Hi Bill,
I'd like to get $600 plus shipping. That's what the drives alone are
worth. Actually I'd LIKE to get more than that but I guess that's not going
to happen. It's marked LVD/SE and that's what the specs for the drives say
also.
Joe
At 03:07 PM 5/10/06 -0400, you wrote:
>You interested in selling the whole unit?
>If so -- for how much.
>I assume it's SCSI LVD interface... is it marked SCSI Differential?
>
>Bill
>
>On Sun, 07 May 2006 11:24:35, Joe R. <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well I didn't get any replies about this device but what I've been able
>> to figure out it looks like a hell of a drive system! But it doesn't look
>> anything that I need so I've put it on E-bay. If anyone is interested in a
>> FAST drive subsystem, check it out.
>> <http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZrigdonjQQhtZ-1>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>
this is maby a misteak.I'look for a driver thank you for mail
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On May 12 2006, 3:43, Jules Richardson wrote:
> Gerhard Lenerz wrote:
> > Thursday, May 11, 2006, 8:28:43 PM, you wrote:
> >
> >> A large card ("Newport Graphics"?) but appears that 4 RAMs (?)
> >> were not populated at initial manufacture (which suggests it
> >> is a lower-end card?)
> >
> > Newport is XL graphics. If there is free space where memory would
fit
> > then it is 8bit otherwise 24 bit. You could also try and google up
the
> > part number (the 030-xxxx-yyy number).
>
> I seem to remember that it is possible to turn an 8-bit board into a
24-bit
> one if you fancy some surface-mount soldering and have a couple of
surplus
> 8-bit boards for the chips...
>
> (Pete Turnbull will know more; I believe he's got a board that he put
together
> in such a way)
Yes, I have a couple. When I got my own card back from an upgrade, I
set about working out what was changed, so one of the techs at work
could do a few more -- we had a lot of spare Indys at the time. You
can see the results on my friend James Carter's webpage:
http://www.jfc.org.uk/documents/indy_gfx.html
The pictures, by the way, are from James' IndyCam :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I have some bits from a NEC SilentWriter 95 laser printer if there is any interest
a fax adapter board to allow it to receive faxes
1x memory SIMM
PostScript ROM board
Not sure if there is any interest, but they're here and free.
Renton (Seattle) area.
I am cleaning out a box of old gear here and ran across an interesting
doo-dad... a Vaisala "MPT 11" - what seems to be a "manual papertape
reader" - smallish PCB with a U-shaped plastic tape guide for what I
think is reading in the calibration papertapes for Vaisala sondes
(when launching a balloon, certain models of sonde have a papertape in
each one that gets fed into the telemetry box prior to launching). I
googled for a few references, but only turned up part numbers, no
technical docs. Not really surprising for embedded stuff from 1999.
There are other things in the crate - what look to be
single-Euroconnector-attached
boards with embedded GPS receivers, etc. (also from 1999). One CPU
board looks to
have an 8031 at 7.mumble MHz, and there's a DC-to-DC converter or two
on the same
sized boards. Probably from a rack-mounted telemetry box they used to
have around
here.
I also have small box of the GPS units from the sondes themselves -
helical copper wire antenna sticking out of an RF shielded board.
There's a 3 or 4 wire interface, two leads of which go to an 8-pin SMT
78L05, so power should be easy to trace, the remaining lead or two is
going to be some format of serial data, probably TTL, the only
question is what format the data are in.
If anyone has or knows of a Vaisala technical docs repository, I'd
love to hear about it.
Thanks,
-ethan
>> A large card ("Newport Graphics"?) but appears that 4 RAMs (?)
>>were not populated at initial manufacture (which suggests it
>>is a lower-end card?)
>Yeah. XL-8: 8-bit, non-accelerated video.
Not really "non-accelerated", just without geometry or a Z-buffer. XL video is (of its generation) the fastest at 2-D tasks, noticeably faster than XZ.
Not sure against Extreme (you still have the pipeline overhead, but 2 REs on GU1).
In addition to the extra VRAM, there are several ASICs that are unstuffed on XL8- possibly colormaps, I can't remember right now.
The chip under the heatsink is a REX-3 raster engine. It takes care of everything that "accelerated graphics cards" for the PC
did and more. The CPU takes care of geometry and Z-buffer, coordinates are sent to the card for raster operations.
