Through the generosity of Patrick Rigney, I've set up the SEBHC (Society
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information, hardware and software related to early Heath/Zenith
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You can subscribe to the list by doing one of the following:
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Come join us if you are interested in sharing more about the H8, H/Z
88-89-90 or ET-3400 computers. Z100 users also welcome, as long as
you're running on the right processor!
Jack Rubin
Wilmette, Illinois
USA
Anybody want a few HP workstations?
I have a few 9000/735's (two of which should be working)
and a bunch of 9000/c110 machines (stripped, no memory,
no drives).
I also have an IBM monitor that will work with the 735's.
Free to a good home, the only catch is that you'll have to pick
them up from Wichita, KS. I'd like to dispose of the entire lot
in one go if I can.
Otherwise, they'll be melted.
If you have any questions, e-mail me off-list and I'll try to
answer them . . ..
Jeff
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Hi All,
I have to arrange for some stuff to be picked up, but cant make
it the next few weeks (on my way to the U.S. again..) .. could
someone close to, or in London (Camden area) help me out by
grabbing it so I can come pick it up later?
Pse reply off-list,
Fred
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Andrew:
Michel Bel in France often has broken/part LX's for sale. You can contact
him through the HPLX mailing list
(http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml).
You will probably have trouble finding a 200LX for $50, though, since for
$125 you can get a broken one (even a broken LCD) fixed at Thadeus and
working ones are going for $150+ on eBay now. The average prices are down a
bit now from a year ago. If you are patient, you can get one for <$150. I
paid about $115 for mine a few years ago, when the average price was more
like $300.
Bob
Message: 10
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 11:49:05 -0500
From: "Andrew Strouse" <kittstr(a)access-4-free.com>
Subject: HP 200LX
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Message-ID: <067801c412b6$224b6210$ce4d4a43@amscomputer>
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Does anyone have an extra working/possibly repairable 200LX laying around,
that
they would be willing to part with for $50 or less? They seem to be selling
for
far too much on e-bay. I don't really need any of the extra things that are
included in all these auctions, memory cards, adapters for this and that,
modems, or manuals. I would just like the unit. Thanks in advance for any
leads
anyone can provide.
Andrew Strouse
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Howdy.
That pretty much sums it up. I have a need for a keyboard and mouse for
an Apollo DN300. It seems to have some sort of RJ11-type connector for
the keyboard. The mouse probably plugs into the keyboard.
Note that this does NOT seem to be the newer Apollo DOMAIN keyboard
with the DIN-type connector.
Hopefully somebody out there can help.
ok
bear
Anyone have experience with the +15v regulator buried deep inside the
back of a BA11? (this an 11/34a actually)
It appears one let go on me this morning. The symptom initial symptom
was no +15/-15v, so I went to my garage and pulled the two supplies from
a "spare" BA11. I replaced them and got the -5 and +20 back but no +15.
I should have known it would be the supply deepest inside the back of
the thing, requiring I completely disconnect the back module. blah.
Is it hard to get to and replace? I'm tempted just to swap the back
ends of the two BA11's...
-brad
I'm in need of a PC interface board for a Corvus hard drive.
Cash or trade. Need soon.
Please contact me directly to negotiate.
Thanks!
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I'm hoping someone can chime in on the
parts having to do with the history of DEC and whatever Classic computing
technology they were working on that was so marvelous that even the aliens got
interested in it.
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They came back to retreive Richie Lary
I have just met an ex-DECer in the #ufo channel on the Undernet IRC network who
claims to have seen UFOs over DEC. Needless to say, I was extremely intrigued,
being both a ufologist and a great DEC fan, and I asked him for more. He told
me it was in Colorado Springs around 1993-94. He said he couldn't remember the
3-character DEC facility code, but he said they were working on CD-ROMs there in
a clean room when CD-ROMs were state of the art. He said the facility still
exists today and has high security. I asked him if it went to HP and he said
Quantum. So I immediately thought DLT and asked him if it was the facility
where they made DLTs. He said yes. He said he worked on the tape drives
himself, as well as on CD-ROMs.
Now here are my questions for this list, to verify the story and to fill in
missing details.
* Were DLTs indeed made in Colorado Springs? DEC's tape business went to
Quantum, didn't it? Did it go through Compaq or straight to Quantum from DEC?
Does Quantum still own it? Or did HP snarf it from Quantum? I once visited
Quantum in 2002 for a job interview (they were looking for someone to write
firmware for a RAID array to emulate a tape library) and that was in Irvine, CA
on the UCI campus. Is it just the headquarters, with actual DLT tape drive
manufacturing in Colorado Springs?
* If it is indeed in Colorado Springs, does anyone have any more information on
that ex-DEC facility? Does anyone know of any government/CSS work done there?
* This guy also mentioned CD-ROMs. He said they made the first DEC CD-ROMs
there, in 1993-94 timeframe. I thought the first CD-ROM sold by DEC was RRD40
and was actually a Philips drive, wasn't it? The next was RRD42, which was
actually made by Sony, right? Did DEC ever build CD-ROM drives themselves or
did they all outsourced to Sony and such? If RRD40 and RRD42 were Philips/Sony,
why did they need a clean room in Colorado Springs? Or was it the next one,
RRD43? Was RRD43 also Sony or was it made by DEC itself? What was DEC's
cutting edge CD-ROM drive in 1993-94? Did they make any CD-ROM drives at the
same place where they made DLTs? It kinda makes sense that it would be the same
group, "Tape and Optical Products" if I'm not mistaken, but just checking.
