Have you tried this with M7800 and M787 instead of M7228? I'd say if not,
try that, if yes, and if that works, then look over the DL11-W manual for
some sort of compatibility issue with the 11/45. This is just speculation,
but it's possible that you may have to use a M787 and disable the RTC on the
DL11-W or something strange like that.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jay West
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:32 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: 11/45 RTC
>
> Given that the system seems to pass a lot of diags, but fails
> the LTC test, I'm focusing there. From looking in the
> programming manual for the DL11-W, it appears that bit 7
> never being set means that there is no LTC L signal coming in
> to the DL11-W. It would appear that software clears this bit
> and then waits for it to set (by the square wave from the AC
> at 50 or 60 hz or so). According to the diag, bit 7 never
> sets, so I'm thinking I'm not getting any LTC signal from the
> power supply. I need to find that square wave signal and see
> if it's working and directed to the right place.
>
> My problem is finding that signal. My 11/45 is a KB11-A,
> serial number < 2000. The maintenance manual shows the LTC
> coming from the power supply to the power distribution board
> (top connector towards the cabinet door) shows six wires, the
> bottom one (brown) going to slot 1 row C where the M787
> option plugs in. My top connector does not have that many
> wires, only 3 or so. My system never had (I don't believe) a
> M787 card. The system came with two DL11-A (M7800), and a
> M7228 (KW11-P).
> But I don't think there was ever a LTC in
> slot 1. So is it possible that LTC isn't even routed out of
> the power supply? I'm wanting to use a single DL11-W with the
> onboard LTC. But doesn't that need to get the LTC signal from
> the backplane? If it wasn't ever routed to the system unit....
>
> So I'm not sure where to look. I'll pour over the manuals some more.
>
> Jay West
>
>
I think it is great that they want to collect the old manuals (too bad
they won't scan them themselves though).
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It takes a significant amount of work to do a good job of scanning
and post-processing an HP manual. Many of the schematic sheets are
extended length (>17" long)
I wonder what happened to all of the content they took down several
years ago (things that included mid-90's test gear like the 16500C)
FYI, I took a look at the 1630 manual, and it was recovered from
microfiche. I should bug someone I know about getting a paper copy
to scan.
The Boat Anchor Manual Archive has the Tektronix catalogs for 1982 and 1985.
Does anyone know of online copies of the catalog for other years?
Barring an online copy, does anyone have catalogs after 1985?
I'm trying to track down size/weight information on the following
items:
PEP301 System Control (may not be Tektronix)
HC01 Video/Copier Printer (may not be Tektronix)
9200T Color Display Terminal
9201T Color Display Terminal
9219 Logic Analyzer
9219T Logic Analyzer
9220 Logic Analyzer
9221 Logic Analyzer
9229 Logic Analyzer
If anyone can lookup the size (width, height, depth) and weight of
those items in their catalog and email them to me, it would be greatly
appreciated!
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I was just curious, for those who own them, is the KK11-A cache module
for the 11/34 worth acquiring? How much does it boost performance of
the machine, and in what areas?
An old Auto dealership closed and I got some interesting older equipment.
A Reynolds and Reynolds 1000 Z80? 8 bit computer, two floppy from
about 1980. An all in one with keyboard, monitor and two early 5 1/4"
floppys.
2 ADM 5 terminals, the classic early ADM all in one design.
3 Televideo 925 terminals with keyboards
Reynolds and Reynolds 2000 tower server (Multibus 1) No HD
This is actually a NCR 4350 7102.
Original IBM XT286 wi original box, no HD
Original IBM CGA Color Monitor wi original box and packing.
TI 820 Dot Matrix printer in its box. A real classic workhorse.
2 LA 120 Decwriter III printers. Why oh why do I want these. Will part
out or ship whole.
Nice IBM 2390 Plus 24 pin dot matrix printer.
A old Cosmowriter 4000 daisywheel printer with both parallel and
serial interfaces
A bunch of RJ45 serial cable kits.
And a OT Mac G3 300 small tower, Sony Monitor and no Hard drive. I
think I am going to try to get this to work. I have a spare HD but no
OS. I understand it will run OSX but slowly.
They kept all the hard drives rather than let me erase them. They even
stripped the Reynolds and Reynolds 1000 down trying to find a HD, not
realizing it is just a two floppy 8 bit computer. I had to put the
housings back on to get it in the van.+
The NCR 3450 tower is very heavy and awkward and I am inclined to
strip it down unless someone objects.
If anyone on the list is interested in anything let me know. Please
contact me off list or at whoagiii at gmail.com. I thought I would
mention it to the list first before it hits eBay. I am a good packer.
