>From: "JP Hindin" <jplist at kiwigeek.com>
>
>
>On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Ashley Carder wrote:
>> north of Orangeburg, where the stuff is located. I
>> can't remember... how heavy is that S/34? I remember
>> that it was about 4+ feet tall and maybe 6 or 8 feet
>> deep. I can remember one night when I was playing
>
>Having moved one from Arkansas to Iowa, I can tell you that it isn't a
>task to be taken on lightly. Particularly without a lift-deck.
>
>I'm guessing the unit weighs around 900lbs, is approximately 7' long, 3'
>deep and 4' high.
>The machine is on good quality casters, so it'll roll like a dream, but
>it's extreme weight makes it a royal pain in the butt to move.
>
>If you'd like a chuckle, you can view my attempts to move it using a Ford
>F150, a winch and a pair of lawnmower ramps:
> http://www.kiwigeek.com/hjp/comps/IBM_s34/PickUp/
>
>JP
Hi
Of course, there is always the option of
renting a forklift. Most any rental place
has them.
Dwight
Hi,
has anyone got any details on the above device? It is a 20mA loop to V24
interface box, labelled s a "Digital converter line driver".
I thought I'd ask before I trace the circuit.
Thanks
Jim.
Please see our website the " Vintage Communication Pages" at WWW.G1JBG.CO.UK
>From: "woodelf" <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca>
>
>Dwight K. Elvey wrote:
>
>>Hi
>> They also had ROMs for Forth, that I find more useful than
>>BASIC.
>>
>>
>Well if Forth had floating point math is could see it competing with BASIC.
>Other than GAMES I found very little other calculator style programs could
>be written in BASIC. In hindsight word processing and acounting and games
>that really made the mass market for computers.
Hi
It should be noted that the first version of Word Star ( I think
that is the one ) was written in Forth. I'm not saying the fellow
that did it was using Forth correctly, just that he was able to
get it working in a time frame that would have been unrealistic
using BASIC or assembly( by his words ).
Floating point has been a common extension to Forth for a
number of years. It is just that most uP implementations were
done from FIG source listing that didn't have floating point.
The lack of floating point has surely caused many to avoid
Forth. It is a shame that most all applications that the person
believes that floating point is needed can often be better
implemented in integer of fixed point. It is a shame that
most uP's don't properly support fixed point multiplies and
divides.
Dwight
>Ben alias woodelf
>PS. while on the topic of 6502's , does anybody know where I can get
>a pdf online data sheet 68B50 ? Datasheets for the 8 bit stuff is getting
>harder to find all the time for the original products.
All 6800 stuff is getting hard to find. Recently I was writing
a disassembler for the 6800 to look at code on a pinball machine.
I had to dig real deep into my pile of books before finding
something with the code described in it.
Dwight
Ethan bemoaned:
> I have an old 465 that seems to have died from loneliness... it has a
> dead short somewhere in the PSU such that one of the internal fuses
> blows violently. I keep meaning to get around to fixing it (it's my
> newest scope (of 4)), but just never mange to do much more than prod
> at it.
>
> -ethan
If you wander over to <https://www.logsa.army.mil/pubs.htm> and click
on "Electronic Technical Manuals (ETMs) Online" (acceptance of the loss
of your first-born is required) you will find a wealth of manuals for
older test gear. The 465 service and calibration manuals are there in
PDF (with hyperlinks!).
CRC
>
>Subject: Re: Z8530 (was Re: Navtel 9460 Protocol Analyzer info?)
> From: Brad Parker <brad at heeltoe.com>
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:15:01 -0400
>pretty veratile chip. not bad once you got used to it. difficult to
>use w/dma hardware, however.
I find that odd as the 8530 had on board DMA. I have a tube of them
in the PLCC package and fine them not only fast but fairly similar
to the Z80 SIO. Now thats not to say the Z80sio wasn't pita to
program either. The only other beast out there like the SIO was the
NEC MPSC or 7201 (SS as I8274), that was a sio for 808x busses and
also a pain to program for.
Allison
>From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk>
---snip---
>
>> The AIM-65 had BASIC as a rather common option
>> (don't remember if it was always present), and routinely came with a
>> full-sized ASCII keyboard
>
>Oh, yep, ours has a proper keyboard too. Can't recall whether it has
>BASIC fitted or not.
>
>cheers
>
>Jules
>
>
Hi
They also had ROMs for Forth, that I find more useful than
BASIC.
Dwight
>There's three curious things about this. One, it of course gets
>through text-matching filters. Two, it retroactively ruinates
>real ASCII art (if this catches on, seems most unlikely). Three,
>is there a drawing program for this?
The next generation of spam filters needs to start doing spell checking.
If more then a certain number of words don't match the dictionary file,
then it is rejected.
This does double duty, helps filter out spam using letter substitution,
and also helps filter out people who can't be bothered with spell check
(including all those teens that type like they are chatting via text
messaging). :-)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>
>Subject: Re: Z8530 (was Re: Navtel 9460 Protocol Analyzer info?)
> From: Brad Parker <brad at heeltoe.com>
>last time I checked the Zilog 8530 didn't have any dma. it's not
>capable of being a bus master but itself.
>
>perhaps we're talking about different things?
Yep I munged it with another. The parts I have are the 85C30 and that part is also different
>from the base 8030. It has a few improvements.
It was pretty easy to mix it all up as I was using it in a Z280 enviroment.
Allison
