test-drb July 2004

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by mouse＠Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA

I recently came into possession of a relatively large pile of on-topic stuff, and have some of my own that I want to get rid of. I haven't completed inventorying it all yet - there are a half-dozen boxes I've yet to look through - but it's slow enough going that I'm sending around a list of what I have inventoried in case anyone is interested. When I get the rest gone through I'll post another list. This stuff is all "cover shipping from Montreal and it's yours". That includes free if picked up - drop me a line to arrange such. Feel free to ask questions if you want more information about anything. Except as noted, everything is untested; some items I can test if desired - again, drop me a line. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B The list, mostly in no particular order: TI Programmable 57 pocket calculator, including wall-wart, carrying case, and "Making Tracks Into Programming" manual. Battery pack included but will not charge enough to power the calculator even for seconds. Red filter over display has come loose but is present. Worked as of a month or two ago, when powered with wall-wart. Some keys occasionally act a little flaky. I bought this new on 1981-01-26 and still have the receipt. Numerous (ca. 20-30) cables, 25-pair POTS-quality wire. One end has Centronics-50 connector; the other is loose wire ends. Length is some small numbers of metres - about right for cross-connect within a wiring closet. A rackmount panel with 64 eight-conductor RJ45-style jacks on the front; on the back, each four jacks are wired to a Centronics-50 connector. A C-50 gender-bender is attached to each. Note these are NOT Cat-V, probably not even Cat-III - they look intended for POTS use, or perhaps serial lines, to my eye. A rackmount power switch/filter of some kind. It has a mains cable (which is cut off near the box), a space where a switch has been removed, and five outlets (two "filtered" and three "unfiltered") of the sort you find on some computers to feed switched power to another box - the same connector you find on the computer end of most computer mains cords. The metal box has a corner twisted and torn; it either suffered a peculiar accident or was attacked by someone who wanted to get into it but couldn't be bothered to remove the screws. Inkjet cartridge refilling equipment (syringe, hole-maker, small bottle of black ink). Old Sun-2-era external disk enclosure, ca. 1'x1'x4". Two DD50F SCSI connectors and mains power connector. Contains power supply, Micropolis 1325 drive, adapter board between SCSI and the drive, and internal cabling to hook it all together. EMP "Manual Mini Modem MM-102". Not acoustic-coupler, but almost that old; has answer/off/originate switch, power-on and carrier-detect lights. Includes wall-wart thought, but not tested, to go with it. Captive telco cable ending in RJ11 plug; also has RJ11 "TELE JACK" connector and DB25F connector for host. Ten Cabletron TPT-2 AUI-to-UTP transceivers. These predate the current 10baseT standard for link test; they do not reliably detect link when connected to (some) modern equipment, but at least two of them work fine when connected to one another with a crossed cable. There presumably exists 10baseT equipment they work with; as far as I know I have none. Hayes Smartmodem 2400. In original package, including styrofoam packing, box, manuals, business-reply cards, wall-wart. Box has some cosmetic damage - scuffs, small rips - but is basically intact; the styrofoam has basically no damage and the modem's cosmetic condition verges on pristine. Packard Bell PB2400PLUS modem. Includes wall-wart, manuals, 5?" floppy still in sealed envelope, styrofoam packing, but not surrounding box. S-100 (I think) board from Cromemco, labeled "8K BYTESAVER" with eight 24-pin DIP sockets. It includes a switch labeled "PROGRAM POWER" and a 7812, so I assume it is a PROM reader/burner. S-100 (I think) board. It looks like a memory board; it is marked "S100" and "10032-B" and includes a 4x16 array of 18-pin