>Thanks, but I don't have the required long torx screwdriver and case
>cracker
>tool, and I am a little scared to crack open the case, mean evil nasty
>high voltages live
>in there. Besides I might bust something inside and that would be bad.
Screw driver, as others have mentioned can be bought at Sears. Case
cracker you can also get at Sears. Buy a smallish spring wood clamp, then
remove the rubber protective tips. The blade tips will then fit into the
case crack, squeeze the clamp, and it pops the case open.
Or you can do the Shake and Bounce method of loosening the case... but I
don't recommend that. If you have to do a forceful method, do the light
tapping around the edges method (or just pick up the dang clamp when
buying your screwdriver!)
As for the voltages, there isn't anything readily accidentally touched
inside. The Analog Board (the one with the lethal power), is mounted in
such a way that you can't accidentally touch the inside of it. You have
to try to reach in and do it. And the back side of the board (that you
can accidentally touch) is covered with an insulating sheet, so you can
touch away and nothing will happen.
HOWEVER, removal of the logic board, so you can upgrade the RAM, can lead
you to needing to reach into the lethal zone. The board was designed to
slide about 1/2 inch and then release from one side of the cage, letting
you tip the board out and then disconnect the power, floppy, hard drive
(if there is one) and sound. However, I've yet to run into an SE that the
cables are really long enough to let you do that with any ease. It has
always been MUCH easier to reach under the CRT, and disconnect all but
the sound while the logic board is still in place in the cage. THEN
remove it from the cage and disconnect the sound.
So there is a little bit of "danger", but it isn't anything to really
worry too much about. I'd be happy to supply you with a PDF of the take
apart manual along with the SIMMs if you wanted.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Once again, I would favour takers for the whole lot, but would
consider splitting them up if no one wants all of them . . .
I can ship book rate to US addresses.
These titles are all published by |d|i|g|i|t|a|l|
Guide to DECthreads, Nov. 1996
VAX MACRO and Instruction Set Reference Manual, May 1993
OpenVMS EDT Reference Manual, May 1993
Guide to Managing Pathworks Licenses, Feb. 1995
Pathworks Ver. 5.1 Migration Guide, Aug 1994
DECwindows Motif Ver. 1.2-4 for OpenVMS Installation Guide, Apr. 1996
Pathworks for OpenVMS (NetWare) Server Admin Guide, Feb. 1995
DEC C Language Reference Manual, Nov 1995
DEC C Run-Time Library Reference Manual for OpenVMS, Nov. 1995
DEC C User's Guide for OpenVMS Systems, Nov. 1996
Asking $10 (plus postage) for the lot. If no takers, they get
turned into litterbox filler . . . .
Jeff
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"RHahm" <rhahm(a)nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> I recently aquired an HP 9133XV combination 3.5" floppy and 15M HD with an
> HPIB interface and Amigo protocol.
>
> I tried to use the drive with an HP 86B and an HP 85B computer. The floppy
> works fine but the computer will not recognize the hard drive. The HD seems
> to spin up normally.
Do you have the option 010 for your 9133XV. The HP product catalog
implies that only opt 010 works with the Series 80.
In general Series 80 computers cannot really deal with a hard drive.
They only know about floppies, and since they have only one-level
directories, there is little to be gained from large capacity hard
drives. So HP cheated. Since (at that time) hard drives were small (5
to 10 Mb), they provided special firmware on the hard drive to create 4
hard partitions, each the size of the largest floppy drive recognized
by the Series 80. So the HP 9133A 4.6 Mb hard drive is split into 4
1.2Mb volumes.
However for late Series 80 models, HP did something else as well.
An intriguing note in the HP catalog says:
> The HP 9133B and the HP9134B are single volume 9.6M byte Winchesters
> which can operate with the HP-85B or the HP-86B; they can also operate
> with an HP-86A or HP-87 when used with an 00087-15012 Electronic Disc
> ROM and ROM drawer. 9.6M byte Winchesters are supported under native
> mode.
What the ^%@#$@ does this mean? Does the Electronic Disc ROM contain code
to soft partition a 9.6Mb volume? I do have an Electronic Disc ROM for
my 87XM, but I have neither the documentation nor a suitable Winchester.
Any clues are welcome.
**vp
Hi
It is more likely that his service includes other countries
that restrict encription machines. I don't think the US restricts
looking at encription machines.
Dwight
>From: "Antonio Carlini" <a.carlini(a)ntlworld.com>
>
>> I'm in the US and have no problem looking at it??
>> Dwight
>
>They have limited resources so obviously they cannot
>implement everything over night. Stage one blocks
>and monitors people with funny foreign names ...
>you're probably stage two (that's people who
>miss smileys and so can't be that suspicious :-)).
