4416-16
probably 16 sector. if they are 5440 (RL02-looking) probably
not that interesting, but if they are 2315 (RK05-looking) the pdp8
guys will want them.
>From: "Tom Jennings" <tomj(a)wps.com>
>
>Using minicom on linux. XMODEM protocol failed; not sure what
>the problem is. Possibly minicom's XMODEM doesn't do checksum
>xmodem, only crc, my program (telink) doesn't do crc. So I did
>everything as ASCII.
>
---snip---
Hi Tom
I recently used Xmodem from Windoz and found that
the binaries didn't work with the ascii handshake
turned on. It worked fine with the setting for no
handshake at all.
Dwight
> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Roger Merchberger wrote:
>
> > Rumor has it that Eric Smith may have mentioned these words:
> > > > How old is google anyway? Presumably it'll be on topic
> in a year
> > > > or two? ;)
> >
> > Doubtful, Yahoo's only 10 years old, according to one
> reference - and
> > it even includes what Yahoo originally stood for:
> >
> > http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum9/5082.htm
> >
> > When this list was started, AltaVista was king with Yahoo not far
> > behind, IIRC; Google didn't come around for a few years after that.
>
> Interestingly enough, we first learned about Google from
> someone posting a message to this list about a "new
> experimental search engine". I wish I could find that
> message to see who it was that posted it. It would have been
> back in 1997 or 1998.
>
> --
>
> Sellam Ismail
If you search it on the Wayback Machine the earliest date it gives is
11/11/98, which takes you here:
http://web.archive.org/web/19981111184551/http://google.com/ and gives
you two links to a search engine "prototype." Clicking on the first of
them takes you here:
http://web.archive.org/web/19981111183552/google.stanford.edu/
Note the stanford.edu address.
-W
If
A couple of good auction finds at the U of A. tuesday:
A DECWriter Correspondent which is a somewhat portable printer/terminal. This
one was the model B which doesn't have the acoustic coupler, but has the
internal modem and a 9600 baud EIA port. What was great about this find is
that it came with the origianl Digital brown canvas traveling case and all the
documentation (Operator's manual, reference cards and Programmer's manual)
plus a spare ribbon cartridge. It is really, REALLY, clean. with absolutely no
wear on the keypads and NO discoloration of the plastic, which make me believe
it wasn't used recently, or at all! I was amazed about the ink ribbon, when I
did run the print test the text was nice and crisp. Remember this is SE
arizona where it is drier than a celebrity at the Sierra Tucson detox clinic.
This is a circa 1982 machine too!
The other find was a Heathkit H-19 terminal which I promptly sold to another
fellow collector.
The last was a 10 year old, big, Emerson UPS, model AP115 (1.5 KVA, 1050
watt). It unfortunatly, did not have the batteries, but was in working
condition and for $2.50, I couldn't resist. I think it has a 96 volt capcity
and looks like it can hold quitea few of the small 12 volt VRLA batteries. It
had two heavy duty cables exiting the bottom of the case which leads me to
believe it might have had an external battery case. I'm trying to find some
documentation, any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Tom
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I could use some RL02 packs. Could pay, say $5 each? How many do you have.
Thank you,
Shannon Hoskins
-----Original Message-----
From: William Donzelli <aw288(a)osfn.org>
Sent: Dec 15, 2004 12:56 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Stuff for sale, cheap
I picked up the pile of DECstuff located in White Plains, NY the other
night, and most I really don't want. I am keeping the rack, PDP-11/23,
RL02s and some packs, and maybe a VT100, but the rest I don't need. So
here it goes, cheap:
(many) RL02 disk packs (some I think have MUMPS stuff)
(2 or 3) LA50 printers (little desktop things)
(2 or 3) VT100oid keyboards (may have missing keycaps)
Make silly offers for this stuff - just give me something for my
time and gas fetching the stuff. Shipping is from 10512.