DIP sockets, all empty. It has 32 ceramic disc capacitors, presumably for power-supply decoupling; two are physically damaged to the point where I would not trust them to remain unshorted without testing. SPARCstation 2 mainboard. The CPU has been replaced with a Weitek POWER?P. No RAM. This board does not work; my best guess is that the fault is in the CPU. An ISA card from "ARCHIVE CORPORATION". Back-panel interface is a DB25F, with a 50-pin header just behind this. Marked "ASSY 80530-151" and "REV A"; the "151" and "REV A" are stamped, the "ASSY" and "80530-" are silkscreened. A MITEL SMART-1, whatever that is. It's marked "PAV Chaining" and "Positive Account Code Verification With Chaining". The interfaces are: a peculiar 3-pin power connector; a jack which is physically RJ45-compatible; and a DB25F. I suspect the jack is actually for POTS, since the device is marked with Canadian telco regulatory foo. The matching power supply is included. Two cables from Centronics-50 to DA15, with handwritten tags saying things like "PBX<->NAV" "PRI #1". An octopus cable from a DE9F to three DB25Ms. The DB25Ms have only some pins present: 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 20 on two connectors, the third the same except lacking pin 6. Six DE9M-to-DE9F video cables from the Sun-3 days, when they used monochrome monitors with DE9 connectors. Three co-ax cables with BNC connectors on the ends; one marked with masking tape and marker G, one B, and the third (apparently identical otherwise) unmarked. Eight NeXT video cables - the 19-pin D-shell kind. Seven are about a foot and a half long, the other more like nine or ten feet. A PC case. Contains practically nothing - internal wiring for the front-panel switches is about it. No power supply or mobo. Two Sun-3/60 cases, with power supplies but no machines or plastic cosmetic covers - just the metal boxes with the power supplies. Various books: Introduction to the AMIGA 2000 AMIGA BASIC The AmigaDOS Manual (two copies) AMIGA Hardware Reference Manual AMIGA ROM Kernel Reference Manual: Exec AMIGA ROM Kernel Reference Manual: Libraries and Devices AMIGA Intuition Referenec Manual Inside AegisDRAW Amiga Programmer's HANDBOOK INSIDE AMIGA Graphics COMPUTE!'s AMIGA PROGRAMMER'S GUIDE A?TALK III Inside the Amiga Programmer's Guide to the Amiga Advanced Amiga BASIC Amiga 3D Graphic Programming in BASIC Secrets of the COMMODORE 64 Commodore 64/128 Assembly Language Programming 35 AMAZING GAMES For Your Commodore 64 LEARN TO PROGRAM THE COMMODORE 64 ALL BY YOURSELF! (course notes) COMMODORE 64 PROGRAMMER'S REFERENCE GUIDE MAPPING THE Commodore 64 C64 user's manual MASTERING SIGHT AND SOUND ON THE COMMODORE 64 COMMODORE 64 USER'S GUIDE COMMODORE 64 GRAPHICS Your Commodore 64 TROUBLESHOOTING & REPAIRING YOUR COMMODORE 64 A whole boxful of 3?" floppies, I think for an Amiga. (This is a largeish box, maybe 1'x1?'x6", not just a floppy-storage box.) Sun books and media: Solaris 2.2 System Configuration and Installation Guide Solaris 2.0 System Configuration and Installation Guide Solaris 2.4 Introduction Solaris 2.4 System AnswerBook CD (package still sealed) WABI 2.0 for Solaris 2 CD (package still sealed) Solaris Quick Start Guide (801-6612-10; Rev A, August 1994) Solaris 2.4: Latest News (still sealed in shrinkwrap) Software and AnswerBook Packages Administration Guide (Solaris 2.4) SPARC: Installing Solaris Software (Solaris 2.4) SPARCompiler C User's Guide (Version 3.0.1 for Solaris) A few light-cardboard four-colour-glossies. A three-ring binder marked "SunOS 4.1 Release & Install"; it appears to contain exactly that. The plastic piece that tries to keep the pages from ripping is split across, but both pieces are present. A package marked "NetWorker for Solaris 4.0.2" and "Online: DiskSuite 3.0". It contains a CD jewel case marked "NetWorker for Solaris", still shrinkwrapped; stapled pages marked "Networker for Solaris Single Server 4.0.2 Release Notes"; stapled pages marked "Online: DiskSuite 3.0 Release Notes"; and an envelope marked "NetWorker for Solaris Enabler Certificate Enclosed", seal still intact. "Binary Code License" - EULA for