> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave Brown
> Sent: 05 August 2004 09:35
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Sord M5
>
>
> Anyone else have one of these? Seems to need a cartridge to
> run. I have a basic language cartridge for it- (labelled
> Falcon) and a Sord Basic G cart manual. So I'm looking for
> any info, software, other carts, etc. If anyone's interested,
> there's pix of the M5 on a few web sites and summary data as well.
I've got the european version which was badged by CGL and made in a blue
case instead of brown. You need either the BASIC-I (integer) or BASIC-G
(graphics) cart before you can do anything else. I've only got a small
amount of s/w for it though, maybe 3 tapes and a single lonely 'tank
battle' cart that was given to me at the Classic Gaming Expo the other
week.
http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/Museum/Sord/sord.php
Cheers
--
adrian/witchy
owner & curator, Binary Dinosaurs - the UK's biggest online home
computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the Museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - former gothic shenanigans
www.aaghverts.co.uk - the place to whinge at adverts!
Hi
If you guys are intending to build a Z8000 machine to
run CP/M-8000, you should let me know. There are a couple
hardware restrictions you should know about early on.
Dwight
>From: "Kane, David (DPS)" <David.Kane(a)aph.gov.au>
>
>The Z8000 segmented address scheme has two forms. The long form that you
>described uses two 16 bit values (registers or memory locations). The
>short form uses a single 16 bit value with the 7 bit segment number in
>bits 9-15 and an 8 bit offset into the segment in bits 1-8. Bit 16 of
>the first 16 bit value is a flag which indicates long or short segment
>address. This is important for memory addresses operands as the CPU can
>get an address word operand from memory, and then based on the flag bit
>can decide if the next word must be read to get the complete long
>address. In either case the segment address is located in the same place
>in either a short segment address or the first word of a long segmented
>address.
>
>David
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
>> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of SHAUN RIPLEY
>> Sent: Monday, 26 July 2004 1:27 PM
>> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>> Subject: z8000 segment scheme question
>>
>>
>> I picked up one of my computer books today and read
>> that z8000 uses one 16 bit register to hold the 7 bit
>> segment number and one register to hold the 16 bit
>> offset. The strange thing is that the segment number
>> is hold in position of bit 9-14 other than the bottom
>> half of the first register. I goggled and found
>> complaint about this scheme but no one explained why
>> it was designed so. Could somebody on the list tell me why?
>>
>>
>>
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Jay West wrote:
> If you're dealing with gold contacts....
Nope :-( The OSI fatherboard pins and the card connectors are
silver(tin?) with nylon. But, Caig makes DeoxIT too, so that's
a "sort of" vote in favor of it.
Thanks,
Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Johnston
> Sent: 05 August 2004 17:08
> To: General(a)dmzms01.aramiska.net; On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: Metal Case Northstar Horizon
>
>
>
> Actually, it would be nice to have pictures of all three
> Northstar chassis styles. Right now, mine are all buried and
> I won't get a chance to get near them for another month or
> so. But I'll keep my eyes open for one of the beige ones now :).
I'm back at bletchley at the weekend so I'll do some proper pictures;
I'm sure there's more than one 'cos I remember seeing a box for them
(WOW*RARE*L@@K BOXED!!!11)
In common with pretty much all of the stuff in 'storage' they're not in
the best condition, principally down to where they're being stored :-\
Cheers
--
adrian/witchy
owner & curator, Binary Dinosaurs - the UK's biggest online home
computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the Museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - former gothic shenanigans
www.aaghverts.co.uk - the place to whinge at adverts!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of lists(a)microvax.org
> Sent: 05 August 2004 10:09
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: Gaps in the collection
>
>
> > I fact let's start a thread of what items people feel are
> missing from
> > their collections, Here's mine... (No, I am not asking for
> any of these...)
>
> I would kill for a VAX 6000 in the UK. Mmmmm... *dribble*
:D I walk past a 6000-410 every time I go upstairs here, and there's a
7000 just round the corner in stores. They're both backup machines for a
customer though so you can't have 'em.