Come to think of it, someone local could probably easily talk me out of
the whole pile. I must say it is not too pretty.
Unrelated, I also have an ancient video game - one of those analog/digital
hybrids (ping/squash/practice/soccer - the ultra cheesy games from the
mid 1970s). It is a Bentley Compuvision. The paddles are included, but
one is missing the knob (the pot shaft is still there). I was told it
still works, but did not try it out. Also accepting silly offers for the
thing.).
Oh, and I also see I have a tube of Altera EP610SC-15 EPLD chips. These
are surface mount - I assume unblown, but can't be sure. 17 chips is
all. Same deal.
Please reply off list.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
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Anybody have any suggestions aout how to identify what drive/system these
are for? I picked up several 15" removeable disk cartridges earlier this
week but I don't know what drive or system they're for. It looks like they
came from a GenRad test station so it was probably some kind of DEC based
system. A couple of the disks say "Scopus Corporation System 90". Anybody
have any idea what that is? One disk was made by Magntic Data and is a
model 46. Another was made by Nashua and it's model 4416-16. I just found
another marking that says one of the disk is for a GenRad 1796 ssytem.
Anybody know anything aboutt the Genrad test stations? I think I have all
of the system disks for that system. FWIW the system was used for testing a
transponder for the MilStar satellite.
Joe
Hi
Grainger claims to be a whole saler. They like to
always deal with companies. Even though not incorporated,
they have no problem selling to our small water system
company ( 7 homes ) but won't sell to me as an individual.
If it is taxable, they don't need a tax number. I'd
suspect that if you gave them most any fictitious name
they would sell to you without question, even in small
amounts.
Dwight
>From: "Tom Jennings" <tomj(a)wps.com>
>
>On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Joe R. wrote:
>
>> I doubt McMaster Carr will be of any help. You have to have an account
>> with them AND a tax number before they'll sell to you. And that's even if
>> you walk into one of their locations. I doubt they'd even talk to you if
>> they knew that you're in Europe.
>
>Grainger is like that too, never could figure out what their
>problem is.
>
>MSC Direct doesn't have that problem. I buy for work and
>personally. I do simple $30 orders, online, delivered
>to home. YOu can call and talk to (somtimes) knowledgable
>people. Overall prices are OK, not great; but when you need
>only one item or a small quantity (I just bought a bunch of
>odd plastics from them) it doesn't matter.
>
>Ask for a free catalog; is 4" thick, thousands of pages, hard
>cover! Free!
>
>www.mscdirect.com
>
>
Jonathan -
I have a xerox copy which I will PDF and send to you and make generally
available. It may take a week or two given the holiday madness, but I will
get it to you.
Bob Stek
Saver of Lost Sols
Hello.
I have a couple of still sealed Teletype Model 43s.
The units have never been opened, and they come in a
box, which is wrapped in a foil with dissicant inside.
I also have one open unit. I was wondering if you
would be interested in the item or can tell me what is
the value of it.
thanks
Zafar Bangash.
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answer on the web...
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OK! I finally used 2, 3 brain cells, worked out the problem
with my Centrol Data 64K RAM and got my CP/M machine working
fine. (ANother SRAM dies in the Seattle 16K card... a bad sign).
Ran a half day's worth of mem tests (good ones) seems OK.
Took the bad bearing out of the noisy B: drive (it was a sealed
ball bearing ass'y, not a plain like I thought; I washed it out,
added some light lube, wrote down the part number, will order
one, it's quieter in the mean time).
Got the serial port working (simply plugged into the "PC"
serial card (PCMCIA) in my linux laptop), default 9600 baud
worked as-is!
Using minicom on linux. XMODEM protocol failed; not sure what
the problem is. Possibly minicom's XMODEM doesn't do checksum
xmodem, only crc, my program (telink) doesn't do crc. So I did
everything as ASCII.
