Anyone know anything about these? The machine in question's a big floor-
standing machine, looks to be circa 1980 - grey / pale blue shell, about
the size of a PDP 11/84.
There's a possibility that the unit's a rebadged Pr1me of some kind,
although that may just be due to the fact that some Pr1me manuals were
laying nearby more than anything :-)
I'm trying to decide whether to say yay or nay based on the one photo,
so some info about Wilkes would sure be handy!
cheers
Jules
I just went to my bank (HSBC) in the UK to pay about 39 euros to an IBAN
in Germany. Bank fees were 9 pounds sterling! OUCH!!
To keep this on-topic, I was paying for a Norsk Data 10 operator control
panel. Yum, lamps and toggles. The girlfriend said I should work out a way
to drive it, and hang it on the wall :o)
alex/melt
I have a MVII with a working tk50 and a couple of MV3100s and 4000 systems,
all with tz30 drives. I am archiving my 60+ TK50 tapes to better media and
I would be glad to add the two tapes to the pile.
You go back a ways. I know Neil pretty well and have dealt with him for
about 20 years. Back then, Heffron's was a pretty neat used electronics
place... I'm in Boston a couple of days a week.
joe Heck
>From: "Michael Nadeau" <menadeau(a)comcast.net>
>
>> > Subject: Re: Sale of "free" stuff on eBay
>>
>> > The contents on your site are clearly copyrighted, so this guy is out of
>> > bounds. The first step is to ask him to remove the item from eBay. A lot
>of
>> > people don't understand copyright. They assume it applies only to
>material
>> > that is for sale. So, be polite and explain that you own the right to
>> > determine how and where the software is distributed.
>> >
>> > If he does not comply, then I would file a complaint with eBay. Failing
>> > that, a letter from a lawyer is often effective.
>>
>> To what end, this? It's a bit scorched-earth don't you think?
>
>That's the question that the copyright holder needs to answer. I'm just
>giving the options. In most cases, things are resolved in a friendly manner.
>>
Hi
As a Copyright holder, he needs to defend his copyright or anyone
who took it to court would use this case to show that it was not
being upheld. His letter might be construed as permission to publish.
His wording might have been a little different.
( I'm not a lawyer and this is just personal opinion ).
With most everything I've sent out, I'm just happy to see people using
it. If I'd expected to have any control, I'd have sold licenses.
Dwight
I'm writing a book about building an Apple I replica, going to press in
January (Syngress Publishing).
I'd like to include a fairly large section on software. Does anybody
have any programs for the Apple I which they'd be willing to see
included? These could be old, historic programs or new programs you
wrote yourself.
Anybody who contributes will get a copy of the book, of course.
Tom
--
Applefritter - Obscure, Unusual, Exceptional <www.applefritter.com>
Painted Bytes - Original iBook Artwork <www.paintedbytes.com>
At 12:04 25/11/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Dave Dunfield wrote:
>
>> As noted above, this is not directed to a particular person ... And I DO
>> have a great deal of respect for Al and others like him. And no dispute
>> that these people are preserving important documents. But, anyone who
>> takes the attitude "only to be distributed by download from my site" is
>> NOT making them available to EVERYONE - it prevents me from obtaining
>> much of the larger material (and doc scans tend to be large :-) No
>> matter how well information is preserved, it is of no benefit if it is
>> unobtainable.
>
>You are looking at it from your own point of view. I'm not going to speak
>for Al, but I'm sure he would want you to get what you need in whatever
>way is most convenient for you. Al's gripe was with the person who was
>making money off of his work and not making even a simple reference to Al
>for making his "product" possible. Al did not take the attitude that you
>are projecting. So again, I say show some respect by at least getting
>your facts straight.
... Its you who keeps attaching Al's name to this discussion.... but
UNCLE - UNCLE - I hereby APOLOGIZE to any and all involved for having used
a bad example - The intent was to show how material being excluded from a CD
had prevented me from having easy access to it, with a personal observation
that doing so can deviate from often stated goals of making the material
available to everyone (please note: I am not suggesting that that any specific
person anywhere has or has not made this statement, and if anyone has in fact
made this statement, that it may or may not have been inline with the intent
of my bad example). Clearly I should not think up examples near the end of
a rant.
