test-drb June 2003

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by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I find it hard to believe that he'll come up with 1/2 mil to pay for this if he is willing to write poetry for $1. Other than the fact that the seller has a reasonable record, the sale sure seems funny. Most other auctions that sell high value items require the buyers to post a bond. It doesn't sound like this guy could post a parking ticket bond. Still, if this was truly one of the original prototypes, it is in some sense priceless. I don't know if the reason given for removing the transmitter is valid. My undestanding was that the circuit was quite simple and didn't require significant secret circuits. It would be more likely that, like our own NASA, even prototype items were often used in real missions to save cost. Dwight >From: "Frank McConnell" <fmc(a)reanimators.org> > >Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> --- Kevin Handy <kth(a)srv.net> wrote: >> > Ethan Dicks wrote: >> >> > The current bid is $500,700 (way above the buy-it-now price it >> > originally had), so your bid of 25K is far short of the goal. >> >> Holy Sh*t, Batman! It was $25K the last time I looked (4 bids or >> so). >> >> That is beyond absurd. > >The current high bidder, urban-motion, has another auction up with >this in the description: > > I am a 27 year old father with a newborn daughter and bills to > pay. I work one full time and one part time job totalling 40-60 > hours a week and I love to write in my spare time. To help > supplement our income I sell a variety of things on Ebay and look > for creative ways to honestly make a buck. So, I thought that I > could write original poetry for you and also increase your > feedback rating at the same time. By purchasing this auction, I > will write you an original poem and leave you wonderful positive > feedback. > > The poem will be completely 100% original and will be emailed to > you within 24 hours of payment. Feedback will be left as soon as I > receive payment. > > Payment is accepted through paypal only using any major credit > card. > > Thanks for looking and god bless!!!!! > >I am not making this up, you can see it yourself at: > ><http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2932949148> > >-Frank McConnell

21 years, 1 month

DEC RL02 anyone need one?

by aek＠spies.com

I already have copies of those, and IIRC, they don't have any specs on the control 'messages' passed between things, a PROM dump, or anything else that is helpful for figuring out how to send commands to the drive. --- Sounds like Tony has figured this out already to build the test box. Would you be willing to publish the info that you've figured out, Tony? ---

21 years, 1 month

Slightly OT

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > --- Kevin Handy <kth(a)srv.net> wrote: > > Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > The current bid is $500,700 (way above the buy-it-now price it > > originally had), so your bid of 25K is far short of the goal. > > Holy Sh*t, Batman! It was $25K the last time I looked (4 bids or > so). > > That is beyond absurd. The current high bidder, urban-motion, has another auction up with this in the description: I am a 27 year old father with a newborn daughter and bills to pay. I work one full time and one part time job totalling 40-60 hours a week and I love to write in my spare time. To help supplement our income I sell a variety of things on Ebay and look for creative ways to honestly make a buck. So, I thought that I could write original poetry for you and also increase your feedback rating at the same time. By purchasing this auction, I will write you an original poem and leave you wonderful positive feedback. The poem will be completely 100% original and will be emailed to you within 24 hours of payment. Feedback will be left as soon as I receive payment. Payment is accepted through paypal only using any major credit card. Thanks for looking and god bless!!!!! I am not making this up, you can see it yourself at: <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2932949148> -Frank McConnell

21 years, 1 month

AMP connector for DLV-11J

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 4, 11:43, Ethan Dicks wrote: > According to the specs I read, there's different insertion forces > for different models of pins - spring tension in the pin body itself. So there are -- three different ones in fact, though only on one series, mainly to accomodate large differences in the number of contacts per housing, as you said. Despite using the catalogue from time to time, I'd not appreciated that before. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 1 month