I converted a few diskettes worth, most notably CBBS 3.5,
1980 version. I had a read error on MODEM 2.17' diskette,
but a head clean might solve it (the head goops up every 30
minutes... not a good sign).
This was just a half-assed first-pass at the job. I really
should simply plug the drive into linux and copy them, I'll
probably do that, but I want to shake down the system too.
http://wps.com/CPM-80/
Just a raw dir for now, it'll grow into a real web page.
i design one board install in PC for example
in PII 333Mhz and connect to HP2100 (connect to I/O for
HP7900A disc in 2100) HP2100 think connected to hp7900
but it connect to new board . new borad work like hp7900
data on hp7900 save in file on PC this board get data
>from PC and send it to HP2100 or get from HP2100 and send
to PC for replace in file. all thing work like hp7900
stuts word ,addressing,send and recive data.
oceanid987(a)yahoo.com
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While browsing the Wayback Machine, I found that Archive.org
now has all the episodes of Computer Chronicles online.
Six hundred eighteen episodes, 1983 to 2002. Amazing.
Arranged by keyword, with show descriptions. MPEG4
are about 78 meg, MP4 half that.
http://www.archive.org/movies/computerchronicles.php
- John
On Dec 21 2004, 20:58, Gooijen H wrote:
> Ok, I checked.
> I am that fast back because I remembered exactly where to look :~)
> I have one before me on the desk.
> It has the following description:
>
> PRODUCT CODE: AC-8528C-MC
> PRODUCT NAME: CZDLDC0 DL11-W DIAG
> DATE CREATED: MARCH 1978
> MAINTAINER : DIAGNOSTIC ENGINEERING
> AUTHOR : DAN CASALETTO
>
> Don't be fooled, it is printed on Letter format, 2-sided!
> Only the first 6 pages are one page per side, all the following
> pages are scaled: 2 pages per side, thus 4 pages (or images) per
sheet.
> The first 6 pages describe the load and start procedure, the switch
> bits to get special functions, etc. just as described on my site.
> The scaled pages contain the assembly source (output) listing ...
> they are numbered from "seq 0012"up to "seq 0103", and I checked,
> the numbering is not octal but decimal!
> If there is interest I could start to scan these to 600 dpi PDF
files,
> but I have a stack of approx 20-30 cm high, so that will be a lot
MB's!
I have a stack about the same size, and I've been thinking about
scanning stuff like that (to PDFs or 600dpi TIFF), when my department
gets its big scanner, probably in January (Sorry, Henk, it's not an
Oce). A list of what's available would be good. I suspect that a lot
of what I have overlaps with Henk's, but if I can fill in any gaps,
I'll try to do so. Some of the diags are quite long, tens of sheets
2-up, double-sided, except for the first few pages, as Henk says, but
some are relatively small.
> I could start making a list of what's in the box. Xmas is coming :~)
A list of what's available would be good. I suspect that a lot of what
I have overlaps with Henk's, but if I can fill in any gaps, I'll try to
do so.
Sorry about the spelling and dropped characters in my last post, BTW.
Must fix this keyboard (right after I fix these fingers).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Anyone here ever played the old Mac game Captain Magneto?
Anyone ever win?
HOW?!?!
I can get the jet pack and I can fly into the castle past the killer
spider, but I can't figure out how to put together the rocket.
I also can't find the key to open the door on the micro island to get the
laser gun. Without the gun, it is next to impossible to kill that bastard
spider guarding the castle. If I can't kill him reliably, then I don't
think I have a shot at getting the rocket working.
I've wanted to beat this game for eons... and every Xmas I think about it
as I plan to return to my folks house and memories of sitting playing for
hours on end at the 128k Mac come flooding back. So its that time of year
again, and I still want to win the damn game!
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:36:16 -0800 (PST)
>From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)floodgap.com>
>Subject: Re: Old Dos Programs
>
>Eventually, yes, though they were only distributors for that one (id Software
>actually wrote the Commander Keen series; check out their exorcism of their
>past games, including Wolf and CK, in DOOM II's secret level
Never saw Commander Keen stuff in DOOM II, only the Wolfenstein level.
