On Aug 30 2004, 23:15, Tony Duell wrote:
> > But something was nagging at me and I went and looked at the
prints.
> >
> > The DEC DLV11-J, a 4 port unbuffered SLU had a clock I/O pin on
it's Berg
> > connector.
> > It could output the 16x internal baud clock on that pin to drive a
terminal,
> > or accept a 16x external clock from a terminal, for each UART.
>
> That pin was commonly used with a DEC current loop converter module,
the
> number of which I forget (DLV11-K ???). That box plugged into the
DLV11-J
> at one side and had an 8 pin Mate-n-lock on the other to connect to a
> standard DEC current loop cable. It also included a 110 baud (1760Hz)
> generator, since the DLV11 couldn't do 110 baud as standard and the
most
> common reason for wanting a current loop interface was to connect to
an
> ASR33.
Yes, it's a DLV11-K, and is also why the DLV11-J has 12V supplied on
one of the connector pins. I've got one here.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Anybody want an Imagen IP/II print controller (less power supply)? These are
the multibus systems with a floppy that drove 300 dpi Cannon engines.
Dan Lanciani
ddl(a)danlan.*com
Howdy!
I recently acquired a DEC MicroVAX 4000-300 and I want to connect it up
to an old PC that I can use as a dumb terminal. Unfortunately, I lack a
proper null modem cable, but I have a nice length of phone cable (it's
the same connector pretty much, if you sand down the clip, right?) and
a nice length of serial cable with connectors on each end. My question
is, is it possible to jury rig these two pieces of cable, so that I can
have my VAX up and running for at least a single user (Ethernet will
come later! ;) ). If so, what lines should I cross (pin numbers would
be nice :).
Thanks.
Phil.
Lyle Bickley <lbickley(a)bickleywest.com> wrote:
|I'll second that.
|
|Lyle
|
|On Monday 30 August 2004 12:49, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
|> On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Dan Lanciani wrote:
|> > I've come up with a way to read Heath hard-sectored disks with a
|> > 1797-style controller (with some modifications). I've now archived all
|> > of my old disks with only one unrecoverable error in an unused sector
|> > (not bad for media that is approaching 30 years in age). I do seem to
|> > have run through *drives* at an alarming rate, though I hope that the
|> > cleaning disks I have on order will restore some of them. Is anyone
|> > interested in:
|> >
|> > -Technical details (the method should work for many non-standard FM
|> > formats)?
|>
|> Hi Dan.
|>
|> By all means, please post some technical details.
My plan was to read a track at a time in MFM mode to get both the clock
and data bits which I could decode in software. The first problem was
the index holes. I disconnected the index signal from the drive and
routed the 1797's index input to a bit on an i/o port. (I was doing this
on an H100 so I used the manual precomp line.) With index under software
control I could create a fake hole, read as many bytes of data as I wanted,
and the create another fake hole to terminate the command.
The next problem was clock/data synchronization. Even in MFM mode the
1797 exposes only 8 bits (that is, every other bit) of its 16-bit data
shift register to the cpu. Normally a special pattern with missing clock
pulses synchronizes the register to the bit stream, but of course there
is no such special pattern when reading FM data as MFM. I had initially
hoped that there would be enough random variation such that a few attempts
at reading any given track would result in at least one instance where the
data was in the desired position. Unfortunately, the reading process turned
out to be pretty much deterministic and if a particular run of bits was out
of phase once it was likely to remain so.
To solve the bit synchronization problem I intercepted the raw data input
to the 1797 and delayed each pulse by 2 microseconds with half of a 74123,
using the other half to produce a pulse of similar length to the original
(not that the latter is critical). I then diode-or'ed the delayed bit
stream with the original and fed the result to the 1797's raw data input.
This guarantees that regardless of the clock/data bit phase relationship
to the data shift register, all the bits are available to the CPU. Because
the 1797 uses an external clock recovery circuit the timing of my delayed
pulses does not interfere with accurate clock tracking.
With the raw bits in memory I apply a simple algorithm to separate clock
and data. I examine a bit. If it is a 0 it must be data and I shift it
to the output buffer. If it is 1 I drop it and shift the next bit to the
output buffer whether it is a 0 or a 1.
With the data bits in memory I simply mimic the H17's normal operation by
searching from sync bytes and accumulating bytes thereafter. Note that
the bits in a byte for the H17 are reversed from most other disk formats.