something from Sun. Doesn't say what it applies to specifically, just "the accompanying software". It may or may not have originally accompanied one or more of the CDs above. Sun SPARCstation 1 doc box, containing SPARCstation 1 Installation Guide SPARCstation 1 Sun System User's Guide Computers of the C=64/TI99 era (post-8008 pre-IBMPC), and related stuff. When something is "supposedly" for use with a given machine, this means that it was so marked by the person I got this stuff from, but I haven't tried it myself. Interact Integrated keyboard and cassette tape Apparently designed for TV output; captive output co-ax cable Captive power cable to wall-wart (North American plug) Connectors: DB25F and two DE9Ms Back has sticker saying INTERACT ELECTRONICS, INC. MODEL NO. ONE FCC TYPE APPROVAL NUMBER, TV-579 MANUFACTURER, INTERACT ELECTRONICS, INC. SERIAL NUMBER, 0 1 4 5 7 5 VALID ONLY WHEN OPERATED PURSUANT TO F.C.C. RULES, PART 15 Fragments apparently constituting most of another Interact (keyboard, cassette mechanism, wall-wart, main board with two empty IC sockets, one probably the CPU). Amiga 2000. Includes keyboard and mouse but no display. (See also Amiga stuff above.) Includes some six to eight inches of paper which appears to be printouts and doc photocopies for Atari stuff. TI-99/4A ("TEXAS INSTRUMENTS HOME COMPUTER"). In what appears to be the original packaging, with power supply and TV video modulator. Commodore 64, in what appears to be the original box, with power supply, TV video monulator, a couple of other cables, a spare keyboard(!), and an antistatic bag which supposedly contains chips pulled from another C64. Laser 128, in the original box (which claims it's Apple IIe/IIc compatible but has "everything" already built in). A Commodore "Single Drive Floppy Disk", model 1541 - an external 5?" floppy drive, supposedly for the C64. Nine joysticks, supposedly for the C64. A "64modem", presumably a modem for the C64. (Connectors and markings are consistent with that theory.) A "B.I. printer interface", supposedly for the C64. A VOLKS 6480 modem (1200/300 BPS, autodial/autoanswer, for the C64 and C128, if the box is to be believed). An obviously homebrew (and rather carelessly built) reset button attachment, supposedly for the C64. A "Forth 64" cartridge, from "handic software ab", presumably (and supposedly) for the C64. A C64 three-in-one card. This has three card-edge connectors and a three-position switch, and a single card edge to plug into a C64. Presumably it's so you can leave three things physically connected all the time and switch which one is logically connected with the switch, instead of constantly swapping modules. Bears the name "NAVARONE". A C64 four-in-one card. This has four card-edge connectors and a single card edge to plug into a C64. There is also an enable switch next to each socket, a reset button, and a fuse. Bears the name APROTEK. Comes with a slip of paper which is akin to a user's manual and a piece of ribbon cable with a card edge on one end and a card-edge connector on the other. The conductor count and inter-connector spacing are different from those on the gadget itself. Two cables, about five feet long, with a peculiar DIN-shell four-conductor connector on one end and bare wire ends on the other. Pin placement on the connector is identical on both cables. Something in a box which is hand-marked "Pow. Sup. C64 Repairable". The device is marked "INPUT 117VAC 60HZ" "OUTPUT 5VDC-1.8A 9VAC9VA". Included is a sheet with something that could reasonably be a schematic for such a power supply, though I haven't opened the device to check whether it matches the schematic. It has two cords, one to a North American mains plug, the other to a 7-pin DIN-shell connector. A "PROTECTO BIG BLUE PRINTER INTERFACE", in a box hand-marked with the Commodore name. A good deal of paper, including such things as documentation in French for NetNorth/BITNET and a number of pages torn from magazines containing computer-related articles, and documentation for a number of games. It wouldn't surprise me to find a floppy or two amid them; I didn't go through them in detail.