I'd be grateful for any hints or tips to call up CK in DOOM II.
Thanks,
Freek.
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, David Holland wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-12-22 at 23:46 +0000, Antonio Carlini wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> It was possible to arrange for SCSI to be in the box using
>> a KZQSA, but that was only used to drive CDROM and tape -
>> disks were not oficially supported.
> It does have true scsi on it at least.. You say disks were "Not
> officially supported".. I don't suppose they'd work still though?
Read: No driver under VMS or NetBSD, and the design was very low-cost with
lots of corners cut. Apparently it'll barely tolerate a single drive
attached to it.
> (I've a number of varying size SCSI drives in external shoe boxes that
> are easy enough to move around, and plug in. DSSI drives, well....
> Unsurprisingly, I don't have any of those, should the below 3 turn out
> to be boat anchors.)
I'm willing to bet that ALL of your DSSI disks are fine. If you require
more storage, go and get a HSD05 and a Storageworks shelf to put it in.
eBah has them quite regularly. A Storageworks shelf is a rackmountable
SCSI drawer system, holds 8 modules. At least one of those would be a PSU,
the rest can be disks or tapes. A HSD05 is a DSSI <-> SCSI converter that
appears on the DSSI bus as an attached server with multiple RF7x disks.
I run two DSSI VAXen off one DSSI bus sharing a HSD05. Easiest and
cheapest way to get NetBSD on a 4000/200 is a KFQSA QBus DSSI card and a
HSD05 :)
> I've poked around in it, and on the net enough to see what all is in
> it.. Should anyone be interested..
>
> 2 RF72 1G drives.
> 1 RF31 380M drive.
Yum :)
alex/melt
In November 2003 Joe Heck offered up a stack of manuals including some heathkit stufff I could really use right now that he was going to toss. I'd like to contact him and see if he indeed tossed them out.
Regards,
Eric Lenius
lenius(a)tscnet.com
Heathkit H11-2 parallel interface module schematic
Heathkit WH9-1, WH8-51, WH11-51, WH8-41 adapter cables instructions
Heathkit H11-2 illistration booklet
Heathkit WHA11-5 serial interface module schematic
Heathkit H11-5 illistration booklet
Heath/Zenith model WHA11-5 serial interface module operation/service manual
1979
Heathkit H11-5 serial interface module 1977
Heathkit H11-2 parallel interface module 1977
Heathkit H11-5 schematic
Hi
It seems that every now and then, people need a
parallel keyboard. There is an auction on ebay
for two keyboards that were designed for a Franklin Ace.
I've bought from this fellow in the past and these
are good quality keyboards. They are NOS. They require
only +5V and are ASCII true out.
I have hacked the PROM for this board and can give
you the locations to change the key behavior for
specific operation that one might need for another
machine. They can take a standard 2716 but have
some type of 2508 on them. They have a 8035 or
8048 as the processor.
If no one else bids on these by tomorrow some time,
I'll bid on them. It would be better to see these go to
someone that needs them now then to sit in my
spares pile.
Check ebay #5149974404
Later
Dwight
My old machine is slowly becoming sensible.
Turns out I had three bad RAM chips in my Seattle 16K
boards. They're TI 9044's, I assume are 2147 type. Jameco sells
them for $6 each; is there a better source? (They're also 55nS
claimed, about 3X faster than what's in there now!)
I juggled chips such that the duds are at 9000 - 9fff, so I can
boot CP/M (62K system) and run some programs (memtest, sid...).
I've got to figure out why the floppy controller won't talk to
side 2 (sectors 27 - 52) and I can do that in 16K easily.
My B: drive is loud OH MAN IS IT SO LOUD I have to power it off
after a program load! Need to find another double sided drive.