On the back: the RCA is composite-in, the mini-DIN is S-VHS (Y/C) in. The "bidirectional audio" is digital I/O
Jules Richardson wrote
>Has anyone ever tried a wide SCSI controller in the same physical machine as
>the framebuffer? I don't think it'll work without case mods to make it all
>physically fit, but I have no idea if it works from a software point of view...
>
>I'm thinking that we've got a dead Challenge-S machine with a wide SCSI board
>in it (where the framebuffer in a normal Indy would be)- I don't think there
>are pass-through bus connectors on the SCSI board, but I *think* there are on
>a framebuffer board, so the framebuffer could go below and the SCSI board
>above it...
I believe there are wide SCSI GIO32 cards out there. I've never worked with a Challenge, but in the Indy the mainboard -> graphics is a modified-connector GIO-64, the expansion bus on top of the
framebuffer is GIO32-bis. I have no idea how they break up the channels (Indy can have 2xGIO32 + GIO64 graphics, whereas Indigo2 is limited to 2xGIO64 whatevers). I2 would likely work out of
the box, since there are the 2x Fast-SCSI channels available. Of course, what they wanted you to do is buy an Onyx . . . (I suspect that this is why the genlock disappeared when they moved from
Express to IMPACT graphics in the Indigo2)
The ARCS machines (IP19, IP22 and above) are very forgiving as far as type of CD-ROM drive, I've used Toshiba and Apples just fine on mine. Older 4D machines
needed some firmware tweaks that made the drive look like a fixed disk for the initial SASH load from PROM.
The "video" thing on SGIs is substantially different from PCs. What is called "video" in PCs is called "graphics" in SGIs (and many other
workstations). SGI graphics are very good, even 8-bit Indy. The video addons were for video feeds, and included Indy Video and Cosmo Compress
boards. Stock Indys shipped with video-input (composite, S-video, and proprietary digital), but no output. Indy Video provided this.
Disk bandwidth is not great enough to capture full motion/screen video to disk without the Cosmo Compress card. Both options are
expensive, if you want to edit video get a Mac with FireWire.
Sound is quite good, and includes digital I/O (but not S/PDIF- for that you need an Octane).
I'd recommend IRIX 6.2- it's fast on older hardware, 64-bit (but the Indy isn't quite- it will still run N32, though, which 5.3 won't), and has POSIX compliance via
patches. IDF/IDL can be downloaded, and GCC 3.4 is pretty decent on MIPS hardware. Building software on 6.2 is less "informative" than 5.3, also.
In any case, a good set of electronic manuals ships on the distro media, as well as being available from techpubs on SGIs website.
Gotchas- don't set anything to SCSI ID0 - that's the controller on SGI machines.
Enjoy your new toy- you'll probably start saving up money for an Octane.
The last reminder, I promise ... VCF East 3.0 is this Saturday (one day this
year, not two) at the InfoAge Learning Center in Wall, New Jersey. The
hours are 9:30AM-6:30PM. Tickets are $10 for adults and $7 for ages 13 and
younger. We've got 18 exhibitors, five guest speakers (including Creative
Computing founder David Ahl and former ARPA director Steve Lukasik), and
some prizes available (like the Replica 1 kit and the Digi-Comp kit.) All
the details are posted at http://www.vintage.org/2006/east/ ... Our
sponsoring club is a non-profit group, so do yourself and us a favor and
check out the show.
- Evan
Maybe some other early Sun stuph too. Please respond
offlist. Thanks.
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Hi,
I've got an Indy that I would like to get working.
The first thing I notice is a *slot* (in the plastic
housing) for some sort of removable media (floppy?)
but no corresponding drive inside.
Is this intended for a floppy? Or, some other
similar (physical) sized medium? I assume that
whatever sort of drive it is, it uses a SCSI interface
(I don't see any other provisions)?
How is (whatever) *mounted*? There is a sled for
hard disk in the "slot" below this but no obvious
clues as to how to mount anything *above*!
And, what sorts of add-ons (?) mate to the main
board (I see what appear to be two daughtercard
conectors).
Lastly, is any of this worth playing with?
Thanks!
--don