20 years, 1 month

HP hardware available and wanted list

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

HP 2109E cpu (21MX/E), chassis, power supply, front panel HP 2113E cpu (21MX/E), chassis, power supply, front panel HP 2108M cpu (21MX/M), chassis, power supply, front panel The 2109 and 2113 are available immediately. The 2108 I will get rid of eventually, just not sure if I'll get rid of it now or in about 6 months. All are untested and dirty. The 2109 and 2113 will clean up nicely. The 2108 is a hard luck case and a major restoration job. The 2109 and 2113 have cpu keys, but someone glued them in or they are stuck. The key works fine, you just can't take the key out. The 2108 has no key. I will test and clean them first if I get a chance. No I/O or memory cards included. Some memory and/or I/O cards will probably be available from me at a later date. I will also have some as yet undetermined quantity of HSFCA memory boards available (not usable as main memory, just ECC) Also available - HP 21MX 12979A rackmount I/O expansion unit Items I'm looking for... HP 12920/12921/12922 three PCA Multiplexor set HP 2102E high speed memory controller PCA qty 2 HP 13210A disc interface PCA for spare HP 12597A 8 bit duplex register boards qty 2 HP 12531C or D HS terminal or Buffered TTY PCA (qty 1 or 2) HP Blank PROMS for 21MX loader roms HP Blank PROMS for 21MX microcode roms DSI 2400 paper tape reader/punch OR... ... RS232 interface board for Facit 4070 Data General 6030/6031 8" floppy drive Data General Paper Tape reader, don't know the model number, for Nova and Eclipse Any spare Data General Nova/Eclipse boards (Nova 3, Eclipse S/130 or S/200), primarily cpu sets, disk, cassette, memory Data General 6045 disc drive DEC H212 8K core memory plane for 8E DEC M7891-D 128KW for 11/45 (qty 2) Microdata M1600, M2000, or Reality Royale system Honeywell DPS-6 system Jay West PS - Bob, now that I've been using the 21MX front panel for a while, I gotta tell ya, I prefer using the 2100 front panel. What's this "store" button crap? *GRIN* --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

20 years, 1 month

R3K SGI Indigo & installing IRIX 5.3

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Blah! OK, the Indigo doesn't like my old Apple SCSI CDROM drive, even though the Indy and my Sun Ultra 1 do... luckily I had a spare quad-speed drive which has a sector-size jumper on the back. (So it wasn't a bad SCSI cable or a problem with the Indigo's external SCSI connector as it turns out) Anyway, I'm just trying to get IRIX 5.3 from CD onto a disk in the Indigo (one which currently has a mangled copy of 5.3 on it). I've used the same CD to install 5.3 on the Indy previously - just not tried it with the Indigo... If I go view the PROM monitor and select "Install System Software", then use the CDROM as the source device, it copies the installation program to disk, says complete, but then dies with: "Unable to load dksc(0,1,1)unix.IP12: file not found" I seem to recall the Indy doing the same thing, which I think was a disk partition problem (as in that case I was installing onto a drive that had previously been in a PC) So, I restarted at this time went into the PROM monitor's command monitor and did: "boot -f dksc(0,6,8)sashARCS dksc(0,6,7)stand/fx.ARCS" ... which was what I used for the Indy to partition the drive. On the Indigo it just blows up with: 72912 NESTED EXCEPTION at pc: bfc11d90, first exception at bfc11d90 Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Given that the Indigo's an R3K and the Indy is an R4K, do I need a different boot command to load the relevant R3K software? I know this Indigo works - but the release of 5.3 is a copied version that came with the Indy... maybe it's missing something I need, or maybe SGI did different 5.3 releases for R3K and R4K machines? cheers Jules

20 years, 1 month

XTerms + DEC stuff + misc available (Cambridge, UK)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

I'm aware of the following up for disposal (I think they're off to landfill at the end of next week by the sounds of it) in Cambridge, if anyone's interested: 17 HP Xterminals 5 HP 700RX (Xterminals) 3 Vaxstation 3100 4 Large SCSI boxes 4 Medium SCSI boxes 6 BBC Bs 16 BBC type monitors 4 NCD Xterms 1 HP Entria Xterm 8 Dot matrix printers 1 DEC 3000 1 Sparc 4 1 Extremely spiky thing 1 Olivetti drive of some description 1 huge monitor box of cables Lots of random software I should be meeting with the chap tomorrow as I'm picking up some other stuff from him, so hopefully I can look over everything. I *may* grab the software and cable boxes just so I can take a proper inventory, although I have no desire to hang onto anything other than a SCSI cable or two. Note 1: this is the *UK* Cambridge (I always put that in the subject, and people always miss it :-) Note 2: various people know about this stuff, so it's a case of first come, first served. I can put you in touch with the chap if there is anything you want from the list. ps. I too am curious to know what the spiky thing is! cheers Jules

