test-drb July 2005

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Promised photos of SX64 in an industrial setting.

by chenmel＠earthlink.net

I took a few shots of the SX64 at work today as it's set up and in semi-active use. Feel free to use these images on your website if you so desire. http://sasteven.multics.org/SX64/SX64.html -Scott

18 years, 11 months

WOW!!!! $15k DEC PDP-8 CLASSIC MINICOMPUTER SYSTEM DIGITAL PDP8

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Not much 1000 stuff - I rarely even hear about it. 2000 (2500) is around, but rare. -- I think most of that came back as trades to SGI, or were field upgraded when they could to the 020 IP CPUs. Weird Stuff (was trying to remember when, probably late 80's) got SGI's trade-ins. I wasn't interested in that sort of stuff at the time. Did build a nice 31xx and wrote all of the disc contents to tape from what they had. Was a lot of fun stuff on those discs.. Even back then, there was very little 1000 stuff. The rarest were the 1000 attached graphics terminals running the Stanford V Kernel. I gave the SGI to someone.. probably long done by now. I remember running down to the Univ of Arizona to pick up a 3130 around the same time, and working on the SGI hardware FAQ. They really weren't very useful as a GP workstation, though, because of the way the frame buffer worked. Everything went through the graphics pipe and rendering processor, so you couldn't just BLT to the screen. They used Excelan enet cards so the TCP/IP had the usual problems (IP adr hardcoded, et. al.) Still have a bunch of print sets for the Multibus boards. Just waiting for the last of SGI to croak before putting them on bitsavers.

18 years, 11 months

Power and the RA82

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 11 2005, 18:07, Tim Shoppa wrote: > On a tangential note, is it possible to "lean" on a typical household > breaker to stop it from tripping? Sort-of-like "battle override" on > a Navy ship... Or is the lever only good for resetting, and holding > it will not stop it from tripping? I think the latter but I've never > tried it for real. It may depend on the breaker. Some of our domestic RCD breakers can't be held in, but the normal MCBs on domestic mains distribution panels can. I used to hold in the 20A breaker on the circuit to my 19A UPS for a second or two whenever it was switched back on, because otherwise the switch-on surge tripped the breaker (class D breakers like we have in machine rooms at work don't have that trip problem). Oh, and if you don't think a 19A UPS is very big, remember it's 240VAC in the UK. That's 4.5KW, enough to keep quite a few RA82s running. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

18 years, 11 months

univac something or other

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Anyone know what this is? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7335084988 It appears too be a CRT terminal of some sort, but the box is pretty large, which is odd. Key to disk maybe? From the styling it looks like late 70's, early 80's? This is the item's second time up. I've written to the seller twice for more info but he's not bothered to respond. I'm curious to know if anyone recognizes this. Google didn't turn anything up. Brian

18 years, 11 months

univac something or other

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Hi Brian, for a moment I thought it was an SSP, but the SSP would have some 8 inch floppy drives. IIRC the SSP (System Support Processor?) was needed to startup the 1100 series before you could mount a tape with a sysgen'ed bootable system. Unisus (Sperry) machines required a sysgen for every disk or tape drive or whatever. Very unlike PDP-11's which recognize what options are connected to the bus. But then again, an 1100 is quite a different league, as is EXEC, the Operating System. This is all very vague to me. Anybody, please feel free to correct me. So, I am not sure Brian. The SSP's I ever saw where alike, but then different :~) my 2c, - Henk, PA8PDP. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Sent: 11-7-2005 20:27 Subject: univac something or other Anyone know what this is? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7335084988 It appears too be a CRT terminal of some sort, but the box is pretty large, which is odd. Key to disk maybe? From the styling it looks like late 70's, early 80's? This is the item's second time up. I've written to the seller twice for more info but he's not bothered to respond. I'm curious to know if anyone recognizes this. Google didn't turn anything up. Brian

18 years, 11 months

FW: [FreecycleRockville] Offer: VAX VMS manuals

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

Available in Maryland. I can't get or store them. > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Sudbrink [mailto:TSudbrink at omhrc.gov] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 3:55 PM > To: Bill Sudbrink > Subject: FW: [FreecycleRockville] Offer: VAX VMS manuals > > > Hey Bill, > Not sure if this is something that would interest you but I thought I'd > pass it along. > Todd > > > > Subject: [FreecycleRockville] Offer: VAX VMS manuals > > Free 30+ VAX VMS manuals in original DEC Grey Binders. Most have never > been used. > > Pick up in Olney near Mont Gen Hosp.

