of connectors, but not this type. Here's a photo of
a set, if it helps:
http://flyingmoose.org/tty_conn.jpg
Are these still manufactured? Does anyone have two sets in spares, or
otherwise know where I can find a couple?
Thanks in advance for any help!
-O.-
--- Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
**>> snip <<**
> A good mechanical watch will just keep going and
> going with an
> occasional clean and lube.
>
> I read somewhere that watches themselves are on th
e
> decline.
> Apparently many folks simply use their mobile phon
e
> as a time source.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Since I got my 1st mobile around 2001 I haven't
used watches at all.
Before 2001 I never really used watches that
much anyway. I never needed them at school
and didn't go out much during my teen years.
Infact, apart from one my grandparents had
(with day of the month on it), I never used
watches until I left secondary school (summer
1996) and had to go out looking for work etc.
(I didn't want to do further education - sixth
form, college and Uni etc.)
>
> Didn't Mozart grumble about being paid with pocket
> watches instead of
> money?
>
> Cheers,
> Chuck
>
But surely the watches would have been worth
more than money, to the right person of course?
Regards,
Andrew D. Burton
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Hi all,
I'm getting an early start on signing up VCF East exhibitors / vendors /
speakers. If you're interested and not already on our local (MARCH) list,
then please contact me off-list.
- Evan
-----------------------------
Prior update: In addition to Chuck Peddle, our panel (in the morning of June
9) will feature Bil Herd, Bob Russell, and Dave Haynie .... Along with
several of the early models (and even some ultra-rare prototypes) on display
.... In case the panelists have a sudden urge to demo anything. ALSO: there
WILL be a second day! The official dates are now June 9-10.
Location: InfoAge Science Center (www.infoage.org), Wall, N.J. ....
Sponsored once again by MARCH (www.midatlanticretro.org).
Previously on this channel......
>>>>>
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, David Griffith wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Golan Klinger wrote:
>
> > David Griffith wrote:
> >
> > > I have a fondness for the Wyse 85 and I was wondering if anyone
here has
> > > one in decent condition to get rid of.
> >
> > I share your fondness for that particular terminal. I'm not sure
what
> > it is about the Wyse 85 but I just love them. My last one died a few
> > years ago and my Wyse 60 just isn't up to snuff. Considering how
many
> > were made/sold, it's odd that they're so hard to find.
>
> I find the Wyse 50 on Ebay all the time, frequently newly refurbished.
> Do you still have the dead 85? Since the 50 is externally identical
to
> the 85, do you think it would be possible to turn a 50 into an 85 with
> some rom swapping?
Whoops. They're not identical. I've unearthed a Wyse 99gt with bad
screenburn and nasty case discoloration. Seems close enough for my
purposes.
<<<<<
Yes, Wyse made some terminals that WERE the same, just different PROMS.
The Wyse-75
and Wyse-50 were the SAME hardware. You can convert a Wyse 50 (weird
escape sequences)
to a Wyse-75 (nice VT-100 type escape sequences) with a bit of work.
I've done it
very successfully (it was a few years ago, in a previous life).
Steps:
1) Have a Wyse 75 nearby that can be "borrowed". You will return it in
its original
condition.
2) Have the Wyse 50 (soon to be a Wyse 75) around as well.
3) Get a couple of EPROMS that are the same as the ones inside the Wyse
50/75. At the
moment I don't remember, but a pair of 2764's sounds familiar.
4) Open up the Wy-75's logic board and get access to the nice socketed
prom chips.
5) Mark the chips and their sockets to make sure you don't fudge them
in the wrong
place.
6) Make copies of these chips in your EPROMS. Be aware that if you
don't have high
enough speed chips, the unit you are "modding" might NOT work in 132
column mode.
7) Place these chips in the Wy-50's board where they came from the
WY-75.
8) (Here it gets a bit tricky!) Remove the EEPROM (it is a 16 pin chip
and socketed)
from the Wy-75 and put it in the Wy-50's socket. Save the Wy-50's
EEPROM for a
step further down.
9) Power up the Wy-50 (now a Wy-75) and get into the setup menu. Note
that the keytops
are in a few different places, but since you have a Wy-75, just make
legends for
that copy the keycaps.
10) With power ON (careful now) gently remove the EEPROM chip inserted
in step 8.
11) With the power STILL on insert (careful now) the EEPROM chip from
the original WY-50
back into the socket.
12) Since you are in the setup menu, do a "save". This saves the Wy-75
stuff into the
EEPROM and makes sure that bits are set to allow the Wy-75 to work.
If you DON'T
do this, the terminal WON'T power up in a useful state AT ALL!
13) Put the original Wy-75 parts back into the "donor" wy-75 and
re-assemble it. They
won't notice ANY difference as you haven't changed anything!
14) Re-assemble the former Wy-50 (now a nice functional Wy-75) and add
some labels to
the keyboard for the keys that are different from the Wy-75 (there
are a few).
15) Be happy. You just upgraded your Wy-50 to a Wy-75. Enjoy the nice
VT-100 style
escape codes. Note that some of the "F keys" (F1-F6 as I remember)
have specific
functions and are NOT programmable.
So, there you go. Yes it is the same hardware. The Wyse 75 firmware
looks in the
EEPROM to see that you started out that way, and wedges if not. This is
the reason for
the dance shown above. I tried it without the EEPROM dance and it DID
NOT work. Then
I figured it out. I didn't have an EEPROM (2401??) programmer, so I
couldn't clone that
part, but since the above works (be very very careful), it shouldn't be
a problem.
As the saying goes: "West and Welaxation at Wast ha ha ha ha..."
(insert Elmer Fudd
voice here).
--
Tom Watson Generic Signature
t_wtom at qualcomm.com (I'm at work now)
... who might be able to pick up and hang on to some NeXT stuff for five weeks
or so? We've got an offer of some stuff but it has to be out of the owner's
house by next Monday, and I'm not back in the UK until the end of March.
I'm hoping Witchy can collect [1] as he thinks he might be off to London later
this week sometime, but as this is all a little rushed I thought it might be
wise to line up a backup if possible :-)
[1] Witchy, did you get my last email with contact details for the guy? My
message prior to that one bounced saying that the destination computer wasn't
found (which is the second time in the last couple of weeks that's happened)
so I guess you're having mail server troubles...
cheers
Jules
--- der Mouse <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote:
> >> Apparently many folks simply use their mobile
> phone as a time
> >> source.
> > Since I got my 1st mobile around 2001 I haven't
> used watches at all.
>
> Heh.
>
> My watch died recently, and since then I have been
> using my phone as my
> mobile time source. I want the watch back. (Too
> bad it's broken; I
> need to find another.)
>
> Why?
>
> The phone is significantly harder to get to (have
to
> extract it from a
> pocket, versus just turning my wrist), and the pho
ne
> is significantly
> harder to read under most circumstances.
>
My first mobile yes, but not my current one
which has a much better LCD display and
backlighting.
Oh yes, speaking of backlighting.... it can also
double as a torch when in the dark :)
It drains the battery faster sure, but it usually
only needs charging once every 2 days
(battery should last for 1000 charges or so).
> There's also an element of "use the right tool for
> the job", but that's
> much weaker.
>
Indeed.
If I needed a stopwatch then I would need
a digital watch, or a erm... stopwatch!
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Regards,
Andrew D. Burton
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