Dan Lanciani
ddl(a)danlan.*com
I have two identical 72pin memory SIMMS out of an HP workstation. One is
damaged by having a single 3pin SMD component physically destroyed, with
only the leads remaining. The second is complete and functional. The
damaged component's reference designation is CR5, so I am thinking it is
a rectifier and not a transistor. The black plastic SOT-23 package is
marked with 5A followed by a K rotated 90deg counter-clockwise.
Any suggestions on how to identify the part? Is there a pointer
somewhere to how SMD components are marked?
-chuck
Hi Sellam
Of course, I'd love to have the 5110 but I have no idea
how much to offer for such a machine.
Dwight
>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
>
>
>Let the frenzy commence!
>
>On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Sharon Hamrick wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Found your site searching on Yahoo for IBM 5110 or 5120.
>>
>> We have some equipment for sale maybe you might be interested in:
>>
>> 1 5120, IBM model 5110/3, 8" floppy drive, BASIC
>>
>> 1 5120 IBM model 5110/?, 8" floppy, BASIC/APL
>>
>> 1 5110 IBM model 5110A, internal tape drive, BASIC/APL
>>
>> 1 5114 IBM disk drive, 2 8" floppy drives
>>
>> 2 5103 printers
>>
>> We are an accounting firm who used these computers a very long time ago. We
are moving this month, these have been in our office in storage and I would like
to sell these if possible.
>>
>> If you are interested and would like any more detail, please contact us and I
will try to provide any information needed. Some of this equipment worked when
we quit using this but I do not know the condition since it has not been in use
in many years.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Sharon Hamrick
>>
>
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>
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>
I have a 3100-40 which has a 4Gb drive as a boot drive. The model 40 is
SUPPOSED to be the same as the 30, but different case, expansion, etc.
The model 30 memory certainly works in the 40. I seem to recall it is
more an issue of age of firmware. I just asked a computer parts place
I do business with about my model 30 and they said a 4Gb drive is the
biggest that will work in it. Didn't try it though, just went to the
model 40 (needed the space for more drives).
Joe Heck
I'm posting on behalf of Marion....
> --------------------------------------------
>
> CALLING NH/VT COLLECTORS:
>
> There's a nonprofit organization called WinCycle in Windsor, Vermont
> that receives all of a local university's unwanted computer equipment,
> which they then fix up and sell or donate to people and schools who
> can't afford new machines. I've been volunteering there weekly for a
> few months and it's really quite an operation.
>
> This has been a rough year -- burglaries, management upheavals, rising
> costs -- and to top it off, they just found out that they have to
> vacate their corner of the warehouse by the end of September, because
> the warehouse owner found a tenant who wants the entire building, and
> the rental agreement is only month-to-month. We've got to start moving
> stuff out of there and into another building just down the street,
> pronto, and the new building is less than half the space we have now.
>
> To get an idea of what we're dealing with, take a look at this:
> http://www.wincycle.org/images/wc-panorama.jpg
>
> Anything that isn't considered saleable (i.e., new enough to surf the
> web and run MS Office) will be scrapped if someone doesn't take it at
> scrap cost (25 cents a pound?) and some will simply be given away with
> the request that you make a donation of whatever you can. There are
> tons and TONS of perfectly-intact but old machines that need a home!
> I've taken home nearly fifty old Macs but I can't store any more.
> There's PC hardware too, and printers, monitors, keyboards, mice, hard
> drives, networking gear, software, manuals, peripherals, other internal
> and external parts, enough SCSI cables to circle the Earth, etc.
>
> Please forward this to anyone within driving distance that you can
> think might be interested. Parents, please ask your schools if they
> need bulk quantities of stuff; we can most likely deliver locally, if
> needed. Any other institutions or organizations (churches, charities,
> etc.) you can think of that might be interested in loading up in bulk,
> please tell them to contact us -- they can email Tim Cary
> <caryconsulting(a)direcway.com> or me.
>
> More general info about WinCycle here: http://www.wincycle.org but the
> price list is basically null and void at this point because of our
> desperate situation. If you need further info than what's on the
> website, please email mbates(a)whoopis.com -- do NOT reply to the list, I
> won't get your message.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- MB
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A San Francisco Bay Area scrapper has the following DEC gear about to be
scrapped. I've looked at it - and most of it is very clean.
I'll reply with his name and email address if you let me know you are
interested.
I have no business interest in this transaction.
