Hello Joe,
Thanks for your offer to copy the manual. That would
be so helpful! I'm located in Calgary, Alberta, Canada,
near the beautiful Rocky Mountains.
In the interests of trying to help you with your analog
cable problem, I'll try to describe what my unit has...
Two ribbon cables come out the back of my unit:
- A "normal" IBM-PC 34 pin ribbon cable with two
connectors on the end (one that mates with the
connector found on most 3.5 inch drives and one
that mates with the PC-board-edge connector found
on older 5.25 inch drives).
- A wider 50 pin ribbon that mates with a PC-board-edge
connector. I don't know what kind of drive this
cable is for!
There are also two male receptacles on the back near
the center of the unit.
- A 20-pin (2 X 10) connector that looks like it will
mate with my old Apple II 5.25 inch floppy drives.
I have not been brave enough to try it yet!
- A 40-pin (2 x 20) connector of the same style as the
above 20-pin connector (just longer :-)
Inside the unit these two connectors are mounted on a small
PC board, which then has a jumper to one of the unit's two
plug-in "cards". This small PC board is fed an unregulated
voltage, and has a linear regulator (+12 volt if I remember
right) mounted on it. Aside from some capacitors, there's
not much more on this board. The board looks more like an
adaptor than anything else.
Could it be you're missing this little adaptor board? If
so, I can reverse engineer it for you. It wouldn't be the
first time I've created a schematic from a populated PC
board!
Somewhere around here I have an Apple service manual that gives
the pin-outs for the 20-pin floppy drive connector, though I
would expect you should be able to find that on the web pretty
easily these days. But if you need it, I'll dig it up.
Finally, there's the leads to supply power to the drives
under test:
- one lead ends with a connector appropriate for 5.25 inch
drives, and came mated with a short adaptor to fit 3.5 inch
drives
- the second lead ends with a strange 6 pin (2 rows of 3)
connector that probably fits what ever monster the above
50 pin ribbon cable was intended to mate with :-)
Please let me know if I can help.
My email address (replace the Z with "@" and the X with "."):
kennjZtelusplanetXnet
(yeah, I already get enough spam!).
Take care,
Kenn
> Kenn,
>
> I have two model 723s and a manual. I don't remember the details of the
> options off the top of my head but I'll try to find the manual and scan it.
> I THINK one of mine has some of the analog options but I don't have the
> cables for them and I don't know the pinouts. Perhaps you can help with
> that. BTW where are you loacted?
>
> Joe
On Jun 3, 9:08, Jason McBrien wrote:
> Our resident DEC expert says they are, but he can't remember for
sure. (He
> used to fix them)
>
>
> >From: Ed <edward(a)groenenberg.net>
> >
> >Just a quick question, are the heads in an RK07 the same as in an
RL02?
> >They awfully look the same, so I was just wondering.....
That seems unlikely to me, because both RL02 and RK07 are 14" platters,
but the RL02 has 512 cylinders and the RK07 has 815. That means the
cylinders are closer together on the RK07 (385 tpi instead of 250 tpi,
in fact), which implies they are also narrower.
The RL02 has embedded (sectored) servo information on every track, the
RK07 uses the fourth surface for the servo information.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Our resident DEC expert says they are, but he can't remember for sure. (He
used to fix them)
>From: Ed <edward(a)groenenberg.net>
>Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
>Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: RK07 diskheads
>Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 00:01:25 +0200
>
>Hi all,
>
>Just a quick question, are the heads in an RK07 the same as in an RL02?
>They awfully look the same, so I was just wondering.....
>
>Ed
>
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On Jun 3, 10:20, Ashley Carder wrote:
> I have a DEC RX01 drive and the box of floppies that I have
> with it are 8 inch single sided single density. Are 8" hard
> sectored floppies compatible with these?
No, RX01 (and RX02) are soft-sectored.