20 years, 1 month

creating CDs for use with SGI systems

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 4, 12:35, Jules Richardson wrote: > > I need to create a CD with files on for access by an SGI system. Of > course, the SGI uses a CDROM drive that uses 512 byte blocks. My desktop > PC's the only thing with a CD burner in it, which is naturally set to a > block size of 2048. > > >From the point of view of creating a CD, does this matter? Or is the > block size issue only to do with transferring data from the CD unit to > the host, and iso9660 is the same on both platforms? No, it doesn't matter. The block size is just a matter of how the data is transferred between host and drive, and cdrecord or whatever will write 2048-byte physical blocks no matter what. The drive that eventually reads the CD back will de-block them as required. It's a bit like CP/M, if you've come across CP/M's idea of 128-byte logical sectors mapped onto whatever physical sector size (commonly 256 or 512 bytes for 5.25" floppies) the sytem uses. But you should be making EFS CDs for IRIX ;-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

20 years, 1 month

ARCnet ROMs

by bmachacek＠pcisys.net

I just acquired a number of Arcnet Boot ROMs. I have no idea if these are of any value and/or interest to anyone here, but thought I'd post this information. Please let me know if you have any interest in any or all of these. Specifics are: "Arcnet, 120A, Netware, Boot ROM, S/N: EG 0021xx - 0029xx, V3.00", I have 9 of these chips. "Arcnet, 190ST/SBT, Netware, Boot ROM, S/N: EL 0033xx, V3.00", I have 4 of these chips. "Netware, Arcnet, 120A, Boot PROM, V2.1x", I have only one of these chips. If you like additional information, like the numbers on the bottom, just let me know. Thanks for your information and interest. Bill Machacek

20 years, 1 month

creating CDs for use with SGI systems

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Silly question, I know... I need to create a CD with files on for access by an SGI system. Of course, the SGI uses a CDROM drive that uses 512 byte blocks. My desktop PC's the only thing with a CD burner in it, which is naturally set to a block size of 2048. >From the point of view of creating a CD, does this matter? Or is the block size issue only to do with transferring data from the CD unit to the host, and iso9660 is the same on both platforms? It's one of those stupid questions that I really don't know the answer to - I'm used to either just dealing with CDs on a PC, or using original vendor media on systems which use 512 blocks (such as Sun and SGI) I've only got a couple of decent branded blank CDs left in the house, or I'd just risk trashing one and find out for myself :-) cheers, Jules

20 years, 1 month

More DEC boards FS

by anheier＠owt.com

These are the last of my stock of DEC boards. These boards are in reasonable shape, but perhaps some capacitors, etc will have to be replaced to get working. I want $15 each + shipping 4 each: M3105 DHU11-A ASYNC MUX DMA CNTL 1 each: M8750-CB MEMORY 1 each: M8750-CP MEMORY 1 each: M7485-YA M7485 W/ BLSTD RMS 4 LYR UDA50 1 each: M7903 BOARD DATA RK06 1 each + 1 damaged: M7819 8 LN DBL BUF ASYNC EIA DZ1 Thanks Norm

20 years, 1 month

HP firmware identification?

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I have some firmware chips in a 21MX/E that I can't seem to identify from my docs, and some I think I know what they are but not sure. 13307-80036, 13307-80037, 13307-80038 I think these are DMI 5090-0589, 5090-0590, 5090-0591 I think these are FPP 92067-80001, 92067-80002, 92067-80003 I think these are EMA (used by RTE?) 93585-80006, 93585-80007, 93585-80008 No clue, may be proprietary ProVOX? 92084-80004, 92084-80005, 92084-80006 No clue, may be proprietary ProVOX? 92084-80007, 92084-80008, 92084-80009 No clue, may be proprietary ProVOX? Can anyone help and confirm or deny any of this? Jay West

20 years, 1 month

manuals in pdf (resolution, compression)

by owad＠applefritter.com

I have a lot of manuals I want to scan and am trying to decide upon the best format. I'd like some opinions on the following scans of a 128-page Franklin AceWriter manual. On the low end is a pdf of bitmap images. It's hideous, but only 3.5 MB. The high end is a 40 MB pdf of jpeg images. This one's easy on the eyes, but is an awfully large download and I'm wondering if it might not print as nicely as the bitmap. In the middle is a pdf of compressed jpegs at 15 MB. This looks good to my eyes, I just wonder about using compressed jpegs for archiving... <www.applefritter.com/temp/acewriter_lo.pdf> (3.5 MB) <www.applefritter.com/temp/acewriter_med.pdf> (15 MB) <www.applefritter.com/temp/acewriter_hi.pdf> (40 MB) (Disregard the incorrect ordering of the pages.) Thoughts? Which of the three would you most want to download? Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com

20 years, 1 month

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