test-drb November 2004

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by GFisher＠tristonecapital.com

Wow! Nasty. Kind of a round about way to do credit card fraud, but on the other hand it puts the trail onto the hapless guys who paid for the items on eBay. I suppose eGolds records would just lead to some post office box or even worse, general delivery and i'm sure a battery of lawyers would be required to even get that far. New day, different scam! I hope you went to the eBay forums with your info, I suppose eBay will do nothing to warn anybody (scams never happen on eBay!). Any idea how your credit card info got to the scammer? Gary Fisher This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author and are not endorsed by the author's employer. Original Message (edited for brevity)is below: Message: 39 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:37:23 -0600 From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com> Subject: FYI: identity theft To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20041123102938.0517b8b0@pc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bound to happen! A few odd charges showed up on my business credit card. I caught it quickly, then went into gumshoe mode.

20 years

Anti-Apple Commercial edit...

by cvendel＠att.net

If you're looking for a good laugh, I just found this anti-Apple commercial, its very vulgar, so be forwarned! http://media.ebaumsworld.com/apple.wmv Curt

20 years, 1 month

FW: Sanyo MBC 4050 computer available (Glasgow)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi all, Chap in Glasgow's got a Sanyo MBC 4050 CP/M machine which is surplus to requirements - anyone want? Apparently it's got all disks (OS, WordStar, CalcStar, Reportstar and Datastar) and docs, plus the guy thinks he has the original packaging in his loft. It's got a daisywheel printer with it too. His name's Richard Service - drop him an email directly at richardservice(a)ntlworld.com if you're interested. No connection with him - he conacted the museum with a view to donating it, but we're swamped with CP/M machines as it is! cheers, Jules

20 years, 1 month

FW: Sanyo MBC 4050 computer available (Glasgow)

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Joe R. <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > They're understanding as long as they're girlfriends. When they become > wifes it's a whole different story! Is it part of the marriage vows to support each other's Life's Work? Did you make it clear upfront when you first met that running classic computers is your Life's Work and Mission and that it is what you would be doing together for the rest of your life ("till death do you part")? MS

20 years, 1 month

Help needed in the US

by williams.dan＠gmail.com

I have bought some cables on ebay but the seller will only ship with ups. The package is about 5kg. UPS are quoting over $100. Can anyone kindly receive them for me and forward on to me in the UK. They are 5 6ft dssi cables. Thanks Dan

20 years, 1 month

IBM 3270 interfacing?

by mross666＠hotmail.com

Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:13:53 +0100 From: Tore S Bekkedal <toresbe(a)ifi.uio.no> Subject: IBM 3270 interfacing? To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >Does anyone know anything about the protocol that the IBM 3270 terminals >uses on the BNC ports labelled I/O? Is there any possibility of hooking >this up to anything modern? 3270 terminals use... 3270 protocol, at the lower levels, to send noises down a coax wire. At the higher levels, you get into heavy-duty blue-glue acronyms you don't want to touch with a condom-covered bargepole. Like BSC, SNA... <shivers>. Here's the trick. These 3270 terminals hook up, not directly to hosts (well, except for a few special cases), but to terminal controllers. The least ancient of these are type 3174 - search ebay for IBM 3174* and you'll find a few usually. 3174-2x are best. Pay $10-$50 perhaps. These normally hook up directly to mainframes, via bus/tag channels or escon, or remotely to mainframes, via modems and wierd IBM protocols. You want nothing to do with either. The 3174s also came with options for token ring (pretty cheap now) and ethernet (still ruinously expensive) attachment. Get one of those, and get the latest version of the controller microcode (C6.4 I think) from IBM. This magic microcode allows you to also use the 3174 as a telnet client - you boot the controller, power on any coax-attached 3270 terminals - and the terminal displays a screen which essentially allows you to type 'telnet <hostname>' and connect, like any other telnet client or serial terminal (but with a funky keyboard!). See http://www.corestore.org/emuterm.htm for some my adventures with this stuff! Mike http://www.corestore.org

20 years, 1 month

Found 1954 IBM manual

by wacarder＠usit.net

Today I was cleaning out my room over the garage, which is where I have my home office and my *MODERN* computers. In the process of cleaning out one of the desk drawers, I found an old manual that I knew I had kept since college in the 1970s, but I had lost track of where it was. It's a 1954 "Preliminary Manual of Information" for IBM Electronic Data Processing Machines, Type 702. It's 83 pages long and has lots of interesting information on the 702 system and its related set of peripherals and other items. On page 4 is a picture of an installation, with some 727 Magnetic Tape Units, an operator's console, a 712 Card Reader, the 702 Arithmetic and Logic Unit, a 732 Magnetic Drum Storage Unit, a 722 Card Punch, and a 717 Printer. The main storage unit can hold a total of 10,000 characters, which are stored as dot and dash charges on 3" cathode ray tubes. Does anyone on this list remember this kind of system? It is really interesting reading, looking at this manual and comparing to where we are today, or even where we were back in the 1970s, when I picked this manual up from the "free giveaway" table outside our college's computer room. Does anyone know if this manual exists in scanned form? If not, I'll scan it and send it to Al Kossow to put on bitsavers. Ashley

20 years, 1 month

IBM PC, MAC+, Misc related items free for postage

by wpileggi＠juno.com

These items free for postage from 19001 - manuals/media sent book/media rate. All in good or better condition. Macintosh Plus 1MB/kybd/mouse/cables/dustcover. Works, no boot floppies, 20 pounds. IBM PC "B", mfd. May, 1985. Works. 23-30 pounds. IBM AT Technical Reference 3 ring binder - purple. Empty. IBM Personal Computer AT - Guide to Operations. Full manual with floppies - slipcase. IBM Proprinter X24E and XL24E Hardware Maintenance and Service. Full manual - slipcase. Couple hundred 360Kb floppies, used. Email me off-list. Thanks, Bill. ________________________________________________________________ Juno Platinum $9.95. Juno SpeedBand $14.95. Sign up for Juno Today at http://www.juno.com! Look for special offers at Best Buy stores.

20 years, 1 month

DEC colours

by r_a_feldman＠hotmail.com

Companies like Munsel and Macbeth make special color cards for manufacturers. I remember seeing one made for Matel in "Barbie Pink" at the Munsel booth at a National Design Engineering Show some years ago here in Chicago. More recently, I've seen a color card set, the SalmoFan ™ (http://www.smithandlowney.com/salmon/), for grading the color of farm-raised salmon. Message: 26 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:04:31 -0800 (PST) From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> Subject: Re: DEC colours To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0411191802070.21610-100000(a)siconic.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, John Allain wrote: >like the problem of describing right and left to an alien. Where do you >get the reference colors in the first place? Guess one of us has to find >a vendor for the three swatches to mail to requesting parties. And how do we know if DEC maintained the same reference colors throughout their company history? And if so, perhaps they faded over time? Maybe someone played shenanigans and switched them out with similar but different colors at some point? Who knows? Who cares! Color matching by eye is "good enough". -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival

20 years, 1 month

classiccmp server migrations

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I am moving the websites off the old classiccmp server and onto the new one. This will be protracted over several days as I have time. After the sites are moved, then I'll dig into the mailman setup. So, anyone who has a free website on the classiccmp server (you all know who you are), please dont make changes to your sites for a few days. If you do, not a huge deal, just let me know and I'll make another pass for your site. Jay

20 years, 1 month

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test-drb November 2004