>
>FWIW If I log on to one of the work machines that
>lives in the US I can see the auction from there
>too - so maybe Paul really is being watched :-)
>
>Antonio
>
>--
>
>---------------
>
>Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org
>
>
>
On Aug 20 2004, 9:38, bips wrote:
> I have an Exidy with S-100 and floppy drives. I have missed placed
my
> floppy
> disks. They had CP/M, an editor, assembler compiler, and utilities.
I would
> be very interested in obtaining a copy of same. My floppies were
5.25,
> single sided, 97K. John
It's good to hear from another Sorcerer owner, but unfortunately, I
don't have disks for mine, so I can't help. Sorry...
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi
From the picture I'm looking at, it has 10 wheels or rotors.
This is not a WW2 unit.
What country are you in?
Dwight
>From: "Paul Koning" <pkoning(a)equallogic.com>
>
>>>>>> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Thomas <geoffreythomas(a)onetel.com> writes:
>
> Geoffrey> Is this the real thing ?
> Geoffrey>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3284&item=22629569…
=1
>
>Bizarre. Ebay does not allow me to see that item. It says "due to
>restrictions in your home country" which is utter nonsense. It's
>possible that the UK has export restrictions, but that's not what it
>said...
>
>>>>>> "Dwight" == Dwight K Elvey <dwight.elvey(a)amd.com> writes:
>
> Dwight> Hi This is not a WW2 machine. This was made many years after
> Dwight> that. It is an Enigma design with more wheels than the ones
> Dwight> the Germans used. It is a ridiculous price for a later
> Dwight> machine, regardless of condition. It is most likely military
> Dwight> surplus but not WW2.
>
>What does it actually show? Standard Enigmas have 3 wheels, but a few
>had four, so if it's a four wheel unit it's a possibility that it
>could be a WW2 unit.
>
> paul
>
>
Hi
If you look closely, you'll notice that it has many more wheels
( rotors ) than three or four. It is a later machine.
Dwight
>From: "Jules Richardson" <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk>
>
>On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 18:57, Geoffrey Thomas wrote:
>> Is this the real thing ?
>
>Not a German Enigma, no. (e.g.:
>http://web.syr.edu/~nrsmit01/webquest/enigma.jpg), but real in the sense
>that it is an Enigma :)
>
>I can't see an equivalent to the plugboard that the German machines
>have, so it's presumably a much simpler device.
>
>German 3-rotor Enigma machines are actually pretty common, or so I'm
>told - I suppose they just normally appear in traditional auction houses
>rather than on ebay.
>
>That ebay one seems like quite a high price. I'm not sure if that's
>because it's a) Swiss rather than German, b) in extremely good condition
>or c) because it's on ebay. I suspect the latter...
>
>cheers
>
>Jules
>
>
Hi
This is not a WW2 machine. This was made many years
after that. It is an Enigma design with more wheels
than the ones the Germans used. It is a ridiculous
price for a later machine, regardless of condition.
It is most likely military surplus but not WW2.
Dwight
>From: "Geoffrey Thomas" <geoffreythomas(a)onetel.com>
>
>Is this the real thing ?
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3284&item=226295693
>8&rd=1
>
>Anyone with deep pockets ?
>
>Geoff.
>
>
>Perhaps the danger is not as bas as I make it out to be, but, and I
>know you probably
>did not know this, I am jobless right now.. If I do break anything I
>can't afford to
>replace it. That and the fact that the machine seems to run really
>well on OS 6
>and I have found many fun things on the net that also run on OS6.
I fully understand your reluctance. I can say that if you decide to try
it, and you break something, it should be fairly trivial to track down
another SE for free (I for one have a half dozen I don't need, and I'm
sure Sellam has a half dozen pallets of them!)
But I still understand.
>I'll try installing the OS7 I'll be getting soon - but perhaps it won't
>work, so
>back to OS 6. no problem.
OS 7 will probably not even boot with only 2 MB of ram. I think the
MINIMUM you will get it to boot with is 2.5 (which you may actually have,
it was very common to go to 2.5 instead of 2, because you just left two
of the 256k simms in place when adding two 1 MB ones). However, even at
2.5 MB, System 7 will be almost unusable. 4 MB really is the minimum you
can get away with.
But honestly, if you can find fun things to do with System 6 (and there
are tons), then stick with it. It will run MUCH faster, and be MUCH more
stable on an SE then System 7 will be no matter how much RAM you can cram
in there.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>I do have the 1.44 built in diskette drive.
>
>Did the APPLE II 3.5 work with this machine too? I have heard that
>if you plug in the 5.25 you will burn out your floppy controller.
The 1.44 drive will read and write Apple ProDos 3.5" floppies.
As for plugging in an Apple II drive into the floppy port on the Mac,
don't do it unless you are sure the drive is one compatible with the mac.
Most of the A2 drives were not, even though they had the same connector.
They could damage the Mac. There were however some that were compatible
with the Mac. I know there was a 3.5" drive that worked with the Mac or
the A2, and I think there may have also been a 5.25" drive that worked
with both (not counting the one for the A2e card that plugged into the
card's adaptor cable).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