Dec 5500 system
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Ra90 drive missing
H7142 power supply
TK70 drive
H7868-A REV E03 POWER SUPPLY
M9404-PA
KDA 50/M7165-00
KDA 50/M7164-00
TQK70/M7559-00
CXY08-M/M3119-YA
DELQA-SA/M7516-PA
KS220-AA/M7639-AP
M7639-AF
M7637
KN220/M7638
H7868-A DO1
DEC 9644
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Ra90 drive missing
H7142 POWER SUPPLY
H7868-A
M9060-YA
KDA 50/M7165-00
KDA 50/M7164-00
CXY08-M/M3119-YA
M9405-PA
H7868-A
Vax 3600
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RA82
H7660C
TK70
H7868-A Rev c
KDA50/M7164-00
KDA50/M7165-00
EMULEX UC08 ASSY NO. UC0810201-04 REVR
CXY08-M/M3119-YA REV D03
TQK70/M77559-00
DELQA-SA/M7516-PA
MS650-AA/M7621-A
MS650-AA/M7621-A
MS650-AA/M7621-A
MS650-AA/M7620-AA
H7868-A REV C
4-RA92
2-RA90
DEC 5500 220-QH-D9 BA400, KN220
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NO DRIVES
KDA50/M7165-00
KDA50/M7164-00
MS220-BA/M7639 REV A2
KN220/M7637 F4
KN220/M7638 F4
H7874-00
VAX 4000/500
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KA670-AA REV C3
MS670 REV A
ACTUAL BOARDS UNDER ABOVE MARKED PANELS:
L4002 BA
L4004 CT
L4004 CP
H7874-00 B03
Dec Storage Exp. Model SZ12 A-LA , BA42A, RZ55/RX23
Dec Storage Exp. Model SZ12N-B-XA, BA42A, RZ56
Dec Storage Exp. Model SZ12 C-CA, BA42A, RZ57/RZ57
Dec Storage Exp. Model SZ12 C-CA, BA42A, RZ57/RZ57
Dec Storage Exp. Model RZ5X-MT, BA42A, NO DRIVES
Dec Storage Exp. Model SZ12 B-HA, RZ56/TZ30
Dec Storage Exp. Model SZ12 C-CA, BA42A, RZ57/RZ57
Dec Storage Exp. Model SZ12N-XA,BA42A, ?
Dec Storage Exp. Model SZ12C-CA, BA42A, RZ57/RZ57
TK50Z-GA
RZ55-FA
VAXSTATION 3100 M76 MODEL VS43A-BD
VAXSTATION 3100 M76 MODEL VS43A-CZ
VAXSTATION 3100 M76 MODELVS43A-BD
VAXSTATION 3100 M38 MODEL WS42A-DA
VAXSTATION 3100 M38 MODEL WS42A-DA
VAXSTATION 4000 60 MODEL VS46K-AB CPU KA46,ZZF HF00005B
VAXSTATION 4000 60 MODEL VS46K-AD CPU KA46, ZZF 00005B,
CD-ROM INSTALLED
VAX 4000-200 RACKMOUNT 660QK-A9, BA400 CPU MOD KA660
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DRV1W-SA/M7651-PA
KWV11-SA/M4002-PA P/N 30-18690-01(ML01338 BARCODE)
KW11-SA/M4002-PA B1 WITH COAX CONNECTOR
CXY08-M/M3119-YA REV D09
DELQA-SA/M7516-PA C03 (NO FUSE INTALLED MISSING FUSE CAP)
CLEARPOINT CPCB-0053 REV D DCME-M30
CLEARPOINT CPCB-0053 REV D DCME-M30
PANEL SAYS MS650-BA/M7622-A A01
PANEL SAYS KA650/M7626-AA C03
UNDERNEATH ABOVE PANELS:
M7626-AA C05
715AA
H7874-00 B03 POWER SUPPLY
TK70
RF22 70-25972-01 A01
RF73-EA A01, 70-28814-01 B03,(54-19119-01 A09)
OTHER ITEMS
RRD40 EXTERNAL CDROM
MODEL SC008-AB A 70-18771 REV A
MODEL SC008-AB B
VSXXX AB DIGIPAD WITH PUCK
DEC 3000 -500HY7883-YA REV C06 NO DRIVES
MODEL PE50A-A9
CPU KN15
DRIVE R226E
DEC 3000 -? NO LABLE LOOKS NJUST LIKE OTHER DEC 3000
1-DAT DRIVE
CD-ROM
RZ26-E
TWO OTHER UNKNOWN 3 ? ? DRIVES
Lyle
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Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"