18 years, 11 months

Discrete Component FlipFlop

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi If they are JK's, you could make a divider connected to some LED's and use a 555 to run them. That symbol on them must be from some manufacture. These might have been fro some embedded system, such as an elevator and not necessarily from a computer. A machine I worked on in the service had a number of flop boards and other logic boards ( different form factor than yours ) but was not a computer. Dwight >X-Server-Uuid: 5FC0E2DF-CD44-48CD-883A-0ED95B391E89 >Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:13:37 -0700 >From: "Marvin Johnston" <marvin at rain.org> >X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: cctalk at classiccmp.org >X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.81, clamav-milter version 0.81b on keith.ezwind.net >X-Virus-Status: Clean >X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=4.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 >X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on keith.ezwind.net >Subject: Re: Discrete Component FlipFlop >X-BeenThere: cctalk at classiccmp.org >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 >List-Id: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk.classiccmp.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request at classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk> >List-Post: <mailto:cctalk at classiccmp.org> >List-Help: <mailto:cctalk-request at classiccmp.org?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request at classiccmp.org?subject=subscribe> >X-MMS-Spam-Confidence: moderate >X-MMS-Content-Rating: broadcast >X-MMS-Spam-Filter-ID: A2005071105_IBF_2.0.0 >X-WSS-ID: 6ECC76BE2CC1743744-01-01 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >> >Marvin Johnston wrote: >> >> Our annual Bazaar was held today with all the leftover stuff now at my >> >> house ... briefly! In searching through the stuff this afternoon, I >> >> found several boards that I couldn't identify. One is labeled "FlipFlop" >> >> and the other "Inverter". I put up a picture of both sides of the >> >> FlipFlop at: http://www.rain.org/~marvin/flipflop.jpg > >> I also noted that I don't see any 3 lead devices? I doubt >> it was for tubes so where are the transistors? >> Dwight > >The transistors are inside the plastic pieces at each end of the board. >The flipflop board has one on each side, and the inverter has two on >each side. The plastic pieces are riveted to the board, so I can't >easily see the transistor ID. I think I've checked almost everything >now, and there are three flipflop boards and two inverters. >

18 years, 11 months

Computer Museum

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I got this today from a from a guy that says that he's planning on setting up a computer museum in the Orlando area. Interested parties should contact him directly. Joe >Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:18:49 -0400 >From: Vince Custodio <vincemba1 at hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Computer Museum >X-Originating-IP: [68.205.53.38] >X-Sender: vincemba1 at hotmail.com >To: rigdonj at cfl.rr.com >X-Originating-Email: [vincemba1 at hotmail.com] >X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine >Original-recipient: rfc822;rigdonj at cfl.rr.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2005 20:18:49.0714 (UTC) > FILETIME=[EBACCD20:01C58267] > >Hi, Joe > >Thank you for your quick response. >We are only in the initial planning stage, thus we need to know what >equipment is available. Locating, and subsequently gathering, the collection >is the longest process, so we are starting it first. >Any possible contributors should email me a list of equipment. This list is >forwarded to our Artifact Collection Committee. They decide which pieces >have historical value and thus contact the contributor to determine the >condition of the equipment as well the terms of donation/loan to the museum. >We have a million things to do before the museum even opens. Thus,the museum >building's location and whether it will be constructed or will be an >existing structure is much further down the road. > >Do you have other collector's email addresses? or would you prefer to >forward my emails? > >Thank you > >Sincerely, >Vince Custodio > > > > >>From: "Joe R." <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com> >>To: Vince Custodio <vincemba1 at hotmail.com> >>Subject: Re: Computer Museum >>Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 15:48:04 >> >>Hi Vince, >> >> I have several items that I would consider loaning to your museum. Mike >>Haas, dogas at bellsouth.net, is a collector in Savanna Ga. He may consider >>loaning you some equipment. I think there is another collector in the >>Miami area and I think there are a couple in Tampa area but I don't know >>them. There's another guy near me the used to collect computers but he's >>inactive now. He may loan you some stuff though. >> >> What kind of computers are you looking for? >> >> Any idea when you plan on opening your museum? >> >> Joe >> >>At 02:43 PM 7/6/05 -0400, you wrote: >> >Hi, >> >My name is Vince Custodio. I am an Orlando entrepreneur with an interest >>in >> >old computers and their history. I will be opening a Computer Museum in >>the >> >Orlando, FL area. This project is in collaboration with ITT Technical >> >Institute, Lake Mary, FL. >> >I saw your posting at: >> >http://www.cs.unc.edu/~yakowenk/classiccmp/ccrs_list.html. >> >We are currently seeking computer equipment donations or loans to our >> >museum. As a donor, you will receive credit in the respective exhibit as >> >well as having a lifetime membership to the museum. You will also be >>invited >> >to our ribbon-cutting ceremony and grand opening. >> >We will not physically need equipment right now but I am compiling a list >>of >> >potential contributors. >> > >> >Do you have anything that you would consider contributing? >> >Do you know other collectors in Florida? >> > >> >If you have any questions and prefer to call me, you may do so at: 321 >> >377-3412 (my company is Pro Detailz so that is how I answer my cell >>phone) >> > >> >Thank you. >> > >> >Vince Custodio >> >1122 Brantley Estates Dr >> >Altamonte Springs, FL >> > >> > >> > >> > > >

18 years, 11 months

international shipping

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

Can anyone tell me the best way to have something shipped from say England or the Netherlands (or Germany). Or even Brazil/Argentina. Or even Australia. I know it's not ever going to be cheap, but when you calculate 20 or so pounds from S.America - $300+, I figure there must be a better way. For those of you who already don't know it, FedEx usually beats UPS by a mile at domestic postage. Perhaps half in alot of cases. But they don't cover as many areas as it seems UPS does. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

18 years, 11 months

international shipping

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "plato computer" <computer at officereach.net> > >By far, call up DHL and tell them taht you are doing international ---snip--- Hi But how does one ship a rack mounted machine that weighs about 80 lbs and is 15 inches tall?? Dwight

18 years, 11 months

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test-drb July 2005