Here are the relevant parts of my conversation with this guy from my IRC log:
<VortexQ:#ufo> there were about 50 people that saw this on a clear blue day...during lunch
<VortexQ:#ufo> <VortexQ> to everyone's surprise...we all looked up and a huge cigar-shaped UFO was hovering over the building at about 200 feet overhead
<VortexQ:#ufo> <VortexQ> right over Digital
<VortexQ:#ufo> it was very apparent that there seems to be a vested interesting from a higher source, in DEC
<VortexQ:#ufo> interest, that is
#ufo> VortexQ you still didn't say which DEC facility/group and when did it happen
<RB2:#ufo> Msokolov> Colorado Springs
#ufo> RB2 what do you mean? You mean DEC facility in Colorado Springs?
#ufo> what time period? how long ago was it?
<RB2:#ufo> That's what I understood from Vortex
<RB2:#ufo> I have no idea, he didn't get to that yet :)
#ufo> did he tell you what was his job at DEC?
<RB2:#ufo> No, I didn't get anymore information than that.
#ufo> I still wonder when did it happen
#ufo> RB2 said it was in Colorado Springs, wasn't it? Can you tell me the DEC facility code? I know each DEC facility has a 3-letter code
<VortexQ:#ufo> F***...what is the code?
<VortexQ:#ufo> hmmm
<VortexQ:#ufo> it has been a while
#ufo> did you actually work at DEC?
<VortexQ:#ufo> yes
<VortexQ:#ufo> doi
<VortexQ:#ufo> like people remember the stupid facility code for the rest of their lives...sheesh!
<VortexQ:#ufo> I do not work there anymore
<VortexQ:#ufo> duh
#ufo> how long ago was it?
<VortexQ:#ufo> well, hell
<VortexQ:#ufo> they were working on cd roms in the clean rooms at the time
#ufo> their computer technology was so marvelous that even aliens got interested!
<VortexQ:#ufo> cd roms were fairly cutting edge back then
<VortexQ:#ufo> I think the aliens were more interested in the research they had going on in the basement...Msokolov
<VortexQ:#ufo> 1993-1994...somewhere around that time
#ufo> thanks VortexQ, that's a much better date
#ufo> more precise than "when making CD-ROMs"
<VortexQ:#ufo> well, I have the flu...Msokolov...my thinking is a bit slow between tissues
#ufo> VortexQ, I know the feeling, I hate flu too
<VortexQ:#ufo> in fact...strange that you meantion them being shut down
#ufo> why strange?
<VortexQ:#ufo> I do not really believe they are...Mskovolov
#ufo> well DEC was torn to bits and sold off to various nuts like Comfuq/HP
#ufo> VAX was killed and buried
<VortexQ:#ufo> after the craft started showing up...the whole facility seems to be very off limits secure now
<VortexQ:#ufo> yeah...true
#ufo> does it belong to HP now? that facility you worked in
<VortexQ:#ufo> yes, I believe so...Quantum had it
#ufo> so it didn't go with the rest of Digital to Compaq? It went to Quantum instead?
#ufo> VortexQ, was it the facility where they made DLT tapes?
#ufo> I know that part went to Quantum
<VortexQ:#ufo> yes, Msokolov...why?
<Shambuku:#ufo> Vortex do you have a degree ?
<VortexQ:#ufo> no, I do not have a degree
<VortexQ:#ufo> why?
#ufo> I'm tracking it down, this may be of extreme importance to humanity
<VortexQ:#ufo> is it necessary in order to be intelligent?
<Shambuku:#ufo> Then how did you get a job at DEC
<Shambuku:#ufo> Yes
#ufo> you don't need a degree to be intelligent
<Shambuku:#ufo> Yes you do
#ufo> only to satisfy the assholes in HR department
<VortexQ:#ufo> I have a year in electronics in college
<VortexQ:#ufo> you could say I learn very quickly
<nwb:#ufo> did einstein have a degree
<VortexQ:#ufo> lol
<Shambuku:#ufo> Yes
<VortexQ:#ufo> about that too Msokolov
<VortexQ:#ufo> I worked on the tape drives...I also worked in the clean room on cd rom drives...the very first ones going out
#ufo> what CD-ROM drive was that? I thought both RRD40 and RRD42 were built outside and only badged by DEC
<VortexQ:#ufo> the tape drives are used to backup data on the system...used as a backup for the server data
#ufo> I know of course what tape drives are for
#ufo> I'm a real geek of BIG computers, still run VAXen
<VortexQ:#ufo> I have also worked as a computer operator in a computer room at a hospital...doing backups and monitoring of the servers and also micro fiche
#ufo> cool
#ufo> but still, what CD-ROM was it that they were building themselves in a clean room?
#ufo> I thought RRD40 was Philips and RRD42 was Sony
<VortexQ:#ufo> guess what, they left me all by myself and I had no problem at all handling the entire list of tasks
<VortexQ:#ufo> the manager just hands me the list...shows me around and says...can you handle it? I said yes.
#ufo> so what was the first CD-ROM drive built inside DEC itself? Was it RRD43? Or am I missing something?
<VortexQ:#ufo> and I did it
<VortexQ:#ufo> hell, I would have to dig out boxes for that information at this point
<VortexQ:#ufo> I am more interested in holographic computer systems and crystalline data crystals at this point in time
<VortexQ:#ufo> you'd be surprised what things are going on now
That's all I have gleaned from this guy. I don't expect much help from this
list with the UFO part, but at least I'm hoping someone can chime in on the
parts having to do with the history of DEC and whatever Classic computing
technology they were working on that was so marvelous that even the aliens got
interested in it.
MS
P.S. A more complete IRC log is available on request.