Out of sheer laziness, to avoid even the faint effort it took
to find the bad chips, I yanked all my nice static RAM and
swapped in my other RAM cards, one by one:
* Central Data 64K
* MSC 64K
* mumble brand, some acronym, no manual (I'm not at home right now)
My EPROM monitor resides at 7800 - 7fff, uses a dozen bytes
RAM below 7800. It self-copies into RAM and turns itself off
(for a clean address space after boot).
Central Data: set the jumpers right, plugged it in, Nothing
Happens. (Boring story & expletives deleted) it shorted +16V,
popped the fuse. Another one of those !@#$%W^% tantalums;
47uF/35V. Replaced with an electrolytic (it was just down near
the card edge). Card works now, but flake-ey results, failed
address-contention tests, couldn't boot CP/M. It's all 4116's,
lots of jumpers for buss timing, ugh. Needs Work.
Reference separate rant on capacitors.
MSC: Dislike this thing's RC filters on the data/address
lines! Crock-detect! I forget the problem, but had problems
with one bank (32K).
Mumble: Inert.
All the static cards back in, debugged the problem. For the
S-100 buss, I'll stick with static memory, thank you!
Joe;
Do you have any software that drives or uses the iSBX 251 bubble memory
module board?
My 1986 Intel Development systems handbook says
"The iPDS can be used as a general purpose desktop computer. The widely used
CP/M microcomputer operating system is available for the iPDS from Intel. It
supports iPDS systems with single or multiple disk drives, and iPDS systems
using bubble memory for mass storage."
Is this inherent in CP/M from Intel? Has anyone tried this? I think I have
Intel CP/M for the iPDS but don't have any bubble memory left. Nor do I have any
of the 4 way iSBX boards for the iPDSs left.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:10:06, Al Kossow (aek(a)spies.com) wrote:
> I've put a scan of the 791x installation manual up at
> www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/disc/07912-90902_791x_Inst_Jun86.pdf
Many Thanks, Mr. Kossow! And all that quick!
This will no doubt enable me to prepare the drives for moving. I've pulled
this and the corresponding Service Manual down.
The machine wasn't run in the last few years according to the owner, so a
dummy-loaded PSU checkout seems to be in order. As an HP 1000 neophyte, what
other corners do I have to pay special attention to? (The Site Environmental
Requirements for Disc/Tape Drives say something about an absolute filter
that may have to be changed sometimes, but since the 7912 is said to use a
sealed drive assy. in the Service manual, I suppose this applies to another
series?)
Another time this list proves to be a magnificient resouce to me...
Yours sincerely
--
Arno Kletzander
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Hi Nico, I'm in Australia.
I'm looking for drivers for my Compaticard IV.
I found this on the net:
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From: "David C. Jenner" <djenner(a)earthlink.net>
To: "Classic Computer Moderated List" <cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:47 PM
Subject: Compaticard IV Master Diskette
>
> Note that I'm not talking about the Uniform software package, but
> if it were available, I'd be interested in it, too!
>
On its way
Nico
CAN YOU HELP ME ???CHEERS,LAURIE.
Hi,
Thanks to Dave, who sent me the Teledisk images of CP/M and ISIS, I was able to get my old iPDS running after sitting (and doing nothing) for the past few years.
For those interested, I used Teledisk Version 2.11 running on an IBM PS/1 (25Mhz 486) running DOS5. I used 360K DD diskettes in the 5inch (1.2M capable) drive and it worked without any errors. I made a couple of copies and they all booted flawlessly in the iPDS. Wonderful stuff!
The iPDS also came with a programming module for the 8748, 8749 and 8751. I'm not real familiar with these chips, but I may have a few around and I think I've got the spec sheets on them, so I'll have a bit of a play I can do with it.
The MDS225 restoration is going well. I have contacted the seller who has a box of cables and I'm going to see him later this week to see if the dble density drive array cable is there. I hope so 'cos it saves me having to make one.
seeyuzz
river