Soft-sectored disks have one index hole punched near the centre, and an
optical sensor detects this once per revolution, indicating the logical
start-of-track. Hard-sectored disks have one hole per sector, and the
sensor detects these to indicate start-of-sector; the first sector is
distinguished because there's an extra hole (the index hole) punched
halfway between two sector holes.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
>>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11805&item=381854314…
=1
>
>Thought some folks might be interested.
>
>Jay
>
Hi Jay
Although, it is an interesting machine at $10, it isn't
quite so interesting at $125. I do most the same thing
now with my laptop when working on my Nicolet. I connect
the serial to the Nicolet. When I actually have to read a
punch tape, I made a cable to connect the laptop's parallel
port ( bi-directional ) to a high speed tape reader I have.
I keep the tape images in files and can even write to
floppies, just like the machine on eBay ( wow! ).
Dwight
I'm mailing this to CCTECH as I can't find Hans Franke's e-mail
Hello, I was just googling about the Siemens 6-611 you offered to help
me out with not too long ago, as somehow I missed your previous reply.
Yes! Anything you have on this machine is most definitely interesting.
Please tell me if you have anything at all, both docs and software are
fun. (meanwhile, I'm STILL looking for the damned female-female DB9
cable for the terminal)
I'll send pics when I get my camera back.
Anyway, more info about the system.
It's got a male DB9 port labeled Display Unit, which I'm assuming should
lead to the CRT I've got here. It's got a port labeled Channel A, V.24,
and one labeled Channel B, Adapter 1, and with a ballpen someone has
written "current loop".
There are seven more male DB9s, labeled Optional Cluster Terminal
Connectors, seven in all.
Now, the interesting thing is that the mainboard, and most of the
circuit boards, are labelled Tandberg Data! (Tandberg Data is a
Norwegian computer manufacturer, making fairly popular X terminals, and
serial terminals too.
Its serial number is 901504, It has a TAN number, 7001, which I don't
know what means, but you probably do :)
It has a diskette drive, 8". On the back of the unit is a list of
options, including the disk drive, a Character Generator, a Cluster
Interface Option, a Option Boards Mounting Kit. If their TANs or any
other numbers matter, please mail me, and I'll give them to you.
Additionally, the CRT has video in and out, are these PAL TV compatible?
Thanks in advance!! (And, to the list, sorry for this, but I'm really
eager to get this beautiful beast working :) )
-tsb
"If it ain't broke, take it apart and find out why."
I will now tell you the most unusual water problem we ever had in out
computer room. The drop ceiling above out Printronix and Versatec line
printers collapsed on them. It dumped water and grunge all over the
printers. The hammers on the Printronix rusted and we had to replace
them.
You ask how the water got in the ceiling well here is the story.
Our computer center was on the 10th floor of an 11 story office building
in the Northwest Plaza shopping center in Saint Louis. For Christmas
the shopping center managers decided to install a very large Santa Claus
on the roof, flown in by helicopter in 2 sections and assembled on the
roof.
The Santa was to be held up by a metal frame bolted to the roof. The
installation crew drilled holes in the roof, missed the beam and punched
right through the roof. They just shoved a little gravel over the
incorrect hole and drilled a new one. The next melting snow and rain
filled up the roof and drained through the hole into one of the
unoccupied 11th floor offices above our computer room and then leaked
down through the floor into the drop ceiling. The wet ceiling was too
heavy and crashed down onto the printers.
BTW
After Christmas the Santa was lain down on the roof and covered by a
tarp. You could see the tips of the boots under the tarp all year.
Mike
Any UK collectors of newer Apple stuff out there? Someone from a TV
company contacted Bletchley museum earlier wanting to hire 17 Apple
Powerbooks to film. All of our stuff tends to be significantly older :-)
Sounds like the machines don't need to be runners.
If anyone does have a few (even if they don't have 17!) and is
interested then shout and I can put you in touch.
cheers
Jules