I had my eyes opened last year when I stayed at a home in Hungary and
had the chance to talk with the owner. Somehow the conversation turned
to the Communist takeover of Hungary back in 1956. She mentioned how all
the services went downhill from what they had been. BUT she also
mentioned some of the pluses such as zero unemployment. I have since
heard this from others, and I had never thought that Communism had ANY
pluses except for the people running the government. Also more
importantly to the comments below, I think you will find that Communism
and Socialism are not the same.
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Michael Sokolov wrote:
>
> > That is why we need a socialist government that would eliminate
> > unemployment with a massive public works program that would hire
> > millions of people to do the re-ASCII-fication work.
>
> Michael,
>
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Sellam Ismail wrote:
>
> Sorry to burst your bubble, but your experiment has been tried already.
> It was called the Soviet Union. It crumbled in a most mighty fashion
> after about 50 years. Simply stated, Communism doesn't work.
>
> Works very nicely
Assuming there are no bad blocks on the floppy
A Catweazel board in a PC will read DEC double density discs as well
although I've not been very impressed with abilities of the data
separator
code on double-density data.
I've had the best results recovering RX02 data using dual-wide
QBus floppy controllers that have a 50 pin interface (Sigma Designs et.
al.)
and a Qume DT-8 drive.
I run RT11 on a ZIP drive, read a bunch of images, and sneakernet the
ZIP cart over to a system with E11 to dump the images.
Expanded list:
This is kind of a mixup, things are listed as I got to them. If you want to
trade for them, great, if not e-mail me and I might give it to you FFS. I'm in
Western Wash., and I will ship stuff.
Sun 4-drive lunchbox (most parts were removed)
Sun Ultra-1 case (PS bad)
I'm probably going to toss these, but if anyone needs them, they're FFS.
Wyse-150 terminal -- works but NVRAM battery dead (BR-type lithium)(hit space
on powerup to clear batt error)
RS/6000 3CT parts. processor card, planar, S4.5 memory card, floppy, P/S,
SCSI cable, processor power card,
case, Medeco lock&key, Ethernet interface card (AUI & thin), probably
some other stuff.
Novell NetWare 2.2 serialized 5 user & manuals, for 286, 386, 486
Microsoft InPort bus mouse (8-bit ISA).
Okidata Microline 24 pin printhead, carriage, narrow-format gear rack, RS-232
interface & tractor
Compaq ProLiant drive tray for SCA drives, wide-ultra compatible [may be
taken]
Sun SPUD-2 sled
Power Macintosh 7200/75 Logic board
HP PA-8000 processor fan/heatsink assembly, from C180
Macintosh 1.44 MB diskette drive (new type-with door)
Mac (DB-15) to VGA (HD-15) video cable
Texas Microsystems SVC-70 SBus Versatec interface
Sun SPARCstation 5/110, 128MB/2GB with SunOS 4.1.3_U1 or Solaris 2.6,
includes Type 5c keyboard/mouse
Indigo2 feet (in IMPACT purple)
IBM P-200 20" 13W3 Trinitron monitor with 13W3 cable.
IRIS Indigo drive sled
IBM RS/6000 keyboard (clicky IBM with integrated speaker)
IRIS Indigo2 IMPACT R4400/250 (Solid IMPACT)
Indigo2 IMPACT R4400/250 Dual Head (Solid/Extreme)
Indy R5000SC/150, XL8
(IRIX backups with above if wanted)
Power Macintosh 7200 (Upgraded to Tsunami/180MHz)(can downgrade to orig. if
wanted)
IBM MCA GTX-150M graphics for RS/6000
IBM CATIA/CADAM Version 4 Release 2 software for AIX
IBM AIX version 4.3.3 documentation
IBM buttons and dials, model 6094-010 & 6094-020
Sun type 5c keyboard
Dell Latitude CP PCMCIA card slot module
Dell Latitude CP keyboard
Dell Latitude CP 233 MHz Pentium-M processor module
Dell Latitude CP touchpad& palm rest
Dell Latitude CP bottom case with latches.
Things I'm looking for: Motorola 88k (e.g. AViiON) , DEC stuff, SGI
Indigo/IRIS 68k, small Control Data/Data General, and other "interesting" hardware,
also Mac stuff, MMJ->console (DB-25m) cable, scope probes (for Tek 555? scope),
SCSI cables, Sun Ultra1 RAM, and so on.
S/W: IRIX, 4.0.5 (All platforms/IDE) Domain/OS 10.4.1 (tapes or
installation tools and Authorized Area copy), DG/UX for AViiON 88k, NeXTstep/OpenStep
(Intel/Sun), fun IRIX/SunOS/Solaris/Domain/HP-UX stuff, things like that.
parallel keyboard for CP/M system, Apollo documentation (425e/SR10.4.1)
or-make me an offer.
-Scott Quinn
There are 10 of these on ebay for ?15 each. Postage is quite high for
just one. But they end tomorrow.
I have no connection with seller, just thought someone would be interested.
