> Now that my 11-23+ ("George" :) seems to be happy, it's time
> to start playing with the other new acquisition, an 11/24.
> Maybe that one will be "Elvis".
The Elvis joke is a Sun Microsystems thing. When pinging under Solaris
the reply is formatted to say <host> is alive. Therefore, it will say
"elvis is alive".
>Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:47:09 -0700
>From: Richard <legalize at xmission.com>
>Subject: Re: basic language startrek program
>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>Message-ID: <E1EuyUP-0003g0-00 at xmission.xmission.com>
>
>
>In article <43BED60D.3010607 at PACBELL.NET>,
> BOB LAAG <RLAAG at pacbell.net> writes:
>
>
>
>>Looking for info or the origin of a paper tape program in basic that
>>plays a startrek game with quadrants, stars, klingons, etc... I got it
>>back in the 70's from some military guys and it ran on my old computer
>>mainframe stuff... Just wondering if anyone recognizes this or wants
>>the file???
>>
>>
>
>This sounds very much like the star trek game that was on the HP3000
>I used at the University of Delaware circa 1978/1979.
>
>Did it print out your quadrant map with a little ASCII graphic?
>
>
The basic program was in the People's Computer Company Magazine in the
late 70's.
You could type it in and run it in Tiny Basic. It took up about 2k memory.
I ran it using PaloAlto Tiny Basic (which was only 2k itself).
I will see if I can find my copy of the magazine if you are willing to
type it in.
In the meantime, if anyone has an electronic version, let everybody know.
Peter,
Can you please contact me off list regarding your DEC kit. I suspect my
direct mails may be failing to reach you.
Thanks,
Pete
--
Pete Edwards
"Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future" - Niels
Bohr
Unfortunately the 11/24 switch settings (in the bitsavers copy of
the PDP 11/24 System Technical Manual) don't match the layout on
my M7133 CPU. They are for the KDF11-UA (revisions A-D) and upon
closer inspection mine is a KDF11-YA ( which is the last Rev. E).
My board has three DIPswitch packs, not two, and they are not set
to anything that the manual says should give the 9600 baud string,
which is what my scope sees coming out of the console port.
Does anyone have the correct switch settings?
thanks
Charles
Oops, correction.
The MASSBUS stuff is under "peripherals -> disk -> RM03".
- Henk.
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Hit the Send button too fast.
That is a nice complete machine you have, Charles.
I remember paying just UK ?300 for only that RH11.
Start looking for a MASSBUS tape drive, or disk drive,
** if you have plenty room and power **. The MASSBUS
stuff is not for the weak persons. All my MASSBUS stuff
is heavy, both in weight and in power consumption!
MASSBUS cables are approx. 30 - 40 mm thick ...
I have some MASSBUS stuff in the 11/70 page on my site.
As said, "I know notting" about the 11/24.
- Henk, PA8PDP.
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Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org namens Charles
Verzonden: za 07-01-2006 21:30
Aan: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: New 11/24, what to do first? More info.
>Contacts or loosen screws can fly through the BA-box in case of your 11/24
> during transport and can provoke short circuits while powering up.
>Always inspect your machine carefully, watch out for loosen parts and check
>the configuration of your system BEFORE aplying power to it.
Don't worry, Pierre, I did all that as soon as I got it home, well
before plugging it in. But thanks for the reminder.
I have now inventoried the cards and have the following:
1 M7133 KDF11-UA 11/24 CPU with line clock and 2 SLU
1 M7134 KT-24 Unibus map, extension to 22 bits
1 M8743 (ECC RAM, either 512 Kb or 1 Mbyte)
2 M8722 (ECC Memory either 128 Kb or 256 Kb each)
1 M8188 FPF11 floating point processor
1 M7762 RL11 disk controller RL01/02
1 M7258 LP11 printer controller
1 DSD A2130-6 <---------- (what is this? Floppy controller?)
4 M7819 DZ11-A eight RS232 ports each
1 M920 Unibus connector
1 M7297 RH11 MASSBUS Parity Control
1 M7296 RH11 MASSBUS Control & Status Registers
1 M7295 RH11A MASSBUS Bus Controller
1 M7294 RH11 MASSBUS Data Buffer and Control
3 M5904 RH11 MASSBUS Control Transceivers
1 M9300 Unibus terminator
1 M9312 Bootstrap Terminator
According to the PDP11 Bus Handbook the Massbus is for
transferring blocks of data at high speed (between mass storage
devices like disks or tapes?)
When I flip the BOOT switch the front panel RUN light comes on
briefly and goes out again. Similar behavior to the 11/23+ when it
enters ODT mode. There is a green LED on each MOS memory board
which is lit, and a row of three (status?) LED's on the CPU, the
rearmost staying lit and the other two dark. Time to RTFM I guess
:) but I'll bet I can hook up a terminal to the SLU on the CPU
board and have it talk to me!
I wonder, since there is an RL controller card,
-Charles
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Yes, you can Charles. The RL11 controller is for the RL01 and
the RL02, and the RL11 can be installed in any UNIBUS machine.
(Ok, you must have a hex slot available).
Look if you have XXDP for the 11/24 on your pack.
As the CPU has 2 ports, I guess that one will be configured
for the console (guessing, because I do not have a /24.
Still missing that one in my UNIBUS-based collection).
BTW, my RL02's (both) happily boot RT11, after I swapped the
RL11 from the attick! I can even boot while the RL01 and both
RL02's are in the chain, but I knew that you can mix these
types of drives. However, the RL01 has a READY lamp that is
always on, it does not interfere with the other drives ...
I will be looking at some repair work in a few weeks or so.
First, I want to get my RK07's also operational on the 11/34,
and even before that, I will make a few copies of my dearly
treasured RT11 and XXDP RL02 packs !! :-)
- Henk, PA8PDP.
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Van: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org namens Charles
Verzonden: za 07-01-2006 21:34
Aan: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: New 11/24, what to do first? More info (cont'd)
What I was wondering (when I mistakenly hit Send) was:
...since it has an RL controller card if I hooked up my RL02 with
the XXDP pack, can it be run on this 11/24 system too?
thanks
Charles
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Besides the Lilith Modula-2 workstation, what other computers were
made from the AMD 29xx bit-slice architecture?
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What I was wondering (when I mistakenly hit Send) was:
...since it has an RL controller card if I hooked up my RL02 with
the XXDP pack, can it be run on this 11/24 system too?
thanks
Charles
"General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> schrieb am 07.01.06 18:37:57:
>
> Now that my 11-23+ ("George" :) seems to be happy, it's time to
> start playing with the other new acquisition, an 11/24. Maybe that
> one will be "Elvis".
>
> It's got quite a lot of cards inside, but I haven't inventoried
> them yet (this afternoon's task). Obviously I need to find out
> exactly what it's populated with, and look for a user's guide and
> technical manual on bitsavers.
>
> Keeping in mind that I know nothing about this machine yet, what
> should I do as a "quick start"? I have powered it up and the fans
> and power-ok lights come on, so that's a good beginning.
>
Charles, please try to avoid powering up machines you got if you don't
know their (working) condition.
Contacts or loosen screws can fly through the BA-box in case of your 11/24
during transport and can provoke short circuits while powering up.
Always inspect your machine carefully, watch out for loosen parts and check
the configuration of your system BEFORE aplying power to it.
Otherwise, parts can be damaged even without your knowledge. Parts, you'll have
difficulties to find replacements for later on.
Regards,
Pierre
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