They had lots of space so anything they discontinued use to got sent
to the basement. I remember early Data General systems running in Auto
Parts stores also. This is one of the reasons I check the old users
when they close down. Unfortunately much of the equipment is quite
dirty.
--
Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
USA
I want to trace out the bus grant signals on my /45 to make sure there's not
a break somewhere. However, I don't see the backplane printsets on
bitsavers.
I could start at the first unibus slot in the system backplane and check BG4
through BG7. However, I'd rather start at wherever those 4 signals actually
originate. It's pretty hard to identify visually what pins and where, so I
wanted to check the prints. Then I can check from where BG4-7 orignate to
the end of the bus and make sure I have continuity.
Can some one point me in the right direction?
Jay West
I had thought lcds get damaged if theyre not allowed
to warm up after getting too cold? Dont particularly
know, but would think the freezing point of that stuph
is much less then h2o.
--- cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org
<healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
> At 9:33 PM +0100 2/18/06, lee at geekdot.com wrote:
> > > What is the danger related to storing CC gear
in extreme cold
> >> temperatures?
> >
> >One thing to keep in mind is that some liquid
crystal displays will be
> >permanently damaged by freezing. Others will stop
working, usually
> >turning completely opaque or completely
transparent, but will recover
> >when they warm up.
>
> Interesting. Any idea if this would effect the
original Game Boy's?
> I don't know what it is about them, but I had two of
them that lost
> lines on the display after they sat unused for a
year or two. At the
> same time I'm fairly certain neither would have
gotten frozen.
>
> Zane
>
>
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I will look at what Byte Paperbacks I have. They are all about
the 6800 (or perhaps more general: Motorola processors). I never
quite liked the Intel stuff, but that is an other topic :-)
I will probably make scans (next week) of the books I find in
the attic (this weekend), so I will post a list.
RA6800ML will be first, but if there is interest for some others,
I will scan them in order of # requests.
As a packratt I will indeed not sell books, except the case where
I have more than one copy. "VAX Architecture" or something like it
comes to mind ...
- Henk.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Holger Veit
> Sent: vrijdag 31 maart 2006 9:22
> To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: RA6800ML
>
> Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote:
> >In article <447524F844B59D48B8F7AE7F560935EE06C20047 at
> OVL-EXBE01.ocevenlo.oce.net>,
> > "Gooijen, Henk" <henk.gooijen at oce.com> writes:
> >
> >> Perhaps I should not type this message, and go to bed instead ...
> >> I am not going to sell my book, if that is what you
> >> suggest, Richard.
> >> I can scan or make a paper copy, but I will keep the
> >> original book.
> >
> >Sorry, I should have been more explicit... I meant that if
> the >original poster who is looking for the book has an ISBN
> then they >could find it through the Usual Suspects.
>
> The ISBN is available through the usual suspects - simply
> lookup at Amazon, but I wrote I haven't seen it pop up for
> used-sale for a while. I also do not expect Henk to sell it
> to me, BTW; copies or scans would be perfect for me.
>
> >Henk, I thought you said you didn't want to copy/scan it
> since that >would impose heavy wear on the spine?
>
> Now, I remember these paperbooks were not too thick (I once
> had Emmerichs Tiny Assembler and MONDEB from that class -
> unfortunately got lost - TinyAsm at least can be copied from
> old 1977 Byte issues), so I'am not sure whether it will wear
> out more than by simply reading the book. Unless you have a
> multi-page scanner where you'd have to destroy the spine.
>
> Regards
> Holger
>
>
>
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Every once in a while someone on this list will ask about manuals for
some piece of vintage test equipment that they picked up for working on
their vintage computer.
I was looking for a manual for an HP 6284A power supply and found this
ftp drop on agilent's site:
ftp://ftp.agilent.com/pub/manuals
There was no 6284 manual there, but there was one the 1630 logic
analyzer, and of course lots of other HP equipment.
The web page leading to this ftp site has an impossibly long URL, so I
won't try to quote it, but the page does say:
(quote)
Help us share old manuals! If you have an electronic copy of an old HP
or Agilent manual, we'd like to share it with your test colleagues. Send
a brief email letting us know what you have, and we will contact you
about receiving the file. I have a manual to share (manuals at agilent.com)
(end of quote)
I think it is great that they want to collect the old manuals (too bad
they won't scan them themselves though). If you happen to have any
scanned HP test equipment manuals, why not mail it to them to help build
the archive?
There is also a subdirectory of HP Journals, althoug there are only a
dozen or so issues. I'd imagine they'd post copies of any issues sent
to them as well.
ftp://ftp.agilent.com/pub/manuals/HPJournal