Dan
Jay, thank you for your definition of classicness, I have saved your
message and will use it as a reference. It perfectly agrees with my
own thoughts on what is classic and what isn't, and I'm glad that you
were able to put it in writing eloquently so I didn't have to. :-)
MS
In going though the archived ClassicCmp messages I'm getting ready to
send to Jay, I ran across several that were quite interesting. This one
by Doug Salot was a discussion about the "first" personal computer.
*************
Hi, ClassicCmp.
I haven't re-subscribed yet, but I hope to as soon as my life reaches a
quiescent state (I'm done breaking eggs, and I'm now working on the
omelette). I check Kevan's web archive once in a while, so I got a
chance
to catch the "first pc" thread.
Of course, my idea of crowning a machine with the title "the first pc"
was
intended to be a catalyst for discussion, and to help dispel the popular
myth that the Altair was the first pc, or that it started the hobbyist
movement, or any such nonsense.
However, I think Simon is the best candidate for that title. Yes, there
were other simple machines built before Simon, such as Stibitz's relay
calculator, the first version of which was built on his kitchen table.
But I don't consider such one-offs to be viable contenders.
Simon was built in 1950 by Edmund Berkeley for the express purpose of
educating the masses and with the express hopes of fostering a computer
hobbyist movement.
So, who was this Berkeley guy? He was one of the lesser known players
in
the start of the computer revolution. He was a mathematician who worked
on the Harvard Mark II, he worked with Eckert and Mauchly to help define
the Univac, he founded the ACM, he started the first computer magazine,
etc.
How did Simon differ from other simple relay machines, like the first
Stibitiz calculators? It was more general purpose, it was portable, and
it was popularized in the press. 13 articles on Simon appeared in
Radio-Electronics in 1950 and 1951. It was the subject of a cover story
in Scientific American. It was covered in two of Berkeley's books. It
was given television coverage and appeared in such mainstream magazines
as
Life.
Berkeley was the first computer evangelist -- the first to articulate
the
idea of a personal computer, and the first to build one. Of course,
there
were others, such as Vanevar Bush, who described futuristic visions, but
Berkeley dedicated a good part of his life to making computers
accessible
to mere mortals.
I haven't stumbled upon a machine yet more deserving of "the first pc"
title than Simon, and given the depth of Berkeley's work, I don't expect
to. But Simon was just the first milestone towards the goal of
accessible
personal computers, and it doesn't diminish the importance of the PDP-8,
the Mark-8, or even the lowly IBM PC.
OK, I'll crawl back under my rock now.
-- Doug
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http://www.blinkenlights.com/ Nearly Forgotten Personal
Computers
All:
I'm working on another side project, a Mini-ITX conversion of a
non-working PCjr system. I don't have a keyboard for it, but I can choose
>from wired or wireless PCjr or standard keyboards. For the wireless PCjr
keyboard, I don't have the thingey that would connect to the PC.
Has anyone ever tried to use the PCjr wireless keyboard on a modern
system? Any recommentations?
Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
/************************************************************/
From: "William Layer" <william.layer(a)comcast.net>
>> Thanks for the info so far.. here are the ugly details on the 'kit'..
[details on the SD System S-100 card set in an Altair 8800 chassis,
with assorted other cards]
"Randy McLaughlin" posted:
Herb Johnson has some great stuff on your disk controller you need to get:
http://retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/s100.html
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Thanks for the referral, Randy. In fact I have manuals on most of the
cards that William mentioned, and I've emailed William accordingly. As
Randy posted, it looks to me like there is not much left of the Altair,
in the Altair! The SD System stuff probably ran the CP/M or SDOS system
on those disks with that system. It would be reasonable, in fact, to get
*another* S-100 box and put those SD System cards in THAT; and to see
about rebuilding the remaining, actual MITS cards and the MITS chassis
seperately. The MITS might need a very old memory card to work with that
8080 processor and front panel, due to some bus differences.
But it's all in what the new owner wants to do and what resources he
obtains to do so.
Herb JOhnson
Herbert R. Johnson, voice 609-771-1503, New Jersey USA
<a href="http://retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff"> web site</a>
<a href="http://retrotechnology.net/herbs_stuff"> domain mirror</a>
**MY "njcc.com" site & email is EXPIRED **
my email address: herbjohnson ATT comcast DOTT net
if no reply, wait & try: hjohnson AAT retrotechnology DOTT com
"Herb's Stuff": old Mac, SGI, 8-inch floppy drives
S-100 IMSAI Altair computers, docs, by "Dr. S-100"
--
Herbert R. Johnson, voice 609-771-1503, New Jersey USA
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S-100 IMSAI Altair computers, docs, by "Dr. S-100"
----------Original Message-----------
....Has anyone ever tried to use the PCjr wireless keyboard on a modern
system? Any recommendations?
Thanks.
Rich
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There is a Serial Port IR receiver on the mini-ITX hardware page; looks
like the LIRC without the regulator.
BTW: if you or anyone else (except Cameron - I know what he'd do with it!)
needs or wants one, I've got a PCjr keyboard (the one with "real" keys),
NOS/IB; $10+S
mike
mhstein at canada dot com
