>Yeah, I'm here in the states, New York to be specific. I would be very
>interested in getting ahold of a copy of the ROM chip to replace the
>nonfunctional chip on my machine's board, as well as copies of whatever
>software I can find. I don't know what software was available for the
>System/23, probably mostly just business software, right? What
>operating system did it run, or was it just some flavor of BASIC with
>disk commands?
Although I don't know anything about System 23's, I am pretty sure that
all my functioning ones also displayed the same codes across the top,
with many hilited as well.
I think the error may be the one it stops on, not anything prior. Of
course, I could also be totally wrong.
I would certainly double check with a System 23 expert before doing much
work in replacing the ROMS.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
There is a good selection of 16-bit MS-DOS software for networking the HP LX palmtops (XT-class, but with an 80186 processor), including TC/IP and PPP, as well as simple browsers HTML readers, and email programs (look at http://www.dasoft.com/WWW/wv3.htm, for example). Many are free.
There are a number of PCMCIA network cards that have DOS support (look for a 16-bit card; I have a 3Com 574). The selection is more restricted for the HP palmtops, though, because of its power limitations (<125mA, IIRC). The favorite card is the Accton EN2216, no longer produced by sometimes available on eBay.
If you search the HPLX mailing list archives (http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/), you will find instructions on setting up DOS networking, email, etc.
If you want to hook an MS-DOS computer to an MS network, there is always http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/dosclien.htm.
You could also hook the DOS computer to a network using a serial port and PPP (MochaSoft PPP http://www.mochasoft.dk/f_download2.html is highly recommended on the HPLX list).
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:08 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Old DOS on topic yet?
At 05:16 PM 9/25/03 -0700, you wrote:
>> I would like to get an old single floppy DOS laptop machine
>> on my local network. Anyone know how to get DOS to work with
>> a PCMCIA card (uh too new?)
>
>Well.... One question comes to mind, if it's a single floppy laptop (I
>translate that as meaning it doesn't have a HD), does it even have a PCMCIA
>card slot? If it doesn't, does it have an bidirectional parallel port
>(isn't that called EPP?). If you have the PCMCIA slot, you'll need to find
>a card that is old enough that there was DOS support for it. Hopefully you
>can get one that includes the drivers and instructions.
>
>Warning, setting such a thing up is not fun. The next question is, what do
>you plan on using for networking software? Such things for DOS weren't
>exactly common either.
>
> Zane
>
IIRC somewhere on the net is a HP 200LX palmtop that's operating as a
server. IIRC it has one or two PCMCIA slots and 2Mb of RAM with MS-DOS 5 in
ROM and NO disk drives. Don't recall what networking software it was using
but it shouldn't be to hard to find if it's still on the net.
Ah! Found it! it's at <http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/welcome.html>. It's
now been taken off-line but the details are still posted.
Joe
The HP 95LX (MS-DOS 3.3 in ROM) came out slightly after the Poqet, and it also does not have a fully PCMCIA 1.0 compatable card slot. The HP 100LX (MS-DOS 5.0 in ROM), which came out in 1993, has does have a fully compatable slot, PCMCIA Revision 2.0, IIRC.
The PCMCIA (Personal Computer Memory Card Industry Association) was formed in June of 1989.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Cisin [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:39 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Old DOS on topic yet?
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Ron Hudson wrote:
> I would like to get an old single floppy DOS laptop machine
> on my local network. Anyone know how to get DOS to work with
> a PCMCIA card (uh too new?)
The Poqet computer came out just over ten years ago. It used two memory
cards that were PCMCIA, but before the official PCMCIA standard was
developed. Does anybody know offhand exactly when the PCMCIA standard
came about?
PCMCIA = "People Can't memorize Computer Industry Acronyms"
The Toshiba 1100, and the Atari Portfolio wer out about that time, and
like the Poqet, they had versions of DOS in ROM. (The Portfolio was a
wannabe, Toshiba and Poqet were MS-DOS)
I *know* that this will interest someone here....
From the LowEndMac swap list
Jim
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Subject: [swap] Two complete Lisa 2's for sale
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:38:00 -0400
From: bktigger(a)copper.net
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I'm making some room for other items and have decided to sell the two
complete Lisa 2's I've got. Both units are stock with 2 MB of RAM
and in good comestic condition. One has a Profile 10 MB HD and the
other has a Profile 5 MB HD. They include keyboards, no mice but
they work fine with older 128/512/Plus mice.
Both units were working as of 2 years ago. I brought them out
recently and neither unit starts up. In the past this has been due
to dirty contacts on the backplane and cards and I believe that is
the case now. I simply don't have the time to go over them and clean
the contacts up.
I'll include copies of MacWorks Plus and MacWorks XL (various
versions) as well as Lisa Office, Lisa Term, Lisa Calc. If I can
find them all I'll also include files with Lisa schematics, repair
utilities and Lisa Unix. All files will come burned on a CD and you
can use a 400k floppy compatible Mac to transfer them and I'll toss
in a bunch of 400k floppies.
These are going to be heavy to ship so take that into consideration.
The cpu's will be shipped in their own boxes and the Profiles and
keyboards will be shipped in a third box. Shipping will be from
28609, count on 50 pounds approx. shipping weight for the cpu's and
35 pounds for the Profiles. I can ship by US Mail or motor freight
if you have that delivery option.
I'd like to get $500 + shipping for all of it.
Any questions email me.
Thanks,
Randy
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I just discovered one of the coolest new bands called The Polyphonic
Spree, and after exploring their multi-faceted website I came across a
cute little Easter Egg.
Go to:
http://www.thepolyphonicspree.com
Once the Flash animation finishes coloring in all the sections, click on
the bulbous red shape in the lower right hand corner of the screen. This
will pull up a photo of a Sinclair ZX Spectrum. Each button you press on
the keyboard takes you to a different photo.
Check out the music too. It's pretty awesome.
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With thanks to Don Maslin for providing the Zip archive, I have placed said ZIPfile, containing the driver software for the Compaticards, on my FTP site. You can retrieve it using standard anonymous signon in this path.
Site: ftp.bluefeathertech.com
Path: /pub/computing/hardware/legacy/DiskControllers/compaticard
Enjoy!
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Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,
Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green, aka Steve Smith)
Got the following items various thrifts in St. Louis:
HP 33C calculator with case and charger for $5
IBM guide to operations for the PC with two Persyst manuals in it,
Time-Spectrum Multi-function Board and The COMPAK Module for the IBM PC hot
to install.
A Sun mouse model COMPACT1
Various cartridges and mousepads.