Depending on what you're doing, it might be good to do two copies: an image and a set of extracted or semi-extracted files. On the QIC front,
Apollo wbak tapes and SGI "inst" tapes come to mind: if you copy off files using e.g. dd, you must write them back to a tape before you can
use them (format is proprietary and uses head and tail files). If you distcp or rbak them off as files also, you have more options (you can
either write a tape or set up some sort of network install system). Std tar and cpio files don't have this issue, I'm not sure about 1/2" systems.
Scott Quinn
Wherabouts is it located?
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Apr 17, 2006 6:19 PM
>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>Subject: Fw: I've got a DEC Micro PDP11
>
>I am not sure if I forwarded this to the list yet.... if this is a
>duplicate, my apologies. Contact original author directly, I have no
>affiliation, etc...
>
>Jay
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lane Winter" <ImaUser at isp.com>
>To: <jwest at classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 10:56 PM
>Subject: I've got a DEC Micro PDP11
>
>
>> with a RL02 and 2-3 disk packs.... not sure what to do with it. It does
>> work. It's been a "conversation piece" for awhile now but I'd like to sell
>> it. Not sure what it's worth tho. I might even be convinced into donating
>> it
>> if I knew it'd go to a display somewhere.
>>
>> Lane Winter
>>
>> reply via --> lanebw at comcast.net
>>
>
Hallo,
to install the Quadram Quadboard in my IBM-XT I need some help. I
found Your message about the manual.
My Board is rev. 6 from 1984.
Can You give me some informations about this board?
Greetings Lutz
Hallo,
um einQuadboard von 1984 8Rev. 6) in meinen IBM-XT zu integrieren
ben?tige ich einige Infos ?ber Hard- und Softwareeinstellungen.
MfG Lutz =
As the old timers will no doubt recall, this is old news and they've heard
it before. Newer list members may benefit and I haven't posted this for a
while, so here goes. I try to post this about once a year.
Among other things, I still own an ISP based in St. Louis, MO. We are a
webhosting/colocation firm primarily but we also provide a lot of local
access (dialup, T1, T3, xDSL, etc). This is not an operation run out of my
basement, we have a real datacenter, FM220 suppression, biometric access
controls, 30min online room ups as well as 7.5gw of diesel power backup, and
some fairly serious bandwidth.
What does this mean for classicmp'ers... well, basically - if you need or
want, I will host any classicc computer related website or ftp site, free of
charge. I'll also provide DNS services, email, mailing lists, etc. free of
charge. Unlimited bandwidth (well, ok, there are some sanity checks if you
pull half the sonet connection bandwidth and start to interfere with my
paying customers). Why? Because it's something I can give back to the
community since I don't have the electronics advice to give the list of the
caliber of say.. Tony Duel :) You'd still maintain your site, it'd just be
on one of our servers.
Is there a catch? Yes. I will only provide free services for clearly classic
computer related material. Do NOT ask me to host a website for pictures of
your house, your dog, your company, etc... well.. unless you are prepared to
pay going market rates - then I'd be all ears. But for any classiccmp
related website, there is no charge, ever. It's (I think) a sweet deal,
because you'd get your site in a world class datacenter with some stellar
reliability - at no cost to you. Because I own the company, you don't have
to worry about some friend hosting your site and then suddenly saying 6
months later "dude, I got a new job, can't host that site).
If anyone has a need for this, just drop me a note off-list.
Jay West
Stuart,
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 22:08, you wrote:
> It has been many months since you promised to release the TSX archives. How
> about sending or putting online for download exactly what you received?
> Isn't that what you told the author at S&H what you were going to do?
The source listings are already up on bitsavers - and one of my DCL (DEC
Computer Lunch) buddies here in SV has written a special OCR program that is
scanning the listings to re-create the original MACRO sources of TSX. So
there's plenty going on (no commitments on that totally happening, timing,
etc.).
> This is ridiculous. Should I approach S&H myself, on behalf of all of the
> other interested parties?
"Ridiculous" is in the mind of the beholder. Yes, I could have taken the time
to put up the TSX website as opposed to obtaining every RL02 pack and SMD
drive I could from S&H, preserving the contents, etc. But I figured that
"exercise", which took weeks of my time was more important than "releasing"
TSX code.
I'm required under my agreement with S&H to have a website where I can "log"
and "verify" to a reasonable extent that only hobbiests will be downloading
the system, etc.
I am committed to getting TSX into the hands of the "folks" - but I estimate
that it will take a week or so of my time - contiguous - to do it. That
hasn't happened yet - but I promise it will.
Regards,
Lyle
--
Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
Mountain View, CA
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
> I can confirm that we (JPL Computer Graphics Lab) used a PS-2 in mid
> '70s to mid '80s time frame. Doug's recollection feels about right
> to me, though I don't have documentation to support it.
I have a Genesco GCT-3000 ('76-ish..) which was on an Interdata
8/32 at JPL that supposedly was used to display decommutated
Viking Orbiter image data telemetry.
The other displays from the 70's that I have are a VT-11 with 19"
display, a Megatek Whizzard from Bob Shannon, and a unused 4014 still
in the original box.
> I recall that CDC had a fairly impressive
> large-screen color display graphics facility in the late 60's.
Was it the
> 250?
274
large round tube attached to a CDC 1700.
sort of like the IBM 2250/1130 combo
you may even see a flyer an info on it over at bitsavers soon :-)
> The tapes vary from MPE install
Just to put the word out.. I'm looking for MPE from the 70's and
very early 80's. Something that could run on Series II or III...
It's likely what Kevin has will be later than that.
> Can I just DD the tapes to a file
No. You will lose all the tape blocking/file mark information.