Also, since we are examining this particular bad example so closely, I should
also say that it may not have been in this list, it could have been in one of
the newsgroups (perhaps comp.os.cpm) - again, my error (at the time it didn't
seem an important detail as I was not mentioning names) - so lets amend the
orignal statement to "somebody somewhere at some time and for some reason (justified
or not), requested that their material be excluded from a DVD that I subsequently
obtained, and this means that I don't have ready access to that material due to
the fact that I can not download large items from the original sites, and that I
would have had access to it if the request to exclude it had not been made."
- can we live this this?
>> Btw: I do have some of Rich's scans in my Altair section, and I *DID*
>> contact him for permission, and he *IS* listed in my credits. I even
>> gave him some scans of docs he was missing during our correspondance.
>
>And that took, what, a couple e-mails? No big deal. Since most of
>Dynacomp's CD comes from, at most, 10 sources, it wouldn't take much
>effort to at least let the people who created those sources know what he's
>up to, or in the very least put a note of thanks on the disc. No, he
>didn't do any of these, so shame on him.
The difference being that I was using individual document scans which did
not have Rich's information attached to them - presumably the material on
the CD in the original question does have his complete package, including
whatever promotional meterial he wishes to include. IMO (and it is just MO)
this is enough of an acknowlegement, as anyone who actually looks at it will
see this material. Once again, let me stress that this is MO.
>> BUT - the choice as to what to do is ultimately Rich's .. He asked our
>> opinion and I gave him mine. to quote Spock, he is free to "give it all
>> the consideration it is due".
>
>Quoting fictional characters is...scary.
Yeah, but it's such a GOOD quote (and very useful at times).
Regards,
Dave
--
dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield
dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
com Vintage computing equipment collector.
http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html
>From memory, isn't a DEC TSV05 (M7196) actually a rebadged Dilog DQ142?
The DQ132 was a slightly older design. I have the manual up for that and
it was switchable between 18/22 bits.
You're probably better off with the 142..
>From: "Doc Shipley" <doc(a)mdrconsult.com>
>
>Philip Pemberton wrote:
>>
>> I've had the same experience -
>> Them> "Would you like this computer?"
>> Me> "What is it?"
>> Them> "Um.. 386-25 with 1MB of RAM"
>> Me> "To tell the truth, I don't collect PCs, they're not that rare, or even
>> particularly useful."
>> Them> "Oh, OK. I've got a ZX81 you can have for fifty quid. Or a C64 for ?95"
>> Them> "They're going in the bin tomorrow, so let me know before then, ok?"
>
><snip>
>
>> Speaking of which, iirc someone offered me a SYM-1 a while back.. they
>> wanted somewhere in the region of $900 for it. Last I heard, it hit the
>> dumpster. Real shame - then again, their property, their choice :-/
>
> This just twists my brain.
>
> "I think this computer is worth ONE MILLLLLION DOLLARS. What, you'll
>give me 20 bucks? Instead of taking your twenty bucks or putting it up
>for no-reserve auction, I'll just throw this million-dollar computer
>away!!! MuaHaHaHaaaa!!!"
>
> Been there, did that, still bitter.
>
>
> Doc
>
Hi
Still can't imagine a SYM-1 being worth $900. From $75 to maybe
$150 someplace is more like it. It has little to be note worthy
of that I know of. The KIM is more recognized as a historic
board. I doubt if that person though it was actually worth something
that they'd have thrown it away, regardless of what they said.
Still, for one rounding out their 6502 collection, the SYM-1
is a nice item to have.
Dwight
Here's a theoretical question for the group.
What if someone compiled copyrighted data (giving credit to the owners) onto a
CD, and gave it away for FREE, but made their money by having advertising
inside the contents -- would that be considered ethical?
For the record, it's NOT anything that I plan to do with the newsletter.
Evan
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