AMP connector for DLV-11J

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 4, 6:23, Ethan Dicks wrote: > --- Peter Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote: > > Most of the cables I've seen on these were made up using 2x5-way Berg > > connectors and individual Bergcon crimp pins. > > AFAIK, the connectors for a DLV11-J are 2x7-way... There are only nine > pins (one is missing for keying), but the extra bits help you center > the connector. 2x5 will work, if you don't miss. No, the DEC spec says 2x5. The connectors are AMP connectors; the ones on the DLV11-J itself are 87272-8 and the ones on a BC21B cable (for example) are 87133-5. You can fit a Bergcon 2x7 if you push hard, but it distorts the shroud slightly. All the cables I've ever seen, including original DEC, are 2x5 housings. If the key is in place, you can't really miss. > > You can still get them, but the pins are horrendously expensive in small > > quantities. > > No kidding. One other "problem" is that you need to stock one set of > pins for small connectors (like the DLV11-J) and another set of pins > for large connectors (like an RL8A - 40 pins) because there are different > mating forces. Yes, you can use the "wrong" pins, but they were spec'ed > different for a reason. "Weak" pins in a small connector might not > grab enough to stay in well enough, and "strong" pins in a large connector > might be too difficult to insert. Well, that's not "weak" and "strong" by design, it's for different sizes of square pins, or for round pins. Yes, I agree, don't use the wrong ones! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 1 month

AMP connector for DLV-11J

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 3, 10:56, John A. Dundas III wrote: > Stuart, > > At 11:53 PM -0700 6/2/03, Jochen Kunz wrote: > >On 2003.06.03 02:16 Stuart Johnson wrote: > > > >> Does anyone have a couple (2) of the AMP 10 pin connectors (with > >> unused pins) used with the DLV-11J 4 port serial I/O boards or > >> know where I could purchase them? > >Aren't this very common 10 pin IDC connectors? At least on my DLV-11J > >clone from Sigma Systems. I used the usual 10 pin crimp connectors for > >ribbon cable to make the cables. > > I have a -J that I'd like to make work and I don't have cables either. I > might get a chance to try Jochen's suggestion this weekend, but not before. > If you find a solution, please post. Most of the cables I've seen on these were made up using 2x5-way Berg connectors and individual Bergcon crimp pins. You can still get them, but the pins are horrendously expensive in small quantities. However, lots of other manufacturers now make similar conectors (two rows, on a 0.1" pitch (2.54mm not 2.5mm)). I've used ones made by Molex (C-Grid III 90142 series, cut off the polarising lug) and Harwin (M20-1071000). Those numbers are from a quick glance at a catalogue so check them before you buy a whole lot! Tyco/Amp make something similar, 87456-6 is a 2x5 way housing with various gold-plated or tinned crimp pins to fit. I get mine from Farnell in the UK, but I'm sure you'd be able to get something from any of the usual US suppliers. BTW, if you make up your own DLV11-J cables, don't forget the shorting link or it won't work reliably (if at all)! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 1 month

Teletype

by swtpc6800＠attbi.com

Tony Duell wrote: >That was one of the 'problems in the Teletype' that I was thinking of. I >suspsect the easiest kludge for this these days is to fiddle with the >clock at the computer interface end, and run the whole thing at 91.667 baud > >-tony 91 baud! That is way too slow. I could live with 110 baud, but not 91 baud. My Selectric terminal used a speedy 134.5 baud. Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley

21 years, 1 month

Display of first networked personal computer game returning

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

As I said... little time... and even less now that I have a full-time job *AND* getting my clinical training in the OR... Megan

21 years, 1 month

Retro printer ribbons up for grabs

by elec37＠york.ac.uk

Hi all, I'm new here - so I hope I'm not breaching any etiquette by posting this. I have a couple of new boxed ribbons for the following printer list... Binder 1550, 8510, 8510A C.Itoh 1550, 8510, 8510A, Prowriter 7500 DEC CLA 45-14602, LA50 HP 85 Leading Edge Prowriter 2-1550 8150AP NCR 6411 NEC PC 8023A/B/C Toshiba P1150, PA7251, PA7252 These are FREE (via an SAE to the UK). If you have any of the above equipment and are interested, please email me directly at elec37(a)york.ac.uk. Cheers now, Ben ~~~ Computer Recycling Project University of York, UK www.comprec.org.uk

21 years, 1 month

HP R332 touch screen

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi All, I have an old 9000 R332 (rackmount 300 series machine with built in monitor). It looks as though the display has an array of LED's and photo diodes for a touch screen setup. How do I get the touch screen to work? Do I need some additional sofware to do this? Cheers Peter _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband

21 years, 1 month

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test-drb June 2003