Hello Al,
thanks very much for the reply.
I am posting the reply to the list, so that others are informed too.
I am not 100% clear what you mean with the last sentence.
However, it looks that the documents will be available for bitsavers
and that is good enough for me. If needed, I will support (donate)
for the good cause :~)
thanks!
- Henk, PA8PDP.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of aek at bitsavers.org
> Sent: woensdag 18 mei 2005 14:34
> To: classiccmp at classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: question about 11/60 documentation on eBay
>
>
> ak6dn is Don North, a friend of mine and one of the people
> who worked on the 11/60 and 11/74
>
> If he is outbid or sniped, I will get these documents for him.
ak6dn is Don North, a friend of mine and one of the people
who worked on the 11/60 and 11/74
If he is outbid or sniped, I will get these documents for him.
Oops sorry, I forgot to mention that I knew that (www.qrz.com)
The real question is whether Donald is on this list.
With HAM radio amateurs, the reference to a person is often
his call sign, not his first name :~)
- Henk, PA8PDP.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Nico de Jong
> Sent: woensdag 18 mei 2005 11:26
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: question about 11/60 documentation on eBay
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gooijen H" <GOOI at oce.nl>
> To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:13 AM
> Subject: question about 11/60 documentation on eBay
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > there are several documentation items up for auction on eBay,
> > and most of them have a bid. However, I do not recognize all
> > the bidders. I know al_kossow :~) , but is ak6dn also on this
> > list?
> I do not want to bid against somebody who is also on
> > ClassicCmp, but do want a copy of that documentation because
> > I will own an 11/60 in a few weeks.
> > If "ak6dn" is not on this list I will go for them!
> >
> > I am quite sure I will need the doc as I will not take the
> > whole system (corporate cabinet), but only the CPU and I/O box
> > and the two power supplies plus wiring harness. State of the
> > system: unknown! so the maintenance print set is most welcome.
> >
> > If somebody else on this list has 11/60 documentation available,
> > which is not on bitsavers, let me know! Perhaps we can work
> > something out ...
> >
> > I am prepared to pay part of the winning bids if I can get
> > access to the documentation: in paper to scan it, or digital.
> > I hope it is not too much against ethics. I let somebody win
> > the auction, and when the bidder *owns* the stuff, he is free
> > to make it accessible ... I don't want to start a recent thread
> > all over again.
> >
> > thanks,
> > - Henk, PA8PDP.
> >
> AK6DN is listed as Donald N. North in Saratoga CA.
>
> Nico (OZ1BMC)
>
>
Hi all,
there are several documentation items up for auction on eBay,
and most of them have a bid. However, I do not recognize all
the bidders. I know al_kossow :~) , but is ak6dn also on this
list? I do not want to bid against somebody who is also on
ClassicCmp, but do want a copy of that documentation because
I will own an 11/60 in a few weeks.
If "ak6dn" is not on this list I will go for them!
I am quite sure I will need the doc as I will not take the
whole system (corporate cabinet), but only the CPU and I/O box
and the two power supplies plus wiring harness. State of the
system: unknown! so the maintenance print set is most welcome.
If somebody else on this list has 11/60 documentation available,
which is not on bitsavers, let me know! Perhaps we can work
something out ...
I am prepared to pay part of the winning bids if I can get
access to the documentation: in paper to scan it, or digital.
I hope it is not too much against ethics. I let somebody win
the auction, and when the bidder *owns* the stuff, he is free
to make it accessible ... I don't want to start a recent thread
all over again.
thanks,
- Henk, PA8PDP.
>
>Subject: Re: mini versus micro?
> From: chris <cb at mythtech.net>
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:26:50 -0400
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts " <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
>
>>1. Microcomputer
>>
>>A "microcomputer" is defined as a computer having no more than two
>>microprocessors used for general purpose processing within the computer.
>>For the purposes of this class, a "microprocessor" is defined as a central
>>processing unit comprised of not more than 4 individual LSI intgerated
>>circuit on a single board, with the entire ALU being contained within a
>>single integrated circuit.
>
>Will this definition change when Apple starts selling 4 processor G5
>towers? Or will those (and 4 processor Pentium workstations), not apply
>because they are far too new?
>
>-chris
><http://www.mythtech.net>
It's alrady that bad.
The average Pentium micro (PC) has not less than three often more cpus.
For example:
CPU pentium S at 100mhz
Keybord interface 8042 micro
Keyboard (has one of several micros)
CDrom (at lest one micro)
IDE disks (one sometimes two micros)
Enhanced graphics card (Micro, esp if MP3 or???)
Shall I be more pendantic?
the definitions are far too heavy.
Size and power required are better definers followed by basic design.
For the most part there were no microcomputers when minis roamed the
earth. By time micros became something significant the minis were
then called SuperMinis. This points out capability.
BUT: then you have something like microVAX2000 thats nearly a
half cubic foot box at maybe 150W power and can easily serve
a few users (at least under VMS). Its a archetecture of a
supermini implemented as a micro in a tiny box.
Labels, use care when applying.
Allison
I'm the proud owner of a SOTA 286i board (upgrades an 8088/8086 pee cee to a
12.5MHz 80286) without any docs. (Google and Usenet archives have proved
empty.) I actually have a need for this board to work, but I have no idea what
the jumper settings are. The one(s) I am interested in are the settings for
which host CPU is attached -- I can gather from what I *was* able to find that
it supports "8088", "Standard 8088" (whatever that means) and "8086". It came
with an 8086-2. My machine runs an 8088-1.
Clearly, I'd like jumper settings so I don't blow both boards to kingdom come.
Anyone have the specs/jumper settings of this accelerator board?
--
Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/
Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/
Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/
I recently obtained a large amount of Sinclaire stuff from an estate. I
know the stuff is not worth a whole bunch, but I would rather it not get
junked. If you see something you want, let me know. I would like shipping
costs reimbursed, plus a token amount to cover my time and effort and
Paypal expenses (if you use Paypal, do not use this email address! Wait
for instructions!). Of course, real offers will be accepted as well! First
come first serve, too, depending on how much I like you. Working condition
is unknown!
(several) New in box TS1000 systems, boxes worn
(1) Used in box TS2040 printer
(1) Used in box TS2068 system, with books and cartridges
(1) box of TS1000 and TS2068 software cassettes, maybe 70 total
(1) bag of two rolls of TS2040 printer paper
(1) JLO EPROM burner for the TS2068, looks like a kit
(1) JLO port expander, four or five ports wide
(several) TS1016 16K memory modules
(stack) ZX Computing, Sinclaire Quarterly magazines, 20 or so
(1) Used ZX81 with older ZX 16K memory module and original books
(1) use in box GE cassette recorder, specifially touted for micro use!
(1) CP2068 Centronics printer adaptor for the TS2068, with software
(1) homebrew modem for the ZX bus
(1) pile of books, user group newsletters (Washington DC based), misc
(1) Kaypro 2000 laptop bag
Let me know off list soon!
William Donzelli
aw288 at osfn.org
OK, it has been just a few minutes, and I am getting a lot of replies.
Many want basically "the whole pile" (or nearly) - great, shipping to one
person would be nice.
So throw some cheapo offers to me...
William Donzelli
aw288 at osfn.org
