> We've got a Tektronix 4051 with the optional Data Comms Interface and tons
> of tape cartridges. As the belts in the Scotch/3M DC300 tapes are worn out
> or torn I need to copy the contents 1:1 to other media. But how?
I have a box of tapes from Jim Willing that I need to deal with as well. There
was a GPIB version of the drive used in the 405x that I have. The service manual
goes into more detail than the service manual for the main unit. I also have a
couple of the bare drives and had intended to hook them up to the same sort of
interface that I've been using to deal with other cassette media.
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:22:41 +0100
From: Jos Dreesen / Marian Capel <jos.mar at bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Commodore PET
<snip>
>To think I left a chicklet keyboard pet in a dumpster, just a few years
>ago. "Too much stuff, it's just a PET, I can always get another.."
>Jos
------------
I probably put it there ;-)
Just one of many things I dumpstered before I saw the light; the North
Star and CDC terminal I tossed because I only wanted the desks, the
Cromemco Z-2 because I only wanted the PS, the calcs I wanted the
Nixies and core out of, the Selectric and Diablo printers, Burroughs L,
F and E stuff because I figured no one would ever 'collect' one, etc. etc.
Regrets, I've had a few...
Fortunately I kept my original PET 'cause I was (and still am) using it
occasionally.
m
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:24:38 +1300
From: Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at usap.gov>
<snip>
If someone tried to hack DRAMs in place on a static board, I'll bet that's
a mess. I have a 2001-16N board with factory perforations on the high 16K
RAM pads that I'd like to eventually reburbish to a full 32K.
If you really are interested in finding someone who is willing/able to
make that one live once again, I am entirely willing to give it a go. I
don't have a shell here, but I already have a 3032 board on the way here
>from Sweden, so I was planning on trying to build a keyboard adapter of
some kind and an XOR-based composite-out adapter with a closed-circuit
TV monitor to get it all working. Doing the same for an old PET wouldn't
be that much of a stretch (I was planning on using a C2N232 adapter for
mass storage, eliminating the need to send down a real floppy drive).
-ethan
--------Reply:
I was going to do the same thing, sort of a PET in an AppleII-type case, but
it'll never happen so you're welcome to it. I've also got a keyboard for it (the
later version) and video's a no-brainer.
I also have a case (no monitor) but I think I'll keep that in case I _do_ decide
to do this one day with another less needy mobo.
Mind you, the plug-in chips are missing, so by the time you've hacked in
a 32K RAM chip and EPROM there wouldn't be much left of the original
PET...
We'll talk off-list.
m
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:36:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com>
Subject: Re: Commodore PET
>>> The last PET 2001 with the chiclet keyboard I bought cost me $35.
>>> Clearly, there are bargains to be had. $150 is a fair price though.
>
>> Shhhh!
>> I wanna find another Cameron that'll give me $900!
>In all seriousness, I think it was worth it and I'm happy to have it.
>Wouldn't drop that kind of coin on just anything.
More power to ya, I say. The value of this kind of thing is purely subjective,
depending solely on what it (and $900) are worth to *you*, and I too feel that
there's something very special about that model and the community that
grew up around it (especially here in Toronto, Commodore's birthplace
and home of Jim Butterfield, TPUG, The Transactor, Batteries Included etc),
as opposed to AppleIIs & R-S M1s. Remarkable that TPUG (Toronto PET
Users' Group) is still around, and even with some of the original members
(although scaled down somewhat from its glory days).
Of course it was my 'first' and I have many warm memories and pictures of
me and family playing with it, not to mention all the doodads & mods I made
for it, so I'm somewhat biased.
Then again, from the point of view of the 'collectors' on this list, it should
be worth $0...
m
One line of systems I see very little about on the web or in vintage computing
circles are the Alpha Microsystems units (not! DEC! Alpha!~). Now that I have
my own Alpha Micro Eagle 300, I've compiled together most of my notes on
various models, a primer to AMOS, some software and a link library and put
the E300 into the server rack so that a real AMOS/AlphaTCP system can serve
it itself.
Hopefully this will be useful to other people who have been curious about
Alpha Micro boxes.
http://ampm.floodgap.com/
--
------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com
-- I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismograph. -- Ken Kesey -------------
The following items are outside of my sphere of interest, but I bet some on
this list would be interested, so here goes...
I have available for trade a complete set of the first few years of the HP
Key Notes magazine:
HP Key Notes 1977 Vol 1; numbers 1,2 (featuring the HP-01), and 3
HP Key Notes 1978 Vol 2; numbers 1,2,3,4
HP Key Notes 1979 Vol 3; numbers 1,2,3
Plus
HP Key Notes 1981 Vol 5; numbers 1, 3
and
"The Hewlett-Packard Personal Calculator Digest" magazine Volume Three
1977. Cover HP-19C
and
HP 67/97 User's Library Catalog of contributed programs (not the programs
themselves)
with program submittal worksheets
If interested, contact me via billdeg at aol dot com or my web site,
vintagecomputer.net. I would consider almost any reasonable trade
> My PET 2001-32N (badged as a 3032 in Europe) was $1195 with a C2N and no
> disk...
>
> I got a lot of miles out of that PET. I still have it and it still
> fires up (but I think I have an IEEE problem that may turn out to be
> cruddy 40-pin sockets on the VLSI I/O chips).
>
Way back when, the company bought a 2032 for stock control and invoicing,
used for 5 years or so.
After about a year it continually needed opening up and the chips reseating,
got so frustrated with this that we replaced ALL the Ic sockets with "turned
pin" types and never had anymore problems with that machine ever again.
Mike
> From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com>
> Subject: Re: Televideo Terminals TS-800A (UK)
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Message-ID: <47323EAB.24181.81E5663 at cclist.sydex.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On 7 Nov 2007 at 21:25, Roger Ivie wrote:
>
> > I've not encountered a TS-800, but I was under the impression
> that they were
> > diskless workstations for use with something like a TS-806 MMMOST
> > server.
>
> According to the Russian televideo.ru site, the TS-800 is a sump
> pump:
>
> http://www.televideo.ru/product.asp?idDepartament=216&idProduct=11357&
> cas=9
>
> My recollection of the TS-800A was a diskless Z80 workstation,
> interfaced via RS-422 (IIRC).
>
> Cheers, :)
> Chuck
Hehe - nice pump lol. I have asked for confirmation of the exact model
number so we can be sure. Apologies for any confusion. Herewith a link to an
image which may help to identify same.
http://www.attfield.co.uk/gallery/tv.jpg
Jim