> I'm still a student though, so i've not got a permanent base
> to keep one at. And I thought a uV-II in a BA123 was a
> bastard to heft around every end-of-academic-year...
BA23 is the way forward, though still bloody heavy.
Cheers
--
adrian/witchy
owner & curator, Binary Dinosaurs - the UK's biggest online home
computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the Museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - former gothic shenanigans
www.aaghverts.co.uk - the place to whinge at adverts!
> On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Marvin Johnston wrote:
>
> > Someone mentioned some time ago a metal case instead of the
> standard
> > case for the Northstar Horizon. Can anyone confirm if they
> did put out
> > a computer in a metal case, and if so, (wishful thinking) how many
> > they might have produced? I have one here in a powder blue
> metal case
There's at least one of the metal cased ones in 'storage' at Bletchley
Park - IMSAI blue with an (I assume) aluminium front, 2 vertical floppy
drives etc. Got a pic somewhere if anyone's interested, I can't attach
it to this mail 'cos the list software will bin it.
Cheers
--
adrian/witchy
owner & curator, Binary Dinosaurs - the UK's biggest online home
computer collection?
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the Museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - former gothic shenanigans
www.aaghverts.co.uk - the place to whinge at adverts!
Not "really" meant to be a computer, but I have a
working HP2644A (with DC100a tapes) that uses an 8008
microprocessor (the first thing HP made with an
"outside" CPU, I think). I went nuts on it and
rebuilt the moldy CRT. The only other one I know of is
at the Univ of Stuttgart museum. You can hack this
terminal into playing pong on the 8008. Classic
computers need classic peripherals - that's why I've
been working on paper tape readers.
=====
-Steve Loboyko
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"When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day."
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At 21:01 -0500 8/3/04, William Donzelli <aw288(a)osfn.org> wrote:
>Look at your machines as individuals. Where did you get each one? What
>were they used for? Do you have evidence to back up the claims?
Got a NeXT Cube from Whitelight systems in Palo Alto, CA. They were a
NeXT software developer. I still have the company label on the
monitor (which has a fault which I'll need to fix eventually) to show
that. The disk was scrubbed, though.
Unfortunately, that's about as good as it gets in my collection.
--
- Mark
210-522-6025, page 888-733-0967
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of lists(a)microvax.org
> Sent: 05 August 2004 14:09
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: RE: Gaps in the collection
>
> > 7000 just round the corner in stores. They're both backup
> machines for
> > a customer though so you can't have 'em.
>
> Bastard. Dibs! ;)
You're in the queue after me :)
> I was just chatting to Greg this morning about swapping my
> worldbox for a BA23. Sad to see it go because it's so pretty
> and noisy, but I can rack a BA23 and get some work out of it.
Why not get one of the VAXstations he got from Jules? Do you have a
requirement for a QBUS box or summat?
Cheers
a/w
>in a
>fire-safe case (yes, I realize it wouldn't help except in
>the lightest fire)
Depending on the case/safe/cabinet, it may actually help quite a bit.
They are generally rated to 1200 degrees or higher for 45 minutes or
longer. If you have a 1200 degree fire for 45 minutes, then your house is
a total loss. A fully involved room doesn't usually get to 1200 degrees
(flashover will usually happen around 600-750 degrees depending on air
and flamability of the items in the room).
However, many MANY people make the mistake of putting their fire
resistant safe in an upstairs bedroom for easy access. That will likely
cause a failure much sooner then its fire rating. Why? Because as the
structure burns, the floor weakens, and now you have a 100+ pound weight
sitting on a burned, water soaked, weak floor. It tends to break thru the
floor, and not stop falling until it hits the basement two stories down.
Usually the impact will make the casing of the safe fail and either pop
the door open, or totally destroy the outer shell. In either case, the
fire rating has been removed, and the contents will now happily burn.
Are these types of boxes/safes the best option? No, but they are better
then using a rubbermaid container or a regular file cabinet. For truely
important paperwork, a safe deposit box is probably the best option
(although they are very rarely fire rated at all, but the safes always
have fire suppression systems in them, and seal air tight, so the odds of
a fire getting very large